Christian unschoolers
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/02 3:07:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Christians believe that it is God telling them to keep their kids
home, non-Christians believe it is just their convictions or inner
voice or whatever. >>
Could you rephrase that?
SOME Christians believe that it is God telling them....I never did.
I do feel that God has put many things in my heart all along and it was up to
me to listen, to trust that inner guidance.
So in that way, sure, you could say God led me to homeschool.....led me to
gentle parenting, to running our own business, whatever you want to say.
I call it following my heart, trusting our innate goodness that he created us
with.
Not following the dictations of some controlling, dictatorship type God that
most Christians seem to have a picture of.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< Christians believe that it is God telling them to keep their kids
home, non-Christians believe it is just their convictions or inner
voice or whatever. >>
Could you rephrase that?
SOME Christians believe that it is God telling them....I never did.
I do feel that God has put many things in my heart all along and it was up to
me to listen, to trust that inner guidance.
So in that way, sure, you could say God led me to homeschool.....led me to
gentle parenting, to running our own business, whatever you want to say.
I call it following my heart, trusting our innate goodness that he created us
with.
Not following the dictations of some controlling, dictatorship type God that
most Christians seem to have a picture of.
Ren
kayb85
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., starsuncloud@c... wrote:
my heart that he wants me to do. I pray for God to lead my heart,
and trust that He will.
I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created with
innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered the human
race when Eve ate that fruit?
Sheila
> In a message dated 9/6/02 3:07:44 PM Central Daylight Time,kids
> Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
>
> << Christians believe that it is God telling them to keep their
> home, non-Christians believe it is just their convictions or innerwas up to
> voice or whatever. >>
>
> Could you rephrase that?
> SOME Christians believe that it is God telling them....I never did.
> I do feel that God has put many things in my heart all along and it
> me to listen, to trust that inner guidance.homeschool.....led me to
> So in that way, sure, you could say God led me to
> gentle parenting, to running our own business, whatever you want tosay.
> I call it following my heart, trusting our innate goodness that hecreated us
> with.God that
> Not following the dictations of some controlling, dictatorship type
> most Christians seem to have a picture of.I agree with you, I think, maybe. ;) I agree that God puts things in
>
> Ren
my heart that he wants me to do. I pray for God to lead my heart,
and trust that He will.
I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created with
innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered the human
race when Eve ate that fruit?
Sheila
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/02 7:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created with
innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered the human
race when Eve ate that fruit? >>
But see, I think that is probably a mythological story to help us understand
some picture of our origins. I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientific manner
(like evolution....not of one species into another, but evolution for sure).
I think the story of Eve is intended to keep women oppressed!
I mean we're the ones that screwed everything up right? PLEASE!
I think the potential for good or bad is in us all. But I don't look at a
baby or a child and see any bad there. I see innate goodness, I think it is
human contraptions and lack of love that cause the "bad" most of the time.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created with
innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered the human
race when Eve ate that fruit? >>
But see, I think that is probably a mythological story to help us understand
some picture of our origins. I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientific manner
(like evolution....not of one species into another, but evolution for sure).
I think the story of Eve is intended to keep women oppressed!
I mean we're the ones that screwed everything up right? PLEASE!
I think the potential for good or bad is in us all. But I don't look at a
baby or a child and see any bad there. I see innate goodness, I think it is
human contraptions and lack of love that cause the "bad" most of the time.
Ren
Beth Ali
----- Original Message -----
I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientific manner
(like evolution....not of one species into another, but evolution for sure).
This is what Baha'is believe as well. Just to point out that there are other Faiths represented. This has been a very interesting dialogue.
Beth-in Georgia
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kayb85
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., starsuncloud@c... wrote:
matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
Literal 6 day, 24 hour creationist here. :)
had to eat first, it doesn't really matter if it was a man or a woman
first. Although we do now have to put up with the pain in childbirth
now.
But the reason that humans don't always show love and compassion to
each other would be....? I believe it's because we have a sinful
nature. Our bodies now begin to die from the day we're born--
physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
Sheila
> In a message dated 9/6/02 7:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time,with
> Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
>
> << I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created
> innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered thehuman
> race when Eve ate that fruit? >>understand
>
> But see, I think that is probably a mythological story to help us
> some picture of our origins.Then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross? For that
matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
> all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientificmanner
> (like evolution....not of one species into another, but evolutionfor sure).
