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Recently I was asked by a friend to watch his two children. His daughter is
16 months, doesn't walk, talk and is obviously still in diapers. (she is
slightly developmentally delayed) His son is 5 months. I have wavered back
and forth. (His wife met him at the door one day last week, handed the baby
to him, said "I need a break," and he hasn't seen her since.) I used to watch
my bestfriend's two children, her daughter is just 3 months younger than Jack
and her little boy is 22 months younger than her daughter. At one time I had
my two nursing, her two drinking the warmed up breast milk she stored in my
freezer, three in diapers and one in the process of potty training. I never
thought twice about loading them all up, going to the store or the park, or
carting them all around the library. It never occurred to me that life could
be any different with two toddlers or four. Not taking a shower until lunch
was over and everyone was asleep was standard for me. Board books, water
mats, finger paints, play-dough in the carpet, upchuck in my hair, I was
queen of my domain! I still had time to make a hearty soup and fresh bread
for all of us to enjoy at the end of the day, and my toilets sparkled. Why
now does the prospect of two more babies scare me? Now I can't imagine
including two little ones in all the activities my two are involved in. My
bestfriends kids are my kids, mine are hers. And although she and I don't see
eye to eye on the unschooling, we still support everything each other does. I
can't see myself taking my two and two babies to see her daughter dance, or
Moly act, or Jack to the skateboard park. Am I being selfish? I don't see
myself devoting large amounts of time to two new children and still giving
all the time I give now to my own kids. I feel like something would have to
give. How do those of you who still have babies at home find the time to *be*
and *do* with your older ones? I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as it
used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week used to
get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,
my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
~Nancy
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16 months, doesn't walk, talk and is obviously still in diapers. (she is
slightly developmentally delayed) His son is 5 months. I have wavered back
and forth. (His wife met him at the door one day last week, handed the baby
to him, said "I need a break," and he hasn't seen her since.) I used to watch
my bestfriend's two children, her daughter is just 3 months younger than Jack
and her little boy is 22 months younger than her daughter. At one time I had
my two nursing, her two drinking the warmed up breast milk she stored in my
freezer, three in diapers and one in the process of potty training. I never
thought twice about loading them all up, going to the store or the park, or
carting them all around the library. It never occurred to me that life could
be any different with two toddlers or four. Not taking a shower until lunch
was over and everyone was asleep was standard for me. Board books, water
mats, finger paints, play-dough in the carpet, upchuck in my hair, I was
queen of my domain! I still had time to make a hearty soup and fresh bread
for all of us to enjoy at the end of the day, and my toilets sparkled. Why
now does the prospect of two more babies scare me? Now I can't imagine
including two little ones in all the activities my two are involved in. My
bestfriends kids are my kids, mine are hers. And although she and I don't see
eye to eye on the unschooling, we still support everything each other does. I
can't see myself taking my two and two babies to see her daughter dance, or
Moly act, or Jack to the skateboard park. Am I being selfish? I don't see
myself devoting large amounts of time to two new children and still giving
all the time I give now to my own kids. I feel like something would have to
give. How do those of you who still have babies at home find the time to *be*
and *do* with your older ones? I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as it
used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week used to
get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,
my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
~Nancy
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Say NO.
It's ok to do.
If you have to tell them I won't let you. ;o)
BTW, a 16 month old usually is not potty trained, may not be walking and
probably won't talk much at all.
Max only did one out of the three which was walking and at 16 months, he had
only been walking for a few weeks. And if s/he was a preemie, the get a few
extra months anyway
(And we all know he's brilliant!)
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
It's ok to do.
If you have to tell them I won't let you. ;o)
BTW, a 16 month old usually is not potty trained, may not be walking and
probably won't talk much at all.
Max only did one out of the three which was walking and at 16 months, he had
only been walking for a few weeks. And if s/he was a preemie, the get a few
extra months anyway
(And we all know he's brilliant!)
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
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In a message dated 8/11/02 7:32:00 AM Central Daylight Time,
ElissaJC@... writes:
well. Jack didn't walk till he was 15 months, he didn't talk until way after
his second birthday, and then not well until he was past three. But we know
she is developmentally delayed. She just learned to sit up, she doesn't crawl
well yet, and she is very rigid. She lays in what I call the frog position,
on her back, legs bent at the hips and knees so that her legs are splayed
out, but her feet are close together, arms bent at the elbows, fist closed
and up by her head. She even keeps that position when sitting up, for the
first few minutes until she is sure she has her balance.
These are great, beautiful kids. I guess I just needed to rant, enough to
convince myself it was okay to say no. (I have a hard time with that.)
~Nancy
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ElissaJC@... writes:
> Say NO.Oh, I know 16 month olds aren't usually potty trained, walking or talking
> It's ok to do.
