New person
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Good morning! I sent a small intro within another text (stupid thing to do)
so I thought I'd re-introduce myself.
My name is Beth Allen. I'm a homeschooler now, unschooling wanna be living
with my husband, daughter and 10 year old son in Shawnee, Kansas.
I've been homeschooling my son since first grade.
I was happy to find this board through Home Education magazine!
Beth
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so I thought I'd re-introduce myself.
My name is Beth Allen. I'm a homeschooler now, unschooling wanna be living
with my husband, daughter and 10 year old son in Shawnee, Kansas.
I've been homeschooling my son since first grade.
I was happy to find this board through Home Education magazine!
Beth
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Cindy BUEHLER
Hi Beth,
Have you been to a LEARN meeting? LEARN is the Kansas City's area's secular homeschool group. We meet the third Monday of each month at All Souls Unitarian Church, 4500 Warwick, Kansas City. The group is very open and has a large number of unschoolers. I would love to see you there! Email me off-list for more info.
Welcome!
Cindy
Have you been to a LEARN meeting? LEARN is the Kansas City's area's secular homeschool group. We meet the third Monday of each month at All Souls Unitarian Church, 4500 Warwick, Kansas City. The group is very open and has a large number of unschoolers. I would love to see you there! Email me off-list for more info.
Welcome!
Cindy
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Good morning! I sent a small intro within another text (stupid thing to do)
so I thought I'd re-introduce myself.
My name is Beth Allen. I'm a homeschooler now, unschooling wanna be living
with my husband, daughter and 10 year old son in Shawnee, Kansas.
I've been homeschooling my son since first grade.
I was happy to find this board through Home Education magazine!
Beth
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Kelli Traaseth
Sorry everyone, but I have to bring up games again. I am taking a big step - I am
going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my son. It is one of
his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet because I used to always
say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would really appreciate any
help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are the best to
buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not spending alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a few
months.
My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am also illiterate on
that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
If any of you would just by one big system and one small system which ones would
you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like, trying new things.
Kelli
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going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my son. It is one of
his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet because I used to always
say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would really appreciate any
help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are the best to
buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not spending alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a few
months.
My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am also illiterate on
that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
If any of you would just by one big system and one small system which ones would
you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like, trying new things.
Kelli
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Fetteroll
on 9/5/02 3:31 AM, Kelli Traaseth at kellitraas@... wrote:
powerful is that?
But, as some input from personal experience, Nintendo tends to lean towards
games for the non-Mature audience. That does't mean childish. It means games
without graphic violence and sexuality. They do have a fair number of titles
for mature players (like Resident Evil) now that the GameCube came out but
their foundation is the Pokemon/Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Sonic type games.
(And those are exclusive to the Nintendo.)
The Playstation has a "stable" of characters too (Spyro, Digimon are the
ones my daughter came up with) but they aren't as overwhelmingly popular.
But they do have some very popular games like Tomb Raider and Final Fantasy
that aren't availble on Nintendo but, those are Teen titles.) She said the
one advantage of the Playstation 2 is that it plays the Playstation 1 games
too. The Nintendo consoles never play the previous console version games.
As for handhelds, my daughter doesn't see a huge difference between the
GameBoy Color and the GameBoy Advance (GBA) but says most new games will
only be for the GBA and the GBA does play all the games made for the older
handhelds too. She knows the GBA can hook up to the GameCube (with a cable)
but she's not sure if the GameBoy Color will hook up.
Joyce
> I am taking a big step - I am going to go out and get some sort ofWhy not have *him* tell you :-) He'll do the research and love doing it. How
> video/electronic game for my son.
powerful is that?
But, as some input from personal experience, Nintendo tends to lean towards
games for the non-Mature audience. That does't mean childish. It means games
without graphic violence and sexuality. They do have a fair number of titles
for mature players (like Resident Evil) now that the GameCube came out but
their foundation is the Pokemon/Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Sonic type games.
(And those are exclusive to the Nintendo.)
The Playstation has a "stable" of characters too (Spyro, Digimon are the
ones my daughter came up with) but they aren't as overwhelmingly popular.
But they do have some very popular games like Tomb Raider and Final Fantasy
that aren't availble on Nintendo but, those are Teen titles.) She said the
one advantage of the Playstation 2 is that it plays the Playstation 1 games
too. The Nintendo consoles never play the previous console version games.
As for handhelds, my daughter doesn't see a huge difference between the
GameBoy Color and the GameBoy Advance (GBA) but says most new games will
only be for the GBA and the GBA does play all the games made for the older
handhelds too. She knows the GBA can hook up to the GameCube (with a cable)
but she's not sure if the GameBoy Color will hook up.
Joyce
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In a message dated 9/5/02 3:12:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, bueh2k@... writes:
beth
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> Welcome!Thanks Cindy! It's nice to be here!
> Cindy
>
beth
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inmdcrew
Kelli,
I don't know much about these systems either. But my ds (10 yrs.)
has Sega, Nintendo 64 and a Playstation. He seems to like the
Playstation best. He likes the choice of games there is for him to
play. The difference between a PS and a PS2 is that it has better
graphics, plays both PS2 and PS games and has a mod chip that you can
plug into the back to play copied games. (according to him--he's
talking faster than I can write).
A mod chip is a computer chip that lets you play games that you have
burned or copied over from another cd source. For example, we bring
home library games and burn the game onto a new CD if we like it and
want to keep it. (You kinda got to get around the ethic part of it:
i.e. is that stealing?)
A Playstation has that capability if you solder the chip on. A PS2
has that capability by plugging the chip in.
Nintendo 64 is worse than a playstation (according to my son).
We have a old Sega system.
The new ones are good I guess. He got one for Christmas but
something was wrong and we took it back. And we haven't replaced it.
Hope this is some help.
You can always email us off line if your son wants to talk to mine.
Tina
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@y...>
wrote:
owner, Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@h...).
I don't know much about these systems either. But my ds (10 yrs.)
has Sega, Nintendo 64 and a Playstation. He seems to like the
Playstation best. He likes the choice of games there is for him to
play. The difference between a PS and a PS2 is that it has better
graphics, plays both PS2 and PS games and has a mod chip that you can
plug into the back to play copied games. (according to him--he's
talking faster than I can write).
A mod chip is a computer chip that lets you play games that you have
burned or copied over from another cd source. For example, we bring
home library games and burn the game onto a new CD if we like it and
want to keep it. (You kinda got to get around the ethic part of it:
i.e. is that stealing?)
A Playstation has that capability if you solder the chip on. A PS2
has that capability by plugging the chip in.
Nintendo 64 is worse than a playstation (according to my son).
We have a old Sega system.
The new ones are good I guess. He got one for Christmas but
something was wrong and we took it back. And we haven't replaced it.
Hope this is some help.
You can always email us off line if your son wants to talk to mine.
Tina
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@y...>
wrote:
>big step - I am
> Sorry everyone, but I have to bring up games again. I am taking a
>son. It is one of
> going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my
>because I used to always
> his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet
>really appreciate any
> say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would
>the best to
> help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are
>Playstation. Does
> buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or
>Report on
> anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer
>not spending alot
> games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm
>broken in a few
> of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even
>also illiterate on
> months.
>
> My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am
>which ones would
> that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
>
> If any of you would just by one big system and one small system
>trying new things.
> you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
>
> Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
>
> And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like,
>~~~~
> Kelli
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Thanks Joyce and Tina
I do need to get more of his input, now I'm just trying to figure out if I just go out and buy it or if I wait until Christmas to give it to him. That's what my parents would have done, waited until Christmas, but don't know if that's what I want to do!
Kelli
inmdcrew wrote:Kelli,
I don't know much about these systems either. But my ds (10 yrs.)
has Sega, Nintendo 64 and a Playstation. He seems to like the
Playstation best. He likes the choice of games there is for him to
play. The difference between a PS and a PS2 is that it has better
graphics, plays both PS2 and PS games and has a mod chip that you can
plug into the back to play copied games. (according to him--he's
talking faster than I can write).
A mod chip is a computer chip that lets you play games that you have
burned or copied over from another cd source. For example, we bring
home library games and burn the game onto a new CD if we like it and
want to keep it. (You kinda got to get around the ethic part of it:
i.e. is that stealing?)
A Playstation has that capability if you solder the chip on. A PS2
has that capability by plugging the chip in.
Nintendo 64 is worse than a playstation (according to my son).
We have a old Sega system.
The new ones are good I guess. He got one for Christmas but
something was wrong and we took it back. And we haven't replaced it.
Hope this is some help.
You can always email us off line if your son wants to talk to mine.
Tina
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wrote:
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I do need to get more of his input, now I'm just trying to figure out if I just go out and buy it or if I wait until Christmas to give it to him. That's what my parents would have done, waited until Christmas, but don't know if that's what I want to do!
Kelli
inmdcrew wrote:Kelli,
I don't know much about these systems either. But my ds (10 yrs.)
has Sega, Nintendo 64 and a Playstation. He seems to like the
Playstation best. He likes the choice of games there is for him to
play. The difference between a PS and a PS2 is that it has better
graphics, plays both PS2 and PS games and has a mod chip that you can
plug into the back to play copied games. (according to him--he's
talking faster than I can write).
A mod chip is a computer chip that lets you play games that you have
burned or copied over from another cd source. For example, we bring
home library games and burn the game onto a new CD if we like it and
want to keep it. (You kinda got to get around the ethic part of it:
i.e. is that stealing?)
A Playstation has that capability if you solder the chip on. A PS2
has that capability by plugging the chip in.
Nintendo 64 is worse than a playstation (according to my son).
We have a old Sega system.
The new ones are good I guess. He got one for Christmas but
something was wrong and we took it back. And we haven't replaced it.
Hope this is some help.
You can always email us off line if your son wants to talk to mine.
Tina
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@y...>
wrote:
>big step - I am
> Sorry everyone, but I have to bring up games again. I am taking a
>son. It is one of
> going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my
>because I used to always
> his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet
>really appreciate any
> say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would
>the best to
> help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are
>Playstation. Does
> buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or
>Report on
> anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer
>not spending alot
> games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm
>broken in a few
> of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even
>also illiterate on
> months.
>
> My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am
>which ones would
> that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
>
> If any of you would just by one big system and one small system
>trying new things.
> you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
>
> Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
>
> And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like,
>~~~~
> Kelli
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KT
>Go spend a lot of time in a used games store (Game Exchange is one
>
>Does
>
> anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
>
>games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not spending alot
>
>of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a few
>
>months.
>
company here). You can try out virtually any game and any system. And
you can buy systems and games used, for less money. Talk to the
employees there. My son will say that x is better because you can get
these kinds of games, or there's more variety, or whatever. But if
you'd try
My older sons have moved on to mostly computer games now. So, we don't
have a PS II or an X-Box, but we have all the ones from Atari til those.
The old standbys are what get played the most. Mario. On Super
Nintendo or N-64. Donkey Kong on N-64. If your son likes sports, then
use those games as your guide. Some of those sports games are
unbelievably real these days. Of course, those realistic games come on
the newer more expensive systems. My little one still has fun with
baseball on Super Nintendo, though.
And you can rent games at video stores, too.
Tuck
KT
>I guess what I was going to say is "But if you try them all out and look
>
>But if you'd try
>
at the game selection, you can figure out what you like." Or something
like that??
?
Tuck
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In a message dated 9/5/02 1:32:22 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not spending
alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a few
months. >>
I think a Nintendo 64 (N64) would be a good deal, if you can get one new.
The joystick on the controller is the only fragile thing. Just don't throw
them down or step on them.
If you get a system back from the newest, you can often find good games, used.
My boys are asleep, or I'd get one to recite recommendations, but I remember
they being excited about Zelda (Ocarina of Time?), Banjo Kazooie, Mario Kart
and Kirby's Dreamland (Maybe...).
All my kids have played a fair amount of Gameboy. Gameboy Advance plays the
old games and the color-gameboy games, and the newer Gameboy Advance games
all. And those can be purchased used too.
Playstation uses CDs which makes the media more fragile than the plastic
cartridges Nintendos use.
I don't remember whether N64 needs memory cards. IF you get a system needing
a memory card, get one right away. For Game Cube and PSII, you can't play
the games without one.
Before you bring the game home, see if you need any special cords to hook it
up. If you know a gaming-older-boy, maybe borrow him as a consultant. Get
him to look at your TV's input situation and see if you'll need something
extra or not, and take him with you to the store (or online with you <g>) to
ask and answer questions.
For a major system, count on another hundred dollars over the system price
for memory card, extra controller and whatever else. (unless you're buying
used, then just the card and maybe the cord).
Sandra
Sandra
Sandra
<< He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not spending
alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a few
months. >>
I think a Nintendo 64 (N64) would be a good deal, if you can get one new.
The joystick on the controller is the only fragile thing. Just don't throw
them down or step on them.
If you get a system back from the newest, you can often find good games, used.
My boys are asleep, or I'd get one to recite recommendations, but I remember
they being excited about Zelda (Ocarina of Time?), Banjo Kazooie, Mario Kart
and Kirby's Dreamland (Maybe...).
All my kids have played a fair amount of Gameboy. Gameboy Advance plays the
old games and the color-gameboy games, and the newer Gameboy Advance games
all. And those can be purchased used too.
Playstation uses CDs which makes the media more fragile than the plastic
cartridges Nintendos use.
I don't remember whether N64 needs memory cards. IF you get a system needing
a memory card, get one right away. For Game Cube and PSII, you can't play
the games without one.
Before you bring the game home, see if you need any special cords to hook it
up. If you know a gaming-older-boy, maybe borrow him as a consultant. Get
him to look at your TV's input situation and see if you'll need something
extra or not, and take him with you to the store (or online with you <g>) to
ask and answer questions.
For a major system, count on another hundred dollars over the system price
for memory card, extra controller and whatever else. (unless you're buying
used, then just the card and maybe the cord).
Sandra
Sandra
Sandra
zebrafish2002
Hi,
My son is a little older now, 12, and we have most of the older
systems (not the new Playstation II or X-box or Game Cube).
I would say that in general they are all good systems. If you are
going for the "newest" my son would probably say go with Playstation
or X-box (whichever caries the most games your son would like). My
son doesn't care much for the Nintendo Gamecube at all.
As for hand-held systems, Gameboy Advance is the best.
I would also suggest you make a list of what types of games he would
like to play, see who makes the most of those games and appropriate
for his age now and within the next couple of years.
You can also go to one of those used game stores and see what you
like there. They have great deals, especially on some of the older
systems like Nintendo 64 and regular Playstation.
Let your son help decide what he would like. Contrary to what many
people believe, video games are not all bad. They teach not only
hand/eye coordination, but logic, strategy, role playing, etc. ---
depends on what games you buy. I don't allow any games that are
really violent. Of course, my son mostly likes car and racing games,
crashes, etc.
Good Luck in your choice.
- Zandra
My son is a little older now, 12, and we have most of the older
systems (not the new Playstation II or X-box or Game Cube).
I would say that in general they are all good systems. If you are
going for the "newest" my son would probably say go with Playstation
or X-box (whichever caries the most games your son would like). My
son doesn't care much for the Nintendo Gamecube at all.
As for hand-held systems, Gameboy Advance is the best.
I would also suggest you make a list of what types of games he would
like to play, see who makes the most of those games and appropriate
for his age now and within the next couple of years.
You can also go to one of those used game stores and see what you
like there. They have great deals, especially on some of the older
systems like Nintendo 64 and regular Playstation.
Let your son help decide what he would like. Contrary to what many
people believe, video games are not all bad. They teach not only
hand/eye coordination, but logic, strategy, role playing, etc. ---
depends on what games you buy. I don't allow any games that are
really violent. Of course, my son mostly likes car and racing games,
crashes, etc.
Good Luck in your choice.
- Zandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/5/02 6:00:16 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< ut
their foundation is the Pokemon/Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Sonic type games.
(And those are exclusive to the Nintendo.) >>
Sonic is Sega.
But that TYPE game, yes. Little cartoon guys running around and jumping over
or tagging stuff.
<< ut
their foundation is the Pokemon/Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Sonic type games.
(And those are exclusive to the Nintendo.) >>
Sonic is Sega.
But that TYPE game, yes. Little cartoon guys running around and jumping over
or tagging stuff.
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/5/02 7:15:46 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< now I'm just trying to figure out if I just go out and buy it or if I wait
until Christmas to give it to him. That's what my parents would have done,
waited until Christmas, but don't know if that's what I want to do! >>
"Not back to school" educational expense.
For Christmas you can get him a cool game or some game guides or a
subscription to the whatever's-appropriate gaming magazine, or a bicycle!
Snowboard! Big Lego set! <g>
Sandra
<< now I'm just trying to figure out if I just go out and buy it or if I wait
until Christmas to give it to him. That's what my parents would have done,
waited until Christmas, but don't know if that's what I want to do! >>
"Not back to school" educational expense.
For Christmas you can get him a cool game or some game guides or a
subscription to the whatever's-appropriate gaming magazine, or a bicycle!
Snowboard! Big Lego set! <g>
Sandra
Mary Bianco
I'm not big on video games on the TV at all. Don't play them and don't
really like them much. My husband is the big kid and we did have some
Nintendo thing but now it's Playstation and my husband and kids seem to like
it better. Of course there are all kind of games with that from sports stuff
to some really violent things so you have to do your homework. Usually you
can tell just from looking at the cover.
Both our middle kids do have the gameboy advanced and love it. I do too as
the games for this usually seem more entertaining and thought provoking than
violent. I've been known to try and grab a game of alley way or tetris or
even Looney Tunes myself!!! Plus they come in handy when waits are
inevitable whether it's a long trip or just visiting relatives.
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really like them much. My husband is the big kid and we did have some
Nintendo thing but now it's Playstation and my husband and kids seem to like
it better. Of course there are all kind of games with that from sports stuff
to some really violent things so you have to do your homework. Usually you
can tell just from looking at the cover.
Both our middle kids do have the gameboy advanced and love it. I do too as
the games for this usually seem more entertaining and thought provoking than
violent. I've been known to try and grab a game of alley way or tetris or
even Looney Tunes myself!!! Plus they come in handy when waits are
inevitable whether it's a long trip or just visiting relatives.
Mary B
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Jenny Herrmann
Hi there,
Our family also resisted the electronic game craze for years before finally
buying an X-Box this past Christmas. It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) You can find out about the various games in the game
magazines. You should be able to find these in any Target, Walmart, etc.
We've found it useful to rent before we buy so we don't waste money on games
that are boring. Hope this helps some!
Jenny
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelli Traaseth [mailto:kellitraas@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Nintendo/electronic games, again
Sorry everyone, but I have to bring up games again. I am taking a big
step - I am
going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my son. It
is one of
his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet because I used
to always
say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would really
appreciate any
help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are the best
to
buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not
spending alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a
few
months.
My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am also
illiterate on
that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
If any of you would just by one big system and one small system which ones
would
you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like, trying new
things.
Kelli
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Our family also resisted the electronic game craze for years before finally
buying an X-Box this past Christmas. It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) You can find out about the various games in the game
magazines. You should be able to find these in any Target, Walmart, etc.
We've found it useful to rent before we buy so we don't waste money on games
that are boring. Hope this helps some!
Jenny
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelli Traaseth [mailto:kellitraas@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Nintendo/electronic games, again
Sorry everyone, but I have to bring up games again. I am taking a big
step - I am
going to go out and get some sort of video/electronic game for my son. It
is one of
his passions but of course I havn't let him delve into it yet because I used
to always
say "we will never have a Nintendo!". Well...here I am...I would really
appreciate any
help from you that know these games. I'm wondering which ones are the best
to
buy? He would like Game Boy Advance or any Nintendo or Playstation. Does
anyone know if there are ratings anywhere like maybe Consumer Report on
games? Am I being stupid? I guess I just want to make sure I'm not
spending alot
of money on something that is going to become obsolete or even broken in a
few
months.
My son, 9y, has been researching on E-bay different things, I am also
illiterate on
that, seems to be some good deals, but so much to chose from!
If any of you would just by one big system and one small system which ones
would
you buy? Like, which one for TV and which hand held?
Thanks for any help and for putting up with my rambling.
And my computer abilities, I don't know what this will look like, trying new
things.
Kelli
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In a message dated 9/5/02 11:58:17 AM, jherrman@... writes:
<< It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) >>
Huh. Some of the worst stuff is on at night.
Who made you make rules? I didn't know anyone HAD to make rules.
Sandra
<< It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) >>
Huh. Some of the worst stuff is on at night.
Who made you make rules? I didn't know anyone HAD to make rules.
Sandra
Jenny Herrmann
Ok, I made myself make the rules. We're new at this "un" stuff, I'm still
trying to get over my fear of letting them do whatever they want! You're
right about the worst stuff being on at night ( and I hate to say I got
addicted to American Idol), I guess the point is to get them out of the
house and into the world, doing "stuff", playing etc. etc.
Jenny
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In a message dated 9/5/02 11:58:17 AM, jherrman@... writes:
<< It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) >>
Huh. Some of the worst stuff is on at night.
Who made you make rules? I didn't know anyone HAD to make rules.
Sandra
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trying to get over my fear of letting them do whatever they want! You're
right about the worst stuff being on at night ( and I hate to say I got
addicted to American Idol), I guess the point is to get them out of the
house and into the world, doing "stuff", playing etc. etc.
Jenny
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In a message dated 9/5/02 11:58:17 AM, jherrman@... writes:
<< It has been fun, but I've had to make
some rules about usage. (We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.) >>
Huh. Some of the worst stuff is on at night.
