Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Lord of the rings
Heather Woodward
After all the discussuion about movies, music, morlaity, etc... I did have a question that I would like some input for - although I may already know what the response will be ;-)
My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed. After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could promise such a thing ;-)
I don't want to be irresponsible. If we watch it and it seems to scary - she will still want to watch it. She is not going to self-regulate and say..."this is too scary..." we went through this with Jurassic park.
I then thought that we could read the book together, because then the monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered that I attempted to read Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and never finished because it was too scary...
So what do you think...
My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed. After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could promise such a thing ;-)
I don't want to be irresponsible. If we watch it and it seems to scary - she will still want to watch it. She is not going to self-regulate and say..."this is too scary..." we went through this with Jurassic park.
I then thought that we could read the book together, because then the monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered that I attempted to read Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and never finished because it was too scary...
So what do you think...
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From: winnierfm@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] I'm offended (was Re: Eminem-long)
In a message dated 8/27/02 9:04:50 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
sheran@... writes:
> And Shakespeare is too intense for young kids, or at least my young
> kids. But when they're older, I would read Shakespeare with my kids.
> Books and even some tv shows and movies are more comfortable for me
> because I can sit and pause the reading or pause the movie and
> discuss what is immoral with my kids. I can say this person is acting
> wrong and these were the consequences of their behavior.
Hmmm....I read Shakespeare to my young ones (mostly sonnets though.) Really,
I read them whatever I'm reading...my oldest loves to be read to.
However, if you make a point to know what your children are reading, or
watching or listening to in music can't you discuss the consequences. Here
is much milder version than raping a 12 yr old or other things discussed.
My son Andrew adores Thomas the Tank Engine. He reads the books (even on his
own he'll look at the pictures for hours), collects the trains, watches the
videos, wears the clothes ect (I think you get the idea.) One day I was
watching the video with him and heard the following "Thomas and Henry felt
sorry for James but they teased him anyway." Well, I don't want my son to
learn that it is ok to tease people no matter what the circumstances. For a
while, I took the videos away. However, that didn't seem entirely fair. He
derived so much pleasure and learned so much from the Thomas stuff I gave
them back. I watched this particular one with him several times and pointed
out that wasn't very nice.
My point is: it doesn't matter if it is books or videos or music they will be
exposed to things that go against any family's personal values. Just the
same way as we point out wrong in a book or video can't we do the same with
music (if we know what they are listening to?)
I was a child that the more something was forbidden the more I wanted
it...leading to dabblings in over drinking and other unsavory things...I hope
that I learned enough from that to give my children reasonable freedom. How
much that is depends a lot on how the world is 10 yrs from now!
Tanya
mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within
himself
--Galileo
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Gerard Westenberg
<My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see it.>
I think it depends on the child. My then 6 yo saw it at the movies - he sat on dh's lap and talked about special fx - he is really into how they make movies and so the scenes were less frightening for him as he knew they weren't real.I have read/am reading the books to him and some ithers..They all love the books, talk lots about the film and the novels, the characters and choices, and ove watching our DVD of the film...Leonie W.
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I think it depends on the child. My then 6 yo saw it at the movies - he sat on dh's lap and talked about special fx - he is really into how they make movies and so the scenes were less frightening for him as he knew they weren't real.I have read/am reading the books to him and some ithers..They all love the books, talk lots about the film and the novels, the characters and choices, and ove watching our DVD of the film...Leonie W.
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:17:08 -0400 "Heather Woodward"
<bacwoodz@...> writes:
pain of having nightmares.
I have watched movies with Rain, and whsipered to her at certain scenes
"this part is scary" or gross or sad or whatever. Not so much anymore,
but a couple of years ago it helped her to be prepared. Sometimes she'd
leave the room during a scene, or cover her eyes and ask me to tell her
when that part was over.
