Luz Shosie and Ned Vare

on 8/26/02 9:28 AM, [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote:

> What is radical unschooling compared to plain unschooling (which seems pretty
> darn radical to me?!)
> Tanya

To Tanya,

You're right. Adding the word "radical" to something that is already
radical (meaning "fundamental") is merely adding hyperbole, but without
meaning. There's homeschooling (which, to most people today means, "doing
school at home" whether it's a classical style or ecclectic or religious),
and there's unschooling which means NOT doing "school" at home. Some are
now calling it "natural" learning, and that seems to mean whatever is
"picked up" through living...the term has a positive, new-age flavor that
just might eventually replace the "UN" word.

There are sure to be arguments and complaints about what I've said, however.

NV

joanna514

> > What is radical unschooling compared to plain unschooling (which
seems pretty
> > darn radical to me?!)
> > Tanya
>
> To Tanya,
>
> You're right. Adding the word "radical" to something that is
already
> radical (meaning "fundamental") is merely adding hyperbole, but
without
> meaning. There's homeschooling (which, to most people today
means, "doing
> school at home" whether it's a classical style or ecclectic or
religious),
> and there's unschooling which means NOT doing "school" at home.
Some are
> now calling it "natural" learning, and that seems to mean whatever
is
> "picked up" through living...the term has a positive, new-age
flavor that
> just might eventually replace the "UN" word.
>
> There are sure to be arguments and complaints about what I've said,
however.
>
> NV

Only one complaint ;-)
You didn't answer the question.
Radical got added to unschooling because of people using the word
unschooling inappropriately.
There were entire e list and message boards(still are)dedicated to
unschooling that were dominated by ecclectics types who called
themselves unschoolers.
So when someone who was an actual unschooler came on the list and
started discussing ideas, they got put into the "radical" category.
I know people IRL who call themselves unschoolers, who are very much
not. They consider me a radical one.
To me, you either unschool or you don't. No radical needed.
Joanna

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In a message dated 8/26/02 11:40:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
nedvare@... writes:
> Some are
> now calling it "natural" learning, and that seems to mean whatever is
> "picked up" through living...the term has a positive, new-age flavor that
> just might eventually replace the "UN" word.

I've called it natural learning when talking to others who don't know what it
is. It is pretty well accepted...but when I used the word "Un" to my mother
red flags got thrown up every where.
Tanya
mom to Andrew Jordan 4/1/00 and Eli Hunter 10/29/01
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within
himself
--Galileo


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In a message dated 8/27/02 4:51:01 PM, winnierfm@... writes:

<< > Some are
> now calling it "natural" learning, and that seems to mean whatever is
> "picked up" through living...the term has a positive, new-age flavor that
> just might eventually replace the "UN" word. >>

I heard "natural learning" in the 1970's, in college.