Who made you make rules? I didn't know anyone HAD to make rules.
Sandra
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In a message dated 9/5/2002 2:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jherrman@... writes:
Close your eyes. Open your heart. Trust your children. Enjoy yourselves.
It's actually HARDER to do what you've been doing!
Relax---in every way. Think of it as an "out of body" experience. Watch your
children fall and stumble and grow and run and fly and laugh and........ And
you will too.
After you've REALLY taken the leap, it's time to enjoy the flight. RELAX!
Kelly
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jherrman@... writes:
> Ok, I made myself make the rules. We're new at this "un" stuff, I'm stillJenny,
> trying to get over my fear of letting them do whatever they want!
Close your eyes. Open your heart. Trust your children. Enjoy yourselves.
It's actually HARDER to do what you've been doing!
Relax---in every way. Think of it as an "out of body" experience. Watch your
children fall and stumble and grow and run and fly and laugh and........ And
you will too.
After you've REALLY taken the leap, it's time to enjoy the flight. RELAX!
Kelly
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writes:
writes:
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> during daylight hours.)
Fetteroll
on 9/5/02 9:48 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
Joyce
> Sonic is Sega.Been taken over by Nintendo.
Joyce
zenmomma *
>>It has been fun, but I've had to make some rules about usage. (We have aIs this a timer you've put on? Do you adjust the timer for daylight savings
>>timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on during daylight hours.)>>
time? Are there shows on during the day that you don't like or do you think
they should be out doing things? That timer idea would actually be
conterproductive for Conor. He does most of his reading and thinking and
creating at night. If that was the only time he could watch TV, he'd be all
screwed up.
What other kinds of rules do you have for the video games? Believe it or
not, Conor can play his PS2 anytime he wants. He doesn't play it all the
time. Some times he goes for weeks without touching it. Right now he's much
more interested in D&D and this Physicus game he got for the computer.
"Saving the world with Science".
Life is good.
~Mary
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Robyn Coburn
My husband says:
"When it comes to portable Gameboy Advance is the way to go. When it
comes down to home the debate rages on between the three major systems -
X-box (Microsoft), Playstation 2 (Sony), and GameCube (Nintendo).
X-Box is the most powerful amongst the three, hardware wise. It is also
easily used as a DVD player ($20 upgrade) and a CD music player. In our
house the X-box is used more as a DVD player than anything else. I
believe that the X-box has the most long term potential of the three
systems at the moment, however it also has the fewest games available.
X-box has parental controls that can be set for games and movies. You
can limit the game content played, based on the ASRB rating level.
Sony Playstation 2 - the defacto standard in home video game machines,
with 100's of games available and millions of users around the world.
The X-box is substantially more powerful in terms of its graphics
rendering. Playstation requires memory cards for gamesaving - the X-Box
does not.
GameCube is less expensive, has a smaller user base than the Playstation
and has more games than the X-box, and no ability to play DVD's.
My Ratings:-
First choice: X-Box
2nd: Sony Playstation
3rd: GameCube"
Robyn Coburn (or actually my husband, James)
"When it comes to portable Gameboy Advance is the way to go. When it
comes down to home the debate rages on between the three major systems -
X-box (Microsoft), Playstation 2 (Sony), and GameCube (Nintendo).
X-Box is the most powerful amongst the three, hardware wise. It is also
easily used as a DVD player ($20 upgrade) and a CD music player. In our
house the X-box is used more as a DVD player than anything else. I
believe that the X-box has the most long term potential of the three
systems at the moment, however it also has the fewest games available.
X-box has parental controls that can be set for games and movies. You
can limit the game content played, based on the ASRB rating level.
Sony Playstation 2 - the defacto standard in home video game machines,
with 100's of games available and millions of users around the world.
The X-box is substantially more powerful in terms of its graphics
rendering. Playstation requires memory cards for gamesaving - the X-Box
does not.
GameCube is less expensive, has a smaller user base than the Playstation
and has more games than the X-box, and no ability to play DVD's.
My Ratings:-
First choice: X-Box
2nd: Sony Playstation
3rd: GameCube"
Robyn Coburn (or actually my husband, James)
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In a message dated 9/5/02 12:48:18 PM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< > Sonic is Sega.
<<Been taken over by Nintendo. >>
Okay then!
Sorry to be out of date. <g>
Sandra
<< > Sonic is Sega.
<<Been taken over by Nintendo. >>
Okay then!