> If you have to tell them I won't let you. ;o)
> BTW, a 16 month old usually is not potty trained, may not be walking and
> probably won't talk much at all.
> Max only did one out of the three which was walking and at 16 months, he had
> only been walking for a few weeks. And if s/he was a preemie, the get a few
> extra months anyway
> (And we all know he's brilliant!)
> ~Elissa Cleaveland
well. Jack didn't walk till he was 15 months, he didn't talk until way after
his second birthday, and then not well until he was past three. But we know
she is developmentally delayed. She just learned to sit up, she doesn't crawl
well yet, and she is very rigid. She lays in what I call the frog position,
on her back, legs bent at the hips and knees so that her legs are splayed
out, but her feet are close together, arms bent at the elbows, fist closed
and up by her head. She even keeps that position when sitting up, for the
first few minutes until she is sure she has her balance.
These are great, beautiful kids. I guess I just needed to rant, enough to
convince myself it was okay to say no. (I have a hard time with that.)
~Nancy
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Fetteroll
on 8/10/02 11:48 PM, Dnowens@... at Dnowens@... wrote:
could all get together a schedule of taking the kids until he can find
something more permanent. That way no one person shoulders the whole burden.
Joyce
> I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,Would it be possible to coordinate a whole bunch of people for him? You
> my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
could all get together a schedule of taking the kids until he can find
something more permanent. That way no one person shoulders the whole burden.
Joyce
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I have two nephews and a niece that have "issues". It is very hard to watch
the difficulties they face and not want to sweep them up and take care of
them.
My niece is the best off, she is only sad about life. (!)
one dnephew has pretty severe issues steming from Fetal Alcohol syndrome,
his older brother has experienced sexual abuse, emotional abuse and has tons
of learning differences.
Their mother is a disgusting creature. I despise her. My Step-mom told me
that she has been panhandling in the intersections for money with a homeless
sign around her neck. She's hardly homeless She's a heroin addict and at the
end stages of Alcoholism. She's 36 years old and needs a liver transplant
yet can not be considered a good candidate because she drinks still.
My brother is so weak he enables her (Although she is not living with them
now, Thank goodness.)
Wow, what a vent. I have been faced with this daily since moving back to the
family compound.
We are living in a unit in the building my Dad lives in and my brother and
his kids live inthe building also.
His kids spend the majority of time in our tiny apartment, I am honored for
them to be so trusting of me. I just wish when we move to W.Va I could bring
the two who are here so much with us.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
the difficulties they face and not want to sweep them up and take care of
them.
My niece is the best off, she is only sad about life. (!)
one dnephew has pretty severe issues steming from Fetal Alcohol syndrome,
his older brother has experienced sexual abuse, emotional abuse and has tons
of learning differences.
Their mother is a disgusting creature. I despise her. My Step-mom told me
that she has been panhandling in the intersections for money with a homeless
sign around her neck. She's hardly homeless She's a heroin addict and at the
end stages of Alcoholism. She's 36 years old and needs a liver transplant
yet can not be considered a good candidate because she drinks still.
My brother is so weak he enables her (Although she is not living with them
now, Thank goodness.)
Wow, what a vent. I have been faced with this daily since moving back to the
family compound.
We are living in a unit in the building my Dad lives in and my brother and
his kids live inthe building also.
His kids spend the majority of time in our tiny apartment, I am honored for
them to be so trusting of me. I just wish when we move to W.Va I could bring
the two who are here so much with us.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
Jeff & Kate Kerr
I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as
it
used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week
used to
get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!"
but,
my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
~Nancy
First of all, I'm envious that your bathroom gets cleaned once a week,
mine gets "wiped down" by the kids once a week and a good cleaning from
either me or my husband every other week. As far as the bread goes, I
use a bread machine now. My father says that I must be the only person
in the world who actually uses their bread machine everyday, I'm not so
sure about that, but it sure has saved me a lot of time.
Now, as for watching other people's children. I did that for a year,
for a very good friend of mine. Our kids were close in age, I thought
that would help. They were going to school, so we really only had them
in the afternoon and on their days off. But it was hard. Most of our
days were cut in half because my kids and I would have to sit outside
their school waiting for them at 1:30 everyday. No longer could we go
to the beach for the day, or take off for the children's museum (we are
kind of culturally isolated here and need to travel for an hour for a
museum or the like). Besides that, since we unschooled and they didn't,
they would spend their afternoons doing homework (actually with me
reminding them that their mom wanted their homework done, while they
struggled with sitting there and not playing).
