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In a message dated 9/9/02 6:02:50 AM, the_colbecks@... writes:

<< H. (who may be controlling and coercive, but would be very uncomfy with my
12-year-old son watching porn...) >>

But you don't HAVE a twelve year old.

You have a one year old (boy? girl?) and a five year old girl.

That's all, right? No older boys, no teens.

So while it's okay to say "If I had a twelve-year-old-son..." I don't think
it's quite honest for the conversation to have gotten this heated and this
far only to have it turn out that the one with the direst warnings HAS no
such son.

We had long discussions a few weeks ago with someone who turned out to have
no children whatsoever, not a homeschooling parent.

-=-but would be very uncomfy with my
12-year-old son watching porn...-=-

I doubt it's just personal to me that "my" indicates that one would HAVE a
12-year-old-son.

If I write about my husband, I'm talking about Keith Dodd, who's been in my
life for 25 years. Not a hypothetical, if-I-had-a-husband.

If I write about my sixteen year old son, I'm talking about Kirby Dodd
http://sandradodd.com/kirby

and so forth.

Have we been arguing about nothing with someone who doesn't actually have a
twelve year old son? Who might not have ANY son? Am I wrong to be concerned
with honesty in these discussions?

And so let's review the bit about movies coming on with sex scenes and oral
and breast-contact. First, that's not usually even hinted at in R rated
movies. But the writer said she had seen the looks on "their" (plural
children's) faces when those scenes came on. The look on the face of a one
year old was indicative of ANYTHING about the reactions of teenaged boys
not-appearing-ihat
area, because it is so easy for it to be invisible." If there is no son, one
should not say "my son.")

(Perhaps I'm thinking of the wrong poster, and looking in fifteen old posts
failed to turn up the little account of a movie being on involving
mouth-to-breast, which I seriously have never seen on TV, and the writer
mentioned seeing the looks on the children's faces.)

Probably in intros somewhere are details which would clarify some of this,
but I don't think people should need to read through archives to stay in the
conversation. People come into and leave the discussion all the time, so if
they pop in and I'm talking about my eighteen year old daughter, they MIGHT
think I HAVE an eighteen year old daughter (which I don't).

Sandra

Sandra

Mary Bianco

>From: SandraDodd@...

>
>And so let's review the bit about movies coming on with sex scenes and oral
>and breast-contact. First, that's not usually even hinted at in R rated
>movies. But the writer said she had seen the looks on "their" (plural
>children's) faces when those scenes came on. The look on the face of a
>one
>year old was indicative of ANYTHING about the reactions of teenaged boys
>not-appearing-ihat
>area, because it is so easy for it to be invisible." If there is no son,
>one
>should not say "my son.")>>


Sandra, I agree with not being able to say what one would do if they weren't
actually in that situation. None of us can really know what goes on in each
others lives no matter how much we talk about it because we are all so
different. But again I think with some people it may be human nature to
think how one would feel or react without actually being there. Of coure I'm
speculating as it wasn't me.

What was me was the post about the whole movie oral boob thing going on. It
wasn't on TV but a rented or maybe even a cable movie. My husband and I had
seen it before but just forgot about that part in it and it was the only
part like that which had anything to do with sex at all. Can't remember the
movie and it seemed to be in there just for the sake of showing some skin.
Both of my middle children were watching with us and both of them had a look
on their faces which showed a mix of confusion and shock and being
uncomfortable. Luckily it was over as fast as it started but that's the kind
of thing that I watch for when I let them watch movies that some would
consider for adults or much older children.

Mary B


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In a message dated 9/9/02 9:25:38 AM, mummyone24@... writes:

<< Both of my middle children were watching with us and both of them had a
look
on their faces which showed a mix of confusion and shock and being
uncomfortable. Luckily it was over as fast as it started >>

Okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Sandra

Fetteroll

on 9/9/02 11:24 AM, Mary Bianco at mummyone24@... wrote:

> that's the kind
> of thing that I watch for when I let them watch movies that some would
> consider for adults or much older children.

Do you know about Screen It http://www.screenit.com/ ? They describe what's
in each movie, giving a brief description of scenes that fall under the
categories of scary music, jump scenes, sex, violence, bad attitude and so
forth so you can know ahead of time whats in a movie might bother your
child.

Joyce

Mary Bianco

>From: Fetteroll <fetteroll@...>
.
>
>Do you know about Screen It http://www.screenit.com/ ?



Yeah Joyce, I've had the screen it sight for quite a long time now. I
absolutely love it. The only problem I run into with it is they don't list
some of the older movies. I just tried to look up RoboCop on it and found
nothing. But for the newer stuff, it's great.

Mary B

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