Literal 6 day, 24 hour creationist here. :)
> I think the story of Eve is intended to keep women oppressed!I don't think that the story of Eve is intended to do that. Someone
had to eat first, it doesn't really matter if it was a man or a woman
first. Although we do now have to put up with the pain in childbirth
now.
> I think the potential for good or bad is in us all. But I don'tlook at a
> baby or a child and see any bad there. I see innate goodness, Ithink it is
> human contraptions and lack of love that cause the "bad" most ofthe time.
But the reason that humans don't always show love and compassion to
each other would be....? I believe it's because we have a sinful
nature. Our bodies now begin to die from the day we're born--
physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
Sheila
Joseph Fuerst
>manner
> ----- Original Message -----
> I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
> all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientific
OK, I'm bleary-eyed....but when I first read this, I thought it said "I
believe in an all powerful God tht SPANKED all of creation, but I think he
may have done this in a scientific manner" Guess I'm getting my
threads crossed!
Shyrley
On 7 Sep 02, at 3:52, kayb85 wrote:
for creationists and athiests to argue endlessly without irritating
everyone else. We're having a great time.
If you can't find it on Yahoo groups ask me and I'll give you the
direct link.
people from Neanderthals upwards.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., starsuncloud@c... wrote:Well, for non-christians, no point at all even if it did happen.
> > In a message dated 9/6/02 7:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
> >
> > << I'm not sure about the innate goodness thing. We were created
> with
> > innate goodness, but what about the sin nature that entered the
> human
> > race when Eve ate that fruit? >>
> >
> > But see, I think that is probably a mythological story to help us
> understand
> > some picture of our origins.
>
> Then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross? For that
> matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
>You should come join us on VA-Eclectic-REL. It's our very own list
>
> I do believe in an all powerful God that sparked
> > all of creation, but I think he may have done this in a scientific
> manner
> > (like evolution....not of one species into another, but evolution
> for sure).
>
> Literal 6 day, 24 hour creationist here. :)
for creationists and athiests to argue endlessly without irritating
everyone else. We're having a great time.
If you can't find it on Yahoo groups ask me and I'll give you the
direct link.
>As they always have done. Otherwise we'd be up to our necks in
>
> > I think the potential for good or bad is in us all. But I don't
> look at a
> > baby or a child and see any bad there. I see innate goodness, I
> think it is
> > human contraptions and lack of love that cause the "bad" most of
> the time.
>
> But the reason that humans don't always show love and compassion to
> each other would be....? I believe it's because we have a sinful
> nature. Our bodies now begin to die from the day we're born--
> physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
people from Neanderthals upwards.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/02 11:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross? For that
matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
spirituality did.
Law wasn't important, matters of the heart were hugely important.
To turn the other cheek, to love other people as much as ourselves etc....
If you don't understand that Jesus whole message was love and how God is
love, you've missed the whole point of his coming.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< Then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross? For that
matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
>>Because God wanted us to know he is love....that religion didn't matter,
spirituality did.
Law wasn't important, matters of the heart were hugely important.
To turn the other cheek, to love other people as much as ourselves etc....
If you don't understand that Jesus whole message was love and how God is
love, you've missed the whole point of his coming.
Ren
Linda Greene
Not to get too controversial here, but the story of a son of God being born to a virgin mother and being sacraficed for the people goes back way before Christianity. Like all religions, Christianity stole this one and made it fit.
Linda
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: starsuncloud@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 10:49 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Christian unschoolers
In a message dated 9/6/02 11:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross? For that
matter, what was the point of Jesus coming at all?
>>
Because God wanted us to know he is love....that religion didn't matter,
spirituality did.
Law wasn't important, matters of the heart were hugely important.
To turn the other cheek, to love other people as much as ourselves etc....
If you don't understand that Jesus whole message was love and how God is
love, you've missed the whole point of his coming.
Ren
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Shyrley
On 7 Sep 02, at 12:54, Linda Greene wrote:
crucified, rose again, said they were the only true way. Both will be
back at some point.
