smushed blueberries
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In a message dated 8/16/02 10:21:35 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< For example, they know they can draw color to their hearts
content but don't waste paper. >>
But what you consider a waste of paper might be creativity at it's finest!!
I'm not berating you in the least, I am also downright coercive if it comes
to permanent messes or damaging property. But my kids are reasonable people
for the most part and understand when I explain why I don't want ______
broken or stained.
But paper?
I buy reams of it and I don't say anything about how much they use. I have
some very artistic kids and I think it's due to giving them access to
materials and not hording any of it.
I buy typing paper in large bundles, it's cheap and they can draw to their
hearts content.
I keep the expensive artist quality paper put away and they ask me for a
piece of that, but I never, ever suggest it's wasted if they throw a drawing
away.
I just give them another piece. They're aware that it costs more and try to
be careful. But I wouldn't want to limit art supplies. That's just me though,
and I do care about the environment....really.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< For example, they know they can draw color to their hearts
content but don't waste paper. >>
But what you consider a waste of paper might be creativity at it's finest!!
I'm not berating you in the least, I am also downright coercive if it comes
to permanent messes or damaging property. But my kids are reasonable people
for the most part and understand when I explain why I don't want ______
broken or stained.
But paper?
I buy reams of it and I don't say anything about how much they use. I have
some very artistic kids and I think it's due to giving them access to
materials and not hording any of it.
I buy typing paper in large bundles, it's cheap and they can draw to their
hearts content.
I keep the expensive artist quality paper put away and they ask me for a
piece of that, but I never, ever suggest it's wasted if they throw a drawing
away.
I just give them another piece. They're aware that it costs more and try to
be careful. But I wouldn't want to limit art supplies. That's just me though,
and I do care about the environment....really.
Ren
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We all need to care about the environment. Every cause has an effect. What
you do today will affect your children and their children tomorrow.
Kelly
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you do today will affect your children and their children tomorrow.
Kelly
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Alan & Brenda Leonard
I don't think there's anything wrong in this type of situation with telling
your kids that (1) you're angry about the mess and the wasted food, (2)
you're disappointed that because of their actions, no one will have
blueberries to eat, and (3) you expected better of them while you were out
of the room. A 3 year old may be young to make the right decision here, but
surely an 8 year old could help. I can't imagine that you were in the
shower for THAT long!)
Messes at my house are generally cleaned by the mess maker. To me, that's a
fair consequence. It discourages mess for the sake of making mess. We all
pitch in and help after big projects or accidents, though.
certain rooms would be worthwhile. I'd worry about bugs and stuff.
you're not neat, don't expect your kids to be, either. The other is
disrespect of property. Breaking toys, coloring on walls, mashing food.
There is a difference, but you may have to teach it to your kids.
If it helps to know that other people yell, I'm human, and sometimes I lose
it. I do try hard to express my feelings politely. I think it's hard to
ignore someone who looks you in the eyes and says, "I'm angry and
disappointed". I trust my child to learn, but he does need guidance to
become the kind of person I (and others) can respect and enjoy.
brenda
your kids that (1) you're angry about the mess and the wasted food, (2)
you're disappointed that because of their actions, no one will have
blueberries to eat, and (3) you expected better of them while you were out
of the room. A 3 year old may be young to make the right decision here, but
surely an 8 year old could help. I can't imagine that you were in the
shower for THAT long!)
Messes at my house are generally cleaned by the mess maker. To me, that's a
fair consequence. It discourages mess for the sake of making mess. We all
pitch in and help after big projects or accidents, though.
> has some sort of moldy, rotting food in a bag - stuffed under her bed orI hate to discourage creativity, but maybe limiting food consumption to
> somewhere out of sight - until we can smell it.
certain rooms would be worthwhile. I'd worry about bugs and stuff.
>My husband thinks I am not "structured" and they areThere's two issues here, as you describe it. One is neatness. And if
> learning by my example not to be neat
you're not neat, don't expect your kids to be, either. The other is
disrespect of property. Breaking toys, coloring on walls, mashing food.
There is a difference, but you may have to teach it to your kids.
If it helps to know that other people yell, I'm human, and sometimes I lose
it. I do try hard to express my feelings politely. I think it's hard to
ignore someone who looks you in the eyes and says, "I'm angry and
disappointed". I trust my child to learn, but he does need guidance to
become the kind of person I (and others) can respect and enjoy.
brenda
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In a message dated 8/16/02 1:12:47 PM, abtleo@... writes:
<< I don't think there's anything wrong in this type of situation with telling
your kids that (1) you're angry about the mess and the wasted food, (2)
you're disappointed that because of their actions, no one will have
blueberries to eat, and (3) you expected better of them while you were out
of the room. A 3 year old may be young to make the right decision here, but
surely an 8 year old could help. >>
Eight year olds should not be expected to control three year olds.
Moms can't always do it.
Eight year olds did not decide to have children. And it's too much
responsibility.
My mom used to leave me watching my sister who was only three and a half
years younger. That was wrong. My sister got badly hurt once because I
didn't know enough to say "no" about something dangerous. And I felt like it
was my fault, and that was a really heavy burden for me to bear until I got
old enough to realize it was entirely my mom's fault (it was an accident,
but...) and so my mom had allowed both me AND my sister harm (mine
psychological through heavy guilt for years).
Blaming the eight year old for the blueberry stain is no good either.
And being angry is too much. Anger at a child whose age can still be counted
in MONTHS??
The mom should find a way to clean the stain and serve blueberries in a bowl
with a spoon from now on, with homemade whipped cream, and sit and eat them
with the kids and say sweet things to them.
That's my best advice on this one.
Sandra
<< I don't think there's anything wrong in this type of situation with telling
your kids that (1) you're angry about the mess and the wasted food, (2)
you're disappointed that because of their actions, no one will have
blueberries to eat, and (3) you expected better of them while you were out
of the room. A 3 year old may be young to make the right decision here, but
surely an 8 year old could help. >>
Eight year olds should not be expected to control three year olds.
Moms can't always do it.
Eight year olds did not decide to have children. And it's too much
responsibility.
My mom used to leave me watching my sister who was only three and a half
years younger. That was wrong. My sister got badly hurt once because I
didn't know enough to say "no" about something dangerous. And I felt like it
was my fault, and that was a really heavy burden for me to bear until I got
old enough to realize it was entirely my mom's fault (it was an accident,
but...) and so my mom had allowed both me AND my sister harm (mine
psychological through heavy guilt for years).
Blaming the eight year old for the blueberry stain is no good either.
And being angry is too much. Anger at a child whose age can still be counted
in MONTHS??
The mom should find a way to clean the stain and serve blueberries in a bowl
with a spoon from now on, with homemade whipped cream, and sit and eat them
with the kids and say sweet things to them.
That's my best advice on this one.
Sandra