I think, though, that if she were worried that I'd decide the movie was
too scary for her and not let her watch the rest, she'd probably do her
best to hide her fear or discomfort. She might not feel comfortable
covering her eyes or leaving the room, either.
It's not really self regulating if you still have the power to take the
video away.
Dar
<bacwoodz@...> writes:
> I don't want to be irresponsible. If we watch it and it seems toMaybe for her, the pleasure of watching the movie outweighs the possible
> scary - she will still want to watch it. She is not going to
> self-regulate and say..."this is too scary..." we went through this
> with Jurassic park.
pain of having nightmares.
I have watched movies with Rain, and whsipered to her at certain scenes
"this part is scary" or gross or sad or whatever. Not so much anymore,
but a couple of years ago it helped her to be prepared. Sometimes she'd
leave the room during a scene, or cover her eyes and ask me to tell her
when that part was over.
I think, though, that if she were worried that I'd decide the movie was
too scary for her and not let her watch the rest, she'd probably do her
best to hide her fear or discomfort. She might not feel comfortable
covering her eyes or leaving the room, either.
It's not really self regulating if you still have the power to take the
video away.
Dar
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In a message dated 8/27/02 9:17:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
bacwoodz@... writes:
than I pictured. I would read it to Andrew now if I thought he'd understand
any of it :)
Maybe you could start with "the Hobbit"? It is much shorter and the intro to
"Lord of the Rings" and then see how she does.
Tanya
mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within
himself
--Galileo
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bacwoodz@... writes:
> I then thought that we could read the book together, because then theI loved reading the "Lord of the Rings" book...the movie seemed much darker
> monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered that I attempted to read
> Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and never finished because it
> was too scary...
than I pictured. I would read it to Andrew now if I thought he'd understand
any of it :)
Maybe you could start with "the Hobbit"? It is much shorter and the intro to
"Lord of the Rings" and then see how she does.
Tanya
mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within
himself
--Galileo
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Fetteroll
on 8/28/02 12:17 AM, Heather Woodward at bacwoodz@... wrote:
stop whenever she wants or skip whatever she wants and 2) the feeling that
the control won't be taken away from her. If she has the feeling that
something like this will be forbidden if she ends up with nightmares, she
may force herself to stay for parts that trouble her because the opportunity
to watch something like this may be taken away and this may be her only
chance. If she knows it will always be an option to use her own judgement
and learn from misjudgements, she'll test and get a feel for her own limits.
She will misjudge some things, but that's part of the process.
Joyce
> My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to seeI think she needs 2 things: 1) the feeling that she's in control so she can
> it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed.
> After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I
> told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could
> promise such a thing ;-)
stop whenever she wants or skip whatever she wants and 2) the feeling that
the control won't be taken away from her. If she has the feeling that
something like this will be forbidden if she ends up with nightmares, she
may force herself to stay for parts that trouble her because the opportunity
to watch something like this may be taken away and this may be her only
chance. If she knows it will always be an option to use her own judgement
and learn from misjudgements, she'll test and get a feel for her own limits.
She will misjudge some things, but that's part of the process.
Joyce
Leslie Avery
My 10 year old did not want to see it in the movie
theatre so we rented the animated versions of The
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. You can get both at
your neighborhood video store.
Leslie
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theatre so we rented the animated versions of The
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. You can get both at
your neighborhood video store.
Leslie
--- winnierfm@... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/27/02 9:17:41 PM US Mountain__________________________________________________
> Standard Time,
> bacwoodz@... writes:
> > I then thought that we could read the book
> together, because then the
> > monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered
> that I attempted to read
> > Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and
> never finished because it
> > was too scary...
>
> I loved reading the "Lord of the Rings" book...the
> movie seemed much darker
> than I pictured. I would read it to Andrew now if I
> thought he'd understand
> any of it :)
>
> Maybe you could start with "the Hobbit"? It is much
> shorter and the intro to
> "Lord of the Rings" and then see how she does.
> Tanya
> mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
> You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help
> him to find it within
> himself
> --Galileo
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Kelli Traaseth
I also am going through the same dilemma, 9 yr old son wants to see it. My husband and I have seen it also and I was so stressed out after watching it I felt like a basketcase. Very intense!! Loved it but intense! I really want to watch it with my son but I am so torn over it. IMO I have a responsibility to try and protect my children from things that they aren't emotionally ready to handle, But, I also don't want to stifle or keep them too sheltered. I do think that age appropriateness does have a place somewhere in parenting, but it is so hard to know where. We had the same issue with Jurassic Park too. Did let him watch it tho' and he loved it but now he has said some "swear" words to other kids and they hadn't heard them before, so then of course I bore the brunt of that from the other parents. It is so hard to know! Kelli
Heather Woodward wrote:After all the discussuion about movies, music, morlaity, etc... I did have a question that I would like some input for - although I may already know what the response will be ;-)
My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed. After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could promise such a thing ;-)
I don't want to be irresponsible. If we watch it and it seems to scary - she will still want to watch it. She is not going to self-regulate and say..."this is too scary..." we went through this with Jurassic park.
I then thought that we could read the book together, because then the monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered that I attempted to read Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and never finished because it was too scary...
So what do you think...
Heather Woodward wrote:After all the discussuion about movies, music, morlaity, etc... I did have a question that I would like some input for - although I may already know what the response will be ;-)
My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed. After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could promise such a thing ;-)
I don't want to be irresponsible. If we watch it and it seems to scary - she will still want to watch it. She is not going to self-regulate and say..."this is too scary..." we went through this with Jurassic park.
I then thought that we could read the book together, because then the monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered that I attempted to read Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and never finished because it was too scary...
So what do you think...
----- Original Message -----
From: winnierfm@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] I'm offended (was Re: Eminem-long)
In a message dated 8/27/02 9:04:50 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
sheran@... writes:
> And Shakespeare is too intense for young kids, or at least my young
> kids. But when they're older, I would read Shakespeare with my kids.
> Books and even some tv shows and movies are more comfortable for me
> because I can sit and pause the reading or pause the movie and
> discuss what is immoral with my kids. I can say this person is acting
> wrong and these were the consequences of their behavior.
Hmmm....I read Shakespeare to my young ones (mostly sonnets though.) Really,
I read them whatever I'm reading...my oldest loves to be read to.
However, if you make a point to know what your children are reading, or
watching or listening to in music can't you discuss the consequences. Here
is much milder version than raping a 12 yr old or other things discussed.
My son Andrew adores Thomas the Tank Engine. He reads the books (even on his
own he'll look at the pictures for hours), collects the trains, watches the
videos, wears the clothes ect (I think you get the idea.) One day I was
watching the video with him and heard the following "Thomas and Henry felt
sorry for James but they teased him anyway." Well, I don't want my son to
learn that it is ok to tease people no matter what the circumstances. For a
while, I took the videos away. However, that didn't seem entirely fair. He
derived so much pleasure and learned so much from the Thomas stuff I gave
them back. I watched this particular one with him several times and pointed
out that wasn't very nice.
My point is: it doesn't matter if it is books or videos or music they will be
exposed to things that go against any family's personal values. Just the
same way as we point out wrong in a book or video can't we do the same with
music (if we know what they are listening to?)
I was a child that the more something was forbidden the more I wanted
it...leading to dabblings in over drinking and other unsavory things...I hope
that I learned enough from that to give my children reasonable freedom. How
much that is depends a lot on how the world is 10 yrs from now!
Tanya
mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within
himself
--Galileo
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Kelli Traaseth
Thank you Joyce, that's the advice I needed. Kelli
Fetteroll wrote:on 8/28/02 12:17 AM, Heather Woodward at bacwoodz@... wrote:
stop whenever she wants or skip whatever she wants and 2) the feeling that
the control won't be taken away from her. If she has the feeling that
something like this will be forbidden if she ends up with nightmares, she
may force herself to stay for parts that trouble her because the opportunity
to watch something like this may be taken away and this may be her only
chance. If she knows it will always be an option to use her own judgement
and learn from misjudgements, she'll test and get a feel for her own limits.
She will misjudge some things, but that's part of the process.
Joyce
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Fetteroll wrote:on 8/28/02 12:17 AM, Heather Woodward at bacwoodz@... wrote:
> My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to seeI think she needs 2 things: 1) the feeling that she's in control so she can
> it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed.
> After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I
> told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could
> promise such a thing ;-)
stop whenever she wants or skip whatever she wants and 2) the feeling that
the control won't be taken away from her. If she has the feeling that
something like this will be forbidden if she ends up with nightmares, she
may force herself to stay for parts that trouble her because the opportunity
to watch something like this may be taken away and this may be her only
chance. If she knows it will always be an option to use her own judgement
and learn from misjudgements, she'll test and get a feel for her own limits.
She will misjudge some things, but that's part of the process.
Joyce
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Heather Woodward
Thanks Joyce -
That makes a lot of sense...
Heather
That makes a lot of sense...
Heather
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Lord of the rings
on 8/28/02 12:17 AM, Heather Woodward at bacwoodz@... wrote:
> My husband and I rented Lord of the Rings. My 8 yr. old really wanted to see
> it. It was late when we sat down to watch it - so she was already in bed.
> After viewing it - I thought it too scary, with the monsters and all... I
> told her this, and she "promised not to have nightmares" - like one could
> promise such a thing ;-)
I think she needs 2 things: 1) the feeling that she's in control so she can
stop whenever she wants or skip whatever she wants and 2) the feeling that
the control won't be taken away from her. If she has the feeling that
something like this will be forbidden if she ends up with nightmares, she
may force herself to stay for parts that trouble her because the opportunity
to watch something like this may be taken away and this may be her only
chance. If she knows it will always be an option to use her own judgement
and learn from misjudgements, she'll test and get a feel for her own limits.
She will misjudge some things, but that's part of the process.
Joyce
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Heather Woodward
Thanks - I didn't know another version exsisted...
I do think I'd like to read the books first though - I always read them first. Actually my husband saw this movie in the theater - but I wanted to read the book first - and here I am, never having gotten around to it....
I do think I'd like to read the books first though - I always read them first. Actually my husband saw this movie in the theater - but I wanted to read the book first - and here I am, never having gotten around to it....
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Lord of the rings
My 10 year old did not want to see it in the movie
theatre so we rented the animated versions of The
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. You can get both at
your neighborhood video store.
Leslie
--- winnierfm@... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/27/02 9:17:41 PM US Mountain
> Standard Time,
> bacwoodz@... writes:
> > I then thought that we could read the book
> together, because then the
> > monsters aren't always so vivid - but I remembered
> that I attempted to read
> > Stephen King's Pet Cemetary as a 5th grader - and
> never finished because it
> > was too scary...
>
> I loved reading the "Lord of the Rings" book...the
> movie seemed much darker
> than I pictured. I would read it to Andrew now if I
> thought he'd understand
> any of it :)
>
> Maybe you could start with "the Hobbit"? It is much
> shorter and the intro to
> "Lord of the Rings" and then see how she does.
> Tanya
> mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
> You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help
> him to find it within
> himself
> --Galileo
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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on 8/29/02 12:13 AM, Heather Woodward at bacwoodz@... wrote:
version of The Hobbit. And listened to a BBC radio play version of The Lord
of the Rings. It had sound effects and different actors for the different
characters. That helped me a lot! (All those characters ::: sigh ::: I'm
still ticked off at Tolkien for naming two characters Sauron and Sauruman!