It's a very common theme. I think a full count of saviours that fit this
picture is 35. Mind you, there's a lot of people so I guess they got
their work cut out.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> Not to get too controversial here, but the story of a son of God beingLook up Mithras and Tammuz. Born to a virgin, star, 3 wise men,
> born to a virgin mother and being sacraficed for the people goes back
> way before Christianity. Like all religions, Christianity stole this
> one and made it fit.
>
> Linda
>
>
crucified, rose again, said they were the only true way. Both will be
back at some point.
It's a very common theme. I think a full count of saviours that fit this
picture is 35. Mind you, there's a lot of people so I guess they got
their work cut out.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/26/02 9:47:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I also haven't seen Sandra say you can't be a Christian and unschool. I
also
happen to think she wouldn't say such, as probably some of her friends here
are Christians who unschool. >>
Just for the record. I consider Sandra a friend. She has known from day one
(just when was that?) that I call myself a Christian. I've never heard her
tell me anything negative about MY beliefs (about the world
religion/homeschool fundy thing, yes) or about Jesus.
And her clear, concise, very uncompromising beliefs in unschooling have
changed my and my children's lives forever.
I love that she'll tell me straight forward what she thinks, not what she
thinks I want to hear.
It's a rare quality in this world, and one I value greatly.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< I also haven't seen Sandra say you can't be a Christian and unschool. I
also
happen to think she wouldn't say such, as probably some of her friends here
are Christians who unschool. >>
Just for the record. I consider Sandra a friend. She has known from day one
(just when was that?) that I call myself a Christian. I've never heard her
tell me anything negative about MY beliefs (about the world
religion/homeschool fundy thing, yes) or about Jesus.
And her clear, concise, very uncompromising beliefs in unschooling have
changed my and my children's lives forever.
I love that she'll tell me straight forward what she thinks, not what she
thinks I want to hear.
It's a rare quality in this world, and one I value greatly.
Ren
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/16/03 8:23:39 AM, denizmartinez@... writes:
<< I've known many "Christian unschoolers" who limit and censor their
child's activities based upon Scripture, essentially forcing their
child into compliance with the parents' chosen faith and hampering
the child's freedom to strike his own spiritual path. That was really
more of the type of hypocrisy that I was originally referring to. >>
I know atheist (or new age this'or'that) unschoolers who do the same kinds of
things, but what they're "spiritual path" objects to is things like Disney
logos, plastic toys, war play, rap music, hanging out with schooled kids,
watching Jerry Springer, and eating at McDonald's.
It still limits their version of "the whole world" to the world the parents
WISH existed.
<<To force him/her to learn such answers before he can even ask
the questions is to forever prevent him from ever having any
curiosity regarding the subject. >>
You can't force anyone to learn answers, though.
If we're living "learning" instead of teaching, how could a movie that had
George Washington in it, or president cards the kids can put in order by the
hair and clothes, or songs or jokes about George Washington forever prevent
ANYTHING?
<<To associate knowledge with
coercion in your child's mind is one of the worst things you can do
to him. Coercion prevents and perverts the child's
emotional/intellectual growth. >>
Yeah.
But this isn't a list where anyone's promoting coercion.
<<He uses George Washington in this example, but you can just as
easilty substitute Jesus or Allah or Buddha or whatver you'd like
instead, it's the same concept in my eyes. >>
Can you substitute kumquats or Shakespeare?
Because my kids never asked about kumquats on their own. No human could
unless they lived where they grew or were tall enough to see the bitty weird
imported fruits and vegetables up at the top of the racks.
Are you more afraid of a kid's early exposure to religious or
political/mythological figures than you are of their early exposure to Bert and Ernie?
I'm not.
Sandra
Sandra
<< I've known many "Christian unschoolers" who limit and censor their
child's activities based upon Scripture, essentially forcing their
child into compliance with the parents' chosen faith and hampering
the child's freedom to strike his own spiritual path. That was really
more of the type of hypocrisy that I was originally referring to. >>
I know atheist (or new age this'or'that) unschoolers who do the same kinds of
things, but what they're "spiritual path" objects to is things like Disney
logos, plastic toys, war play, rap music, hanging out with schooled kids,
watching Jerry Springer, and eating at McDonald's.
It still limits their version of "the whole world" to the world the parents
WISH existed.
<<To force him/her to learn such answers before he can even ask
the questions is to forever prevent him from ever having any
curiosity regarding the subject. >>
You can't force anyone to learn answers, though.
