Cathy Gardner

On the subject of circuses and animal exploitation, I've spent the summer trying to teach my dd (4) where her meals come from (she asks constantly "what animal is this" at each meal). I'm so strongly against Confined Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) and I was working toward a simplified explanation of them for her. My plan was to guide her to an understanding of why it's so important to choose sources of meat from people who raise humanely. Guess what?!? She skipped a step and decided last week that she would no longer eat animals. Of course, we chuckled, but she is sticking to her guns. So I remembered a mom on this list whose son also chose to become vegetarian. Questions to her: where are you finding recipes? How are you explaining nutritional needs? And is the rest of your family omnivorous? If so, how are you handling meals?

Cathy



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Cindy BUEHLER

This website might be helpful http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/magazine/articles/kidsgroup.html.


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From: Cathy Gardner
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:38 AM
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Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Animal Exploitation


On the subject of circuses and animal exploitation, I've spent the summer trying to teach my dd (4) where her meals come from (she asks constantly "what animal is this" at each meal). I'm so strongly against Confined Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) and I was working toward a simplified explanation of them for her. My plan was to guide her to an understanding of why it's so important to choose sources of meat from people who raise humanely. Guess what?!? She skipped a step and decided last week that she would no longer eat animals. Of course, we chuckled, but she is sticking to her guns. So I remembered a mom on this list whose son also chose to become vegetarian. Questions to her: where are you finding recipes? How are you explaining nutritional needs? And is the rest of your family omnivorous? If so, how are you handling meals?

Cathy



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marji

At 09:38 8/19/02 -0700, Cathy wrote:
>On the subject of circuses and animal exploitation, I've spent the summer
>trying to teach my dd (4) where her meals come from (she asks constantly
>"what animal is this" at each meal).

You and your daughter are so cool!

>I'm so strongly against Confined Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) and I
>was working toward a simplified explanation of them for her. My plan was
>to guide her to an understanding of why it's so important to choose
>sources of meat from people who raise humanely. Guess what?!? She
>skipped a step and decided last week that she would no longer eat animals.

(yay!)

>Of course, we chuckled, but she is sticking to her guns. So I remembered
>a mom on this list whose son also chose to become vegetarian. Questions
>to her: where are you finding recipes? How are you explaining
>nutritional needs? And is the rest of your family omnivorous? If so, how
>are you handling meals?

Hi Cathy!

I first found out that there was such a thing as "vegetarian" when I was
13, but I didn't have the guts to cut out meat until I was 15. I did a
tremendous amount of reading about it back then (at first it was an ethical
choice but later, after doing a lot of reading, I realized that it was a
big-time health issue also). I took a lot of grief from my family back
then; they did not support me in my efforts and ribbed (no pun!) me quite a
bit. But, I stuck to my guns (as your amazing daughter is doing), and I
never took another bite of meat. It's been 30 years! Now, my mother and
sister are adopting a vegetarian lifestyle to deal with serious health
issues they face. I'm honored and grateful to be able to be their "coach."

You and your daughter can learn quite a bit about ethical vegetarianism,
but I would strongly recommend that you filter the information through you
rather than allowing her to discover this with you; there are some horrific
things that are done to animals in the farm industry. Here are a couple
of web sites to get you started with dietary choices.

http://www.tryvegan.com/intro.php These folks offer a free vegan starter
kit, and they will be happy to mail it to you on request. But you can also
view it online in its entirety.

http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack/foods.html

http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack/recipes.html (this page has a
bunch of great recipes and also an article entitled "Do You Really Need a
Recipe?"

There is a ton of information out there, and these links are a good place
to start. Other folks will probably have a lot more information, too.

All the best,

Marji

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Gina Loree Marks

Dear Kathy,

I have a great cookbook called "Something for
Everyone" bt Carol Gelles, that gives 150 recipes,
each of which is a basic dish with a variation for
meat-eaters and vegetarians, so you don't have to cook
more than one dish. It's pretty cool!

Gina

Questions to her:
> where are you finding recipes? How are you
> explaining nutritional needs? And is the rest of
> your family omnivorous? If so, how are you handling
> meals?
>
> Cathy


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Tia Leschke

>And is the rest of your family omnivorous? If so, how are you handling
>meals?

I've cooked for a mixed family. We had lots of vegetarian meals. I made
chili and tacos and spaghetti without meat. Or I cooked meat separately
and the ones who wanted it could throw some in. It's a bit harder to do
casseroles, but my guys don't like them much anyway. If you cook the
traditional meat potatoes and vegies, you can just offer something like
cottage cheese or a tofu shake or something for the protein.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
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On Vancouver Island

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<Never? So if I can come up with *one* teacher who really is doing it "for
the children", your whole thesis is going to fall apart.>

I've got more than one.
Judy - a fabulous child-loving 1/2 grade teacher in Maryland
Michelle - another of the same
Robin - currently a SAHM who is a great teacher and worked with kids with
developmental delays.
Always and Never are words that make an argument inherently false.
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160

zenmomma *

>>Always and Never are words that make an argument inherently false.>>

Oh I agree. That's why I'm always careful to never use them. ;-)

Life is good.
~Mary


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