Sorry to be out of date. <g>
Sandra
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In a message dated 9/5/02 2:54:51 PM Central Daylight Time, dezigna@...
writes:
way to go. However the X-Box requires an upgrade to become a CD/DVD player
and the PS2 has it all built in. The PS2 has portals for future add on's as
well. To me, it is a toss up between the two, and I doubt we would even
consider the Game Cube.
If its games you want, go for the PS2. If its graphics, go for the X-Box. If
your family doesn't care and it is up to you and a deciding feature is the
ability to play DVD's (nice cause you don't have to go out and spend another
$200 for a DVD player) then I would flip a coin over the two. Although if you
got the PS2, you could save the $20 upgrade needed for the X-Box and buy a
game. (although most run for about $40. But I did get the new Tetris Worlds
for $20 the other day. <g>)
~Nancy
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writes:
> My Ratings:-I agree too (for the most part) If you want the graphics then X-box is the
>
> First choice: X-Box
> 2nd: Sony Playstation
> 3rd: GameCube"
>
> Robyn Coburn (or actually my husband, James)
>
way to go. However the X-Box requires an upgrade to become a CD/DVD player
and the PS2 has it all built in. The PS2 has portals for future add on's as
well. To me, it is a toss up between the two, and I doubt we would even
consider the Game Cube.
If its games you want, go for the PS2. If its graphics, go for the X-Box. If
your family doesn't care and it is up to you and a deciding feature is the
ability to play DVD's (nice cause you don't have to go out and spend another
$200 for a DVD player) then I would flip a coin over the two. Although if you
got the PS2, you could save the $20 upgrade needed for the X-Box and buy a
game. (although most run for about $40. But I did get the new Tetris Worlds
for $20 the other day. <g>)
~Nancy
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We bought a Nintendo 64 last Christmas (very cheap now btw, especially if
you can live with a blue and yellow Pikachu edition that Toys R Us has
priced WAY to low to get rid of them). What I have learned in my "gaming
research" is that each system has it's TOP games.
I intend to buy another system within a few months, either Playstation or
Game Cube. I have thoroughly enjoyed the two Zelda games for N64 but
there are games for other systems that I want to play. In the end we
will have several systems around the house and the kids can pick and
choose by the games they are currently interested in.
The system which seems to have the widest selection of games is
Playstation but I'm sure there are fans of other systems which would
disagree. The benefit of a Playstation is that it can be used to play
DVD as well.
Kris
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you can live with a blue and yellow Pikachu edition that Toys R Us has
priced WAY to low to get rid of them). What I have learned in my "gaming
research" is that each system has it's TOP games.
I intend to buy another system within a few months, either Playstation or
Game Cube. I have thoroughly enjoyed the two Zelda games for N64 but
there are games for other systems that I want to play. In the end we
will have several systems around the house and the kids can pick and
choose by the games they are currently interested in.
The system which seems to have the widest selection of games is
Playstation but I'm sure there are fans of other systems which would
disagree. The benefit of a Playstation is that it can be used to play
DVD as well.
Kris
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In a message dated 9/5/02 2:06:55 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< If its games you want, go for the PS2. If its graphics, go for the X-Box.
Holly's ten and plays Harvest Moon on PS2.
otherwise it's teen games and Final Fantasy X here.
Sandra
<< If its games you want, go for the PS2. If its graphics, go for the X-Box.
>>But what good games are there for little kids?
Holly's ten and plays Harvest Moon on PS2.
otherwise it's teen games and Final Fantasy X here.
Sandra
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(We have a timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on
during daylight hours.)
But what if you want to watch something?
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
during daylight hours.)
But what if you want to watch something?
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
Jenny Herrmann
Yes, it's a timer that won't let you turn the T.V. on. The daytime thing is
just what we came up with to limit their playing/watching time. We can
override it any time we want, which is often, or they ask us to. I just
found that they were not good at self limiting. Maybe I didn't give it
enough time? As I said before, we just pulled our kids out of the system in
the past year. I love all the questions from you all, gets me thinking!
Makes me KNOW I did and am doing the things that are best for my boys. It's
hard to get rid of the idea of school as I grew up with.
I don't have any other limits, but I do watch the content. I don't limit
their computer time.Jenny
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From: zenmomma * [mailto:zenmomma@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Nintendo/electronic games, again
time? Are there shows on during the day that you don't like or do you think
they should be out doing things? That timer idea would actually be
conterproductive for Conor. He does most of his reading and thinking and
creating at night. If that was the only time he could watch TV, he'd be all
screwed up.
What other kinds of rules do you have for the video games? Believe it or
not, Conor can play his PS2 anytime he wants. He doesn't play it all the
time. Some times he goes for weeks without touching it. Right now he's much
more interested in D&D and this Physicus game he got for the computer.
"Saving the world with Science".
Life is good.
~Mary
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just what we came up with to limit their playing/watching time. We can
override it any time we want, which is often, or they ask us to. I just
found that they were not good at self limiting. Maybe I didn't give it
enough time? As I said before, we just pulled our kids out of the system in
the past year. I love all the questions from you all, gets me thinking!
Makes me KNOW I did and am doing the things that are best for my boys. It's
hard to get rid of the idea of school as I grew up with.
I don't have any other limits, but I do watch the content. I don't limit
their computer time.Jenny
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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Nintendo/electronic games, again
>>It has been fun, but I've had to make some rules about usage. (We have aIs this a timer you've put on? Do you adjust the timer for daylight savings
>>timer on our T.V., It can't be turned on during daylight hours.)>>
time? Are there shows on during the day that you don't like or do you think
they should be out doing things? That timer idea would actually be
conterproductive for Conor. He does most of his reading and thinking and
creating at night. If that was the only time he could watch TV, he'd be all
screwed up.
What other kinds of rules do you have for the video games? Believe it or
not, Conor can play his PS2 anytime he wants. He doesn't play it all the
time. Some times he goes for weeks without touching it. Right now he's much
more interested in D&D and this Physicus game he got for the computer.
"Saving the world with Science".
Life is good.
~Mary
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zenmomma *
>>I just found that they were not good at self limiting. Maybe I didn't giveMaybe. Might be worth finding out if you're open to the experiment.
>>it enough time?>>
>>As I said before, we just pulled our kids out of the system inthe past year. I love all the questions from you all, gets me thinking!>>
Cool! Lots of times questions make people uncomfortable and defensive.I'm
glad to hear you're enjoying the thinking. :o)
>>Makes me KNOW I did and am doing the things that are best for my boys.>>You are, you are! And it just get beter the longer you're all away from
school.
Life is good.
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In a message dated 9/5/02 2:45:34 PM, jherrman@... writes:
<< Yes, it's a timer that won't let you turn the T.V. on. The daytime thing is
just what we came up with to limit their playing/watching time. We can
override it any time we want, which is often, or they ask us to. >>
If it can't be overridden...
then it's a timer that won't let little kids turn the TV on.
<< It's hard to get rid of the idea of school as I grew up with..>
Sometimes just paying attention to the language I chose to use made a big
difference in my thinking. There are ways people have to justify things by
using traditional phrases and idioms without really thinking about what the
words mean.
For a not-so-related example, pregnant women often say things like "My doctor
says it's okay for me to..." or "My doctor says I can't..." or "My doctor
won't let me..." And language becomes truth. If the mom waits for the
doctor's advice and takes it as though he owns her and the baby, he IS in
control. But he doesn't actually own her and the baby.
And sometimes parents use language that separates them from the children in
some profound ways. Unschooling seems to work best the closer families can
be to being groups of individual humans instead of one or two adults and then
"them," the kids. When families say "We decided" do they mean the parents?
Or the family decided?
It's worth thinking about.
Sandra
<< Yes, it's a timer that won't let you turn the T.V. on. The daytime thing is
just what we came up with to limit their playing/watching time. We can
override it any time we want, which is often, or they ask us to. >>
If it can't be overridden...
then it's a timer that won't let little kids turn the TV on.
<< It's hard to get rid of the idea of school as I grew up with..>
Sometimes just paying attention to the language I chose to use made a big
difference in my thinking. There are ways people have to justify things by
using traditional phrases and idioms without really thinking about what the
words mean.
For a not-so-related example, pregnant women often say things like "My doctor
says it's okay for me to..." or "My doctor says I can't..." or "My doctor
won't let me..." And language becomes truth. If the mom waits for the
doctor's advice and takes it as though he owns her and the baby, he IS in
control. But he doesn't actually own her and the baby.
And sometimes parents use language that separates them from the children in
some profound ways. Unschooling seems to work best the closer families can
be to being groups of individual humans instead of one or two adults and then
"them," the kids. When families say "We decided" do they mean the parents?
Or the family decided?
It's worth thinking about.
Sandra