If we're living "learning" instead of teaching, how could a movie that had
George Washington in it, or president cards the kids can put in order by the
hair and clothes, or songs or jokes about George Washington forever prevent
ANYTHING?
<<To associate knowledge with
coercion in your child's mind is one of the worst things you can do
to him. Coercion prevents and perverts the child's
emotional/intellectual growth. >>
Yeah.
But this isn't a list where anyone's promoting coercion.
<<He uses George Washington in this example, but you can just as
easilty substitute Jesus or Allah or Buddha or whatver you'd like
instead, it's the same concept in my eyes. >>
Can you substitute kumquats or Shakespeare?
Because my kids never asked about kumquats on their own. No human could
unless they lived where they grew or were tall enough to see the bitty weird
imported fruits and vegetables up at the top of the racks.
Are you more afraid of a kid's early exposure to religious or
political/mythological figures than you are of their early exposure to Bert and Ernie?
I'm not.
Sandra
Sandra
Deniz Martinez
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
letting my child play with a Noah's Ark toy that he has taken a fancy
to is no different than a Christian parent not letting their child
play with a dreidel or whatever. To my son, it's just a toy boat with
a bunch of animals on it, LOL.
George Washington example, but you would have to ask him to be sure.
I think what he had in mind was the idea of young children being
indoctrinated (oops, there's that word again) in elementary school
about all things patriotic. That goes back to the debate over whether
something the having a child recite and memorize the Pledge of
Allegience before he even knows what the words truly mean is coercive.
trying to discuss what is and isn't coercion though...just another
one of those trying-to-define-the-fuzzy-lines sort of discussion,
that's all.
exposing your children to different kinds of produce can produce ill
effects, so I'll skip that example and go right on to Shakespeare. ;)
TELLING your kids about Shakespeare, and READING Shakespeare to your
kids, that's cool--but if you take the extra step of repeatedly and
matter-of-factly telling your child "Shakespeare was the greatest
writer of all time", isn't that then crossing the line, because you
are presenting your opinion as fact to your child?
(Completely off-topic sidenote here since I sort of missed responding
to the Shakespeare thread--if you guys like _Romeo and Juliet_, why
not try reading _Layla and Majnun_ by Nizami...the Persians had a
better version of the whole "star-crossed lovers" thing down on paper
centuries before Shakespeare did, LOL)
kid watch Sesame Street all day is that the kid will develop an
effection for furry monsters and will learn bad grammar from Cookie
Monster, LOL. A kid whose parents have Jerry Falwell and Billy
Graham playing on the TV all day...well yeah, to me that has the
potential for more sinister results. That's just my personal bias
though.
Deniz
> I know atheist (or new age this'or'that) unschoolers who do theI know these atheists too, and I won't defend them either. Not
> same kinds of things, but what they're "spiritual path" objects to
> is things like Disney logos, plastic toys, war play, rap music,
> hanging out with schooled kids, watching Jerry Springer, and eating
> at McDonald's.
>
> It still limits their version of "the whole world" to the world the
> parents WISH existed.
letting my child play with a Noah's Ark toy that he has taken a fancy
to is no different than a Christian parent not letting their child
play with a dreidel or whatever. To my son, it's just a toy boat with
a bunch of animals on it, LOL.
> You can't force anyone to learn answers, though.I don't think that that is the context in which Henry was using the
> If we're living "learning" instead of teaching, how could a movie
> that had George Washington in it, or president cards the kids can
> put in order by the hair and clothes, or songs or jokes about
> George Washington forever prevent ANYTHING?
George Washington example, but you would have to ask him to be sure.
I think what he had in mind was the idea of young children being
indoctrinated (oops, there's that word again) in elementary school
about all things patriotic. That goes back to the debate over whether
something the having a child recite and memorize the Pledge of
Allegience before he even knows what the words truly mean is coercive.
> Yeah.Yes Sandra, no one is actively promoting coercion. I thought we were
>
> But this isn't a list where anyone's promoting coercion.
trying to discuss what is and isn't coercion though...just another
one of those trying-to-define-the-fuzzy-lines sort of discussion,
that's all.
> Can you substitute kumquats or Shakespeare?Okay, I don't think anybody here is going to debate about whether
>
> Because my kids never asked about kumquats on their own. No human
> could unless they lived where they grew or were tall enough to see
> the bitty weird imported fruits and vegetables up at the top of the
> racks.
exposing your children to different kinds of produce can produce ill
effects, so I'll skip that example and go right on to Shakespeare. ;)
TELLING your kids about Shakespeare, and READING Shakespeare to your
kids, that's cool--but if you take the extra step of repeatedly and
matter-of-factly telling your child "Shakespeare was the greatest
writer of all time", isn't that then crossing the line, because you
are presenting your opinion as fact to your child?
(Completely off-topic sidenote here since I sort of missed responding
to the Shakespeare thread--if you guys like _Romeo and Juliet_, why
not try reading _Layla and Majnun_ by Nizami...the Persians had a
better version of the whole "star-crossed lovers" thing down on paper
centuries before Shakespeare did, LOL)
> Are you more afraid of a kid's early exposure to religious orto Bert and Ernie?
> political/mythological figures than you are of their early exposure
>Well, in my eyes, the worst that can happen when a parent lets her
> I'm not.
kid watch Sesame Street all day is that the kid will develop an
effection for furry monsters and will learn bad grammar from Cookie
Monster, LOL. A kid whose parents have Jerry Falwell and Billy
Graham playing on the TV all day...well yeah, to me that has the
potential for more sinister results. That's just my personal bias
though.
Deniz
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/16/03 8:37:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
denizmartinez@... writes:
something I thought was funny. When JP was about 4, he was in a "Children's
Morning Out" preschool, 2 morning a week. One day, we were at the library,
and all of the sudden, he got these wide eyes and excited tone.. He pointed
up to the American Flag displayed on the library wall, and he said "Moma, moma,
we have that in preschool! Every morning we stand up and talk to it"
LOL.. it struck me so funny.. I was not aware that they did the Pledge of
Allegiance every morning ( although I was not surprised). But the thing was, he
has NO clue at all what he was saying or why he was saying it as he "talked to
the flag"....
Teresa
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denizmartinez@... writes:
> That goes back to the debate over whetherThis is not in the "debate" category.. lol.. but your comment reminded me of
> something the having a child recite and memorize the Pledge of
> Allegience before he even knows what the words truly mean is coercive
something I thought was funny. When JP was about 4, he was in a "Children's
Morning Out" preschool, 2 morning a week. One day, we were at the library,
and all of the sudden, he got these wide eyes and excited tone.. He pointed
up to the American Flag displayed on the library wall, and he said "Moma, moma,
we have that in preschool! Every morning we stand up and talk to it"
LOL.. it struck me so funny.. I was not aware that they did the Pledge of
Allegiance every morning ( although I was not surprised). But the thing was, he
has NO clue at all what he was saying or why he was saying it as he "talked to
the flag"....
Teresa
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[email protected]
In a message dated 8/16/03 6:37:45 PM, denizmartinez@... writes:
<< Not
letting my child play with a Noah's Ark toy that he has taken a fancy
to is no different than a Christian parent not letting their child
play with a dreidel or whatever. To my son, it's just a toy boat with
a bunch of animals on it, LOL. >>
You really wouldn't tell him the story if he asked?
It's just a story. (LOL)
<<I don't think that that is the context in which Henry was using the
George Washington example, but you would have to ask him to be sure. >>
It doesn't matter what Henry asked.
We're talking about unschooling, and if you intend to use his words to defend
the idea that you won't bring up any creation stories until kids ask, then
"bringing something up" would include telling a kid who you (or anyone else)
think was the first person on the planet, OR who George Washington was. Any kid
who's ever had a one dollar bill or a quarter is likely to ask "Who's that?"
(Sorry, Canadians and Brits, Kiwis and Aussies.)
<<I think what he had in mind was the idea of young children being
indoctrinated (oops, there's that word again) in elementary school
about all things patriotic.>>
Right. Maybe so. And you keep talking about school a lot, but it would be
more helpful to the list if you would talk about your own children and your
unschooling.
I don't think I'm the first to have used the word "indoctrinated" in this
conversation, either, but I'm not going to go back and read the archives.
Sandra
<< Not
letting my child play with a Noah's Ark toy that he has taken a fancy
to is no different than a Christian parent not letting their child
play with a dreidel or whatever. To my son, it's just a toy boat with
a bunch of animals on it, LOL. >>
You really wouldn't tell him the story if he asked?