;-)
Joyce
> I do think I'd like to read the books first though - I always read them first.There're also books on tape versions available. We listened to a straight
> Actually my husband saw this movie in the theater - but I wanted to read the
> book first - and here I am, never having gotten around to it....
version of The Hobbit. And listened to a BBC radio play version of The Lord
of the Rings. It had sound effects and different actors for the different
characters. That helped me a lot! (All those characters ::: sigh ::: I'm
still ticked off at Tolkien for naming two characters Sauron and Sauruman!
;-)
Joyce
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In a message dated 8/29/02 2:47:31 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< I'm
still ticked off at Tolkien for naming two characters Sauron and Sauruman! >>
Yes, that has always been bothersome to me as a visual reader.
(DARN that look-say, although in this case even people who move their lips to
read are likely to confuse those two characters!)
In the movie, I suppose maybe to make the races easier to distinguish, the
two humans (Boromir and Aragon) looked quite a bit too much like one another
for my tastes.
Sometimes in casting a movie people aren't careful to get really different
looking people and it's hard for me to get the characters straight at first.
That happened with Sum of all Fears.
Sandra
<< I'm
still ticked off at Tolkien for naming two characters Sauron and Sauruman! >>
Yes, that has always been bothersome to me as a visual reader.
(DARN that look-say, although in this case even people who move their lips to
read are likely to confuse those two characters!)
In the movie, I suppose maybe to make the races easier to distinguish, the
two humans (Boromir and Aragon) looked quite a bit too much like one another
for my tastes.
Sometimes in casting a movie people aren't careful to get really different
looking people and it's hard for me to get the characters straight at first.
That happened with Sum of all Fears.
Sandra
Fetteroll
on 8/29/02 9:35 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
body shapes and face shapes.
You realize there's no legitimate excuse for having characters be visually
confusing after seeing Seven Samurai. The movie's Japanese so there's no
variation in hair color or race. (And it's black and white to boot.) Yet
each character is distictive.
England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting, distinctive
faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of local theater so
there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's not a vast enough pool
that they can make do with just the beautiful ones. So they have to resort
to relying purely on talent alone ;-)
Joyce
> Sometimes in casting a movie people aren't careful to get really differentAnd I think there's the factor that Hollywood favors only a limited range of
> looking people and it's hard for me to get the characters straight at first.
> That happened with Sum of all Fears.
body shapes and face shapes.
You realize there's no legitimate excuse for having characters be visually
confusing after seeing Seven Samurai. The movie's Japanese so there's no
variation in hair color or race. (And it's black and white to boot.) Yet
each character is distictive.
England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting, distinctive
faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of local theater so
there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's not a vast enough pool
that they can make do with just the beautiful ones. So they have to resort
to relying purely on talent alone ;-)
Joyce
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In a message dated 8/29/02 9:33:35 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting, distinctive
faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of local theater so
there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's not a vast enough pool
that they can make do with just the beautiful ones. So they have to resort
to relying purely on talent alone ;-) >>
I thought it was just that Brits were funny-looking!!
<< England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting, distinctive
faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of local theater so
there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's not a vast enough pool
that they can make do with just the beautiful ones. So they have to resort
to relying purely on talent alone ;-) >>
I thought it was just that Brits were funny-looking!!
Shyrley
On 29 Aug 02, at 11:43, SandraDodd@... wrote:
Come here and say that!!!
:-)
You're just jealous of our classy accents....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>Oi you!!!
> In a message dated 8/29/02 9:33:35 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
>
> << England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting,
> distinctive faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of
> local theater so there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's
> not a vast enough pool that they can make do with just the beautiful
> ones. So they have to resort to relying purely on talent alone ;-) >>
>
> I thought it was just that Brits were funny-looking!!
>
Come here and say that!!!
:-)
You're just jealous of our classy accents....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Kelli Traaseth
Oh Shyrley, I love that quote! "You laugh at me..... I really appreciate it because some people I know think if you do the homeschooling thing and let your children learn naturally, they'll be 'different'. Like I tell my mother, " I take pride in being different, thank you for the compliment!" Or does anyone get this? "Your children are different than other children, they seem alive?" I do feel like I am the only unschooler where I live! Kelli
Shyrley wrote:On 29 Aug 02, at 11:43, SandraDodd@... wrote:
Come here and say that!!!
:-)
You're just jealous of our classy accents....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
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Shyrley wrote:On 29 Aug 02, at 11:43, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>Oi you!!!
> In a message dated 8/29/02 9:33:35 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
>
> << England is really good at choosing actors with very intersting,
> distinctive faces. Maybe it's because they have a good foundation of
> local theater so there's lots of actors but an awareness that there's
> not a vast enough pool that they can make do with just the beautiful
> ones. So they have to resort to relying purely on talent alone ;-) >>
>
> I thought it was just that Brits were funny-looking!!
>
Come here and say that!!!
:-)
You're just jealous of our classy accents....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
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In a message dated 8/29/02 12:42:26 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< You're just jealous of our classy accents....
(ducking and running...
...and hiding with my eyes closed)
Sandra
<< You're just jealous of our classy accents....
>>Yep. You guys sound like Australians!!
(ducking and running...
...and hiding with my eyes closed)
Sandra
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I heard from a friend last night that it's considered quite classy in
corporate circles (at least in the bay area) to have a secretary with a
British accent. The guy telling me about it said around 50% of the
secretaries he speaks with have them.
Something to remember when job-hunting, anyway... I do a great Eliza
Doolittle, but he said that's not really what they're looking for ;-)
Dar
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:15:00 EDT SandraDodd@... writes:
corporate circles (at least in the bay area) to have a secretary with a
British accent. The guy telling me about it said around 50% of the
secretaries he speaks with have them.
Something to remember when job-hunting, anyway... I do a great Eliza
Doolittle, but he said that's not really what they're looking for ;-)
Dar
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:15:00 EDT SandraDodd@... writes:
>
> In a message dated 8/29/02 12:42:26 PM, shyrley.williams@...
> writes:
>
> << You're just jealous of our classy accents....
> >>
>
> Yep. You guys sound like Australians!!
>
> (ducking and running...
> ...and hiding with my eyes closed)
>
Shyrley
On 29 Aug 02, at 15:15, SandraDodd@... wrote:
accent and that of a colonial.
I order you to watch Harry Potter all afternoon.
:-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>Sigh. Typical yank. Can't tell the difference between a british
> In a message dated 8/29/02 12:42:26 PM, shyrley.williams@...
> writes:
>
> << You're just jealous of our classy accents....
> >>
>
> Yep. You guys sound like Australians!!
>
> (ducking and running...
> ...and hiding with my eyes closed)
>
> Sandra
>
accent and that of a colonial.
I order you to watch Harry Potter all afternoon.
:-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Alan & Brenda Leonard
on 8/29/02 14:51, [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote:
If it's any consolation, I was well into my first reading of the Lord of the
Rings before I suddenly stopped and had to go back many, many pages because
I realized that those were 2 different people, not 1! I was vastly confused
for a long time.
brenda
p.s. Are the stores in the US filled with cool Lord of the Rings stuff? My
favorite German toy store has these great backpacks with elvish writing on
them that say Der Herr der Ringen...in kid's size. I want one my size!
[email protected] wrote:
> (All those characters ::: sigh ::: I'mJoyce,
> still ticked off at Tolkien for naming two characters Sauron and Sauruman!
> ;-)
If it's any consolation, I was well into my first reading of the Lord of the
Rings before I suddenly stopped and had to go back many, many pages because
I realized that those were 2 different people, not 1! I was vastly confused
for a long time.
brenda
p.s. Are the stores in the US filled with cool Lord of the Rings stuff? My
favorite German toy store has these great backpacks with elvish writing on
them that say Der Herr der Ringen...in kid's size. I want one my size!
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/29/02 4:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
kellitraas@... writes:
are others they must live down by the river! Wait! I live down by the
river... Anyway, today Darin was off work (first day in a few months! yea!)
and we were just having fun, catching up on some errands, hanging out and
Jack wore his Spiderman mask almost all day. (I talked him out of his full
costume, as it is getting a tad too small.) It is a cloth *mask* that fits
over his head with two eye holes. It fits just like the *real* Spiderman
mask. He wore it through Lowe's, Walmart, Pets Smart, the car wash, Olive
Garden (he lifted it up to just above his mouth) and Barnes and Noble. We got
stares, we got glares, we got smiles and heard whispered comments and laughs.
He climbed under a shelving unit at Lowe's and got turned around. I was
measuring some wood and wasn't being a good pay-attention Mom and he found
himself lost. So Jack did what Jack is supposed to do and went to the front
of the store and asked to have his Mom and Dad paged. Problem! Jack wouldn't
tell them his name, he insisted he IS Spiderman, and his parents are dead and
he is being raised by his Aunt and Uncle... Needless to say I knew who they
meant when over the intercom I heard, "Would the parents or aunt and uncle of
Spiderman please come to the customer service desk. Your child is waiting,"
then after just a few seconds, we heard this "Ummm Your Spiderman is
waiting." <g> Darin couldn't go to the desk, he was laughing too hard.
I know we are different, weird, unusual, funny, people and I love it! I
wouldn't have it any other way.
~Nancy
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kellitraas@... writes:
> Oh Shyrley, I love that quote! "You laugh at me..... I really appreciateI am pretty darn sure that I am the only unschooler in my town... If there
> it because some people I know think if you do the homeschooling thing and
> let your children learn naturally, they'll be 'different'. Like I tell my
> mother, " I take pride in being different, thank you for the compliment!"
> Or does anyone get this? "Your children are different than other children,
> they seem alive?" I do feel like I am the only unschooler where I live!
> Kelli
>
are others they must live down by the river! Wait! I live down by the
river... Anyway, today Darin was off work (first day in a few months! yea!)
and we were just having fun, catching up on some errands, hanging out and
Jack wore his Spiderman mask almost all day. (I talked him out of his full
costume, as it is getting a tad too small.) It is a cloth *mask* that fits
over his head with two eye holes. It fits just like the *real* Spiderman
mask. He wore it through Lowe's, Walmart, Pets Smart, the car wash, Olive
Garden (he lifted it up to just above his mouth) and Barnes and Noble. We got
stares, we got glares, we got smiles and heard whispered comments and laughs.
He climbed under a shelving unit at Lowe's and got turned around. I was
measuring some wood and wasn't being a good pay-attention Mom and he found
himself lost. So Jack did what Jack is supposed to do and went to the front
of the store and asked to have his Mom and Dad paged. Problem! Jack wouldn't
tell them his name, he insisted he IS Spiderman, and his parents are dead and
he is being raised by his Aunt and Uncle... Needless to say I knew who they
meant when over the intercom I heard, "Would the parents or aunt and uncle of
Spiderman please come to the customer service desk. Your child is waiting,"
then after just a few seconds, we heard this "Ummm Your Spiderman is
waiting." <g> Darin couldn't go to the desk, he was laughing too hard.
I know we are different, weird, unusual, funny, people and I love it! I
wouldn't have it any other way.
~Nancy
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"Would the parents or aunt and uncle of
Spiderman please come to the customer service desk. Your child is waiting,"
then after just a few seconds, we heard this "Ummm Your Spiderman is
waiting."
I think I would have headed up to the desk just to see this family reunion!
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
Spiderman please come to the customer service desk. Your child is waiting,"
then after just a few seconds, we heard this "Ummm Your Spiderman is
waiting."
I think I would have headed up to the desk just to see this family reunion!
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
Betsy
**Sigh. Typical yank. Can't tell the difference between a british
accent and that of a colonial.
I order you to watch Harry Potter all afternoon.**
Is Wood the Quiddich captain's accent Scottish? It's beautiful. Sigh.
And can you place Merry and Pippin's accents from Lord of the Rings?
Betsy
accent and that of a colonial.
I order you to watch Harry Potter all afternoon.**
Is Wood the Quiddich captain's accent Scottish? It's beautiful. Sigh.
And can you place Merry and Pippin's accents from Lord of the Rings?
Betsy
Shyrley
On 30 Aug 02, at 9:18, Betsy wrote:
a different area to Woods. Umm, I can't remeber what Merry's
sounds like. Guess I need to spend the afternoon letching after
Aragorn...I mean, watching Lord of The Rings again.
I'll get back to you in 3 hours or so :-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> **Sigh. Typical yank. Can't tell the difference between a britishYup it is.
> accent and that of a colonial. I order you to watch Harry Potter all
> afternoon.**
>
>
> Is Wood the Quiddich captain's accent Scottish? It's beautiful.
> Sigh.Yes. Pippin's is also scottish but from
>
> And can you place Merry and Pippin's accents from Lord of the Rings?
a different area to Woods. Umm, I can't remeber what Merry's
sounds like. Guess I need to spend the afternoon letching after
Aragorn...I mean, watching Lord of The Rings again.
I'll get back to you in 3 hours or so :-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/30/02 8:08:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
ElissaJC@... writes:
~Nancu
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ElissaJC@... writes:
> I think I would have headed up to the desk just to see this family reunion!Jack was very proud of himself! Ummm, I mean Spiderman.
> ~Elissa Cleaveland
~Nancu
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Alan Tait
Oh great, I finally catch up on the last three weeks posts I hadn't read
and find I missed a chance that I have a Scottish accent, being Scottish
making this easy to achieve.
Well missed the chance to do it topically anyway :-D
DFM
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and find I missed a chance that I have a Scottish accent, being Scottish
making this easy to achieve.
Well missed the chance to do it topically anyway :-D
DFM
Waving at Shyrley because she's Fluffy
> -----Original Message-----all
> From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
> Sent: 30 August 2002 19:12
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Lord of the rings
>
> On 30 Aug 02, at 9:18, Betsy wrote:
>
> > **Sigh. Typical yank. Can't tell the difference between a british
> > accent and that of a colonial. I order you to watch Harry Potter all
> > afternoon.**
> >
> >
> > Is Wood the Quiddich captain's accent Scottish? It's beautiful.
>
> Yup it is.
>
> > Sigh.
> >
> > And can you place Merry and Pippin's accents from Lord of the Rings?
>
> Yes. Pippin's is also scottish but from
> a different area to Woods. Umm, I can't remeber what Merry's
> sounds like. Guess I need to spend the afternoon letching after
> Aragorn...I mean, watching Lord of The Rings again.
> I'll get back to you in 3 hours or so :-)
>
>
> Shyrley
>
>
> "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are
> the same."email
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Shyrley
On 14 Sep 02, at 20:08, Alan Tait wrote:
cyber-space :-)
I'm off to the Maryland Rennaissance Festival later this month to
listen to people putting on fake british accents. Last year I got
complimented on my attempt but was told I said some words
badly. Ahem.
I miss Crieth :-(
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> Oh great, I finally catch up on the last three weeks posts I hadn'tWotcha Alan. I didn't know you were on this list too. Small world,
> read and find I missed a chance that I have a Scottish accent, being
> Scottish making this easy to achieve.
>
> Well missed the chance to do it topically anyway :-D
>
> DFM
> Waving at Shyrley because she's Fluffy
>
cyber-space :-)
I'm off to the Maryland Rennaissance Festival later this month to
listen to people putting on fake british accents. Last year I got
complimented on my attempt but was told I said some words
badly. Ahem.
I miss Crieth :-(
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."