Cindy BUEHLER

Has anyone noticed that the latest issue of HEM contains advertising for this series of books. I love HEM and am really disturbed that they would accept advertising that encourages child abuse. Does this bother anyone else?

Cindy

----- Original Message -----
From: Fetteroll
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 6:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Help me find this post!

on 9/6/02 4:58 PM, Dnowens@... at Dnowens@... wrote:

> Sometime either today or yesterday, someone wrote a post discussing
> Christianity and referred to two different men's names. One was Ezzo and I
> think the other started with an F. I went back through all of today's and
> yesterday's posts and couldn't find it. I wanted to read some on these guys,
> so if anyone remembers the names, or if you wrote that post pleas refer me to
> it! Thanks.

They didn't get mentioned but Michael and Debi Pearl are (or were?) a big
influence in fundy circles with their Train Up a Child.

http://nogreaterjoy.org/

Here's a couple of things from http://nogreaterjoy.org/subject1.htm

Q: Please give me a description of the switch or rod of which you so often
speak. I wish you could send me one so I could see it.

A: The rod we speak of is a plumbing supply line that can be bought at any
hardware store or large department store. It is a slim, flexible, plastic
tubing that supplies water to sinks, and toilets. Ask for "1Ž4 inch supply
line." They cost less than one dollar. I always give myself one swat before
I swat the child to remind myself how much force to exert. It stings the
skin without bruising or damaging tissue. It¹s a real attention geter.
Michael demonstrates its use in our new Seminar videos.

Mistraining at Three Months

One of the young mothers in the church tells how she trained her
three-month-old daughter to cry and whine to be picked up and held. Upon
seeing her parents start to drift into another room, the baby cried out. The
father responded, ³Get little Suzy, she wants to be with us.² Mother picked
up Suzy, and she spread her beautiful smile in delight. Well, that¹s the
real life story of how Suzy was trained to whine. She initiated an act,
whining, to which the mother responded by picking her up. That was the first
day of a lifelong habit.

She will refine her technique, employing more threats and spreading more
misery. She will eventually fall on the floor, kicking her feet and
screaming. The mother will be embarrassed in public, frustrated and angry at
home, and will eventually have such contention and strife between her and
her demanding daughter that she will write a letter to us wanting to know
how to deal with an angry, undisciplined and unthankful teenager.


Joyce



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In a message dated 9/7/02 9:10:26 AM Central Daylight Time, bueh2k@...
writes:


> Has anyone noticed that the latest issue of HEM contains advertising for
> this series of books. I love HEM and am really disturbed that they would
> accept advertising that encourages child abuse. Does this bother anyone
> else?
>
> Cindy
>

We could start an email campaign to HEM. But, HEM isn't just for Unschoolers.
HEM is a really cool inclusive magazine. There are adds for curriculum,
schools, etc. So even though I wouldn't choose that for my family and
obviously you wouldn't either, there are some that would. OTOH, I suppose we
could equate this to smoking adds. Remember when the adds were banned from
lots of magazines because of the contribution of the adds to smoking? Well,
we could say the adds for this series contributes to child abuse. I.E. People
see the add, people buy the books, people read the books, people take the
books to heart, people smack their kids with plumbing tubes.
~Nancy


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In a message dated 9/7/02 11:51:11 AM, Dnowens@... writes:

<< I suppose we
could equate this to smoking adds. Remember when the adds were banned from
lots of magazines because of the contribution of the adds to smoking? >>

Today at a thrift store there was an old (50's) ashtray, and a matching
ceramic cigarette lighter, made to go on a coffeetable.

Holly and I were looking at it, and I told her that when I was a kid, it was
very common for school arts & crafts projects to be us all making ash trays
for our parents. She was surprised. She has only lived in a time when
smoking was wrong and bad and NOT to be encouraged.

Sandra