It's just a story. (LOL)
<<I don't think that that is the context in which Henry was using the
George Washington example, but you would have to ask him to be sure. >>
It doesn't matter what Henry asked.
We're talking about unschooling, and if you intend to use his words to defend
the idea that you won't bring up any creation stories until kids ask, then
"bringing something up" would include telling a kid who you (or anyone else)
think was the first person on the planet, OR who George Washington was. Any kid
who's ever had a one dollar bill or a quarter is likely to ask "Who's that?"
(Sorry, Canadians and Brits, Kiwis and Aussies.)
<<I think what he had in mind was the idea of young children being
indoctrinated (oops, there's that word again) in elementary school
about all things patriotic.>>
Right. Maybe so. And you keep talking about school a lot, but it would be
more helpful to the list if you would talk about your own children and your
unschooling.
I don't think I'm the first to have used the word "indoctrinated" in this
conversation, either, but I'm not going to go back and read the archives.
Sandra
chriswick89
I haven't posted yet other than my intro I belive, but I just had to
say that I too am a Christian unschooler (Catholic, in fact). I do
not get any flack at all from any community including people of my
faith.
I do believe that everyones beliefs are such a very personal thing
and I would never try to impose my views on anyone and I expect the
same from others as well.
I think that is one of the great things about unschooling. Just
observing the world around us and realizing that there are as many
different ways of doing things as there are people.
Chris
say that I too am a Christian unschooler (Catholic, in fact). I do
not get any flack at all from any community including people of my
faith.
I do believe that everyones beliefs are such a very personal thing
and I would never try to impose my views on anyone and I expect the
same from others as well.
I think that is one of the great things about unschooling. Just
observing the world around us and realizing that there are as many
different ways of doing things as there are people.
Chris
Tracey Inman
I too do not post often but wanted to say I am also a Christian. In fact my
husband and I are ministers. I realize often how very radical we are
compared to other Christian homeschoolers. I don't know any unschoolers in
our area. I think that the movement to unschool was so natural to our
family because we have always been careful to respect others and where they
are in life with their beliefs and so on. We help our children do the same.
We think outside of the box on a regular basis. We allow our children to
make their own decisions. We encourage them not to do something just
because they think they have to. Heck, on Election Day our local poll had
a separate place for kids to vote. The girls and I have had many discussions
on the election process and about the candidate's views on particular
issues. Well, my youngest daughter was all in to wanting to vote. But my
oldest daughter (12) didn't want any part of it. I told her it was
certainly her decision that she did not have too if she didn't want to. The
only question I asked was "why?" She couldn't give me an answer. But that
is o.k. My mother about had a cow when she heard my dd didn't vote. I
quickly told her not to say one word to her about it. I explained why she
had every right not to and reminded her we live in the "land of the free".
My dh and I don't say much about how we homeschool so we don't get any flack
from our faith community. We took our children out of public school because
of the lack of education that goes on there, not for any sort of religious
beliefs.
~Tracey I.
"Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition from Mediocre
Minds. "~ Albert Einstein
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husband and I are ministers. I realize often how very radical we are
compared to other Christian homeschoolers. I don't know any unschoolers in
our area. I think that the movement to unschool was so natural to our
family because we have always been careful to respect others and where they
are in life with their beliefs and so on. We help our children do the same.
We think outside of the box on a regular basis. We allow our children to
make their own decisions. We encourage them not to do something just
because they think they have to. Heck, on Election Day our local poll had
a separate place for kids to vote. The girls and I have had many discussions
on the election process and about the candidate's views on particular
issues. Well, my youngest daughter was all in to wanting to vote. But my
oldest daughter (12) didn't want any part of it. I told her it was
certainly her decision that she did not have too if she didn't want to. The
only question I asked was "why?" She couldn't give me an answer. But that
is o.k. My mother about had a cow when she heard my dd didn't vote. I
quickly told her not to say one word to her about it. I explained why she
had every right not to and reminded her we live in the "land of the free".
My dh and I don't say much about how we homeschool so we don't get any flack
from our faith community. We took our children out of public school because
of the lack of education that goes on there, not for any sort of religious
beliefs.
~Tracey I.
"Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition from Mediocre
Minds. "~ Albert Einstein
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