We don't watch them anymore, we still play with them a lot, but we were
starting not to like each other anymore. So the best decision for us
was to say no, sorry. I felt guilty for a while, I watched their mom
struggle with what to do with them, watched her dole out a lot of money
for a private school that would keep them extra hours. It was hard and
I felt bad. But we remained friends and I'm not sure we would have if I
had kept watching her kids.
And for the icing on the cake, they are now being homeschooled.
Kate
of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as
it
used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week
used to
get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!"
but,
my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
~Nancy
First of all, I'm envious that your bathroom gets cleaned once a week,
mine gets "wiped down" by the kids once a week and a good cleaning from
either me or my husband every other week. As far as the bread goes, I
use a bread machine now. My father says that I must be the only person
in the world who actually uses their bread machine everyday, I'm not so
sure about that, but it sure has saved me a lot of time.
Now, as for watching other people's children. I did that for a year,
for a very good friend of mine. Our kids were close in age, I thought
that would help. They were going to school, so we really only had them
in the afternoon and on their days off. But it was hard. Most of our
days were cut in half because my kids and I would have to sit outside
their school waiting for them at 1:30 everyday. No longer could we go
to the beach for the day, or take off for the children's museum (we are
kind of culturally isolated here and need to travel for an hour for a
museum or the like). Besides that, since we unschooled and they didn't,
they would spend their afternoons doing homework (actually with me
reminding them that their mom wanted their homework done, while they
struggled with sitting there and not playing).
We don't watch them anymore, we still play with them a lot, but we were
starting not to like each other anymore. So the best decision for us
was to say no, sorry. I felt guilty for a while, I watched their mom
struggle with what to do with them, watched her dole out a lot of money
for a private school that would keep them extra hours. It was hard and
I felt bad. But we remained friends and I'm not sure we would have if I
had kept watching her kids.
And for the icing on the cake, they are now being homeschooled.
Kate
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In a message dated 8/11/02 7:28:42 AM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< These are great, beautiful kids. I guess I just needed to rant, enough to
convince myself it was okay to say no. (I have a hard time with that.)
As someone whose parents raised two of my cousins, I hope for your children's
sake you won't say yes too easily. Yes, it was a generous and big-hearted
thing for my parents to do, but it wasn't always best for me and my sister.
I did NOT have a relationship with my sister until we were nearly grown,
because when we played or did or sat or whatever, she was with the younger
cousin and I was with the older cousin. Otherwise, I would have done lots of
things with my sister, but we didn't.
The ages were (in a snapshot moment):
Nada 11 months
ME 10 and four months
Nadine 8
Irene 7 (my sister)
It kept me from being the oldest. It made Irene the youngest of four instead
of the younger of two. Irene never had her own room, ever. (I had a
half-underground canning room for my room after I was 14, and it was better
than sharing, but it wasn't the real bedroom I would have had to myself the
whole time otherwise.)
Nadine sexually abused Irene. We didn't know until Irene was grown because
she was legitimately afraid to tell.
Sandra
<< These are great, beautiful kids. I guess I just needed to rant, enough to
convince myself it was okay to say no. (I have a hard time with that.)
>>Nancy,
As someone whose parents raised two of my cousins, I hope for your children's
sake you won't say yes too easily. Yes, it was a generous and big-hearted
thing for my parents to do, but it wasn't always best for me and my sister.
I did NOT have a relationship with my sister until we were nearly grown,
because when we played or did or sat or whatever, she was with the younger
cousin and I was with the older cousin. Otherwise, I would have done lots of
things with my sister, but we didn't.
The ages were (in a snapshot moment):
Nada 11 months
ME 10 and four months
Nadine 8
Irene 7 (my sister)
It kept me from being the oldest. It made Irene the youngest of four instead
of the younger of two. Irene never had her own room, ever. (I had a
half-underground canning room for my room after I was 14, and it was better
than sharing, but it wasn't the real bedroom I would have had to myself the
whole time otherwise.)
Nadine sexually abused Irene. We didn't know until Irene was grown because
she was legitimately afraid to tell.
Sandra
Louise Rynkewicz
For what it's worth Nancy this is my experience:
I have 3 children, ds (8), dd (4) and ds2 (2).
In order to stay home with my children I quit my career and took to providing home daycare. It was a great solution for several years. However, since I took my ds out of school 1.5yrs ago it has not been such an ideal situation.
For the first year or so I did the school-at-home approach which left my son free when the daycare girls got home from school. Now with an unschooling approach I find it very difficult to engage my children in any meaningful activity or conversation when the girls are around. Involving them doesn't work (maybe this is a product of them being in ps?). This has been a particular problem over the summer. So many great opportunities for my kids have had to take a backseat to allow me to be available to provide daycare. We can't go very far because we have to be there for someone to arrive or be picked up.
There has also been an issue with one of the girls pleading with her mother to homeschool her. She even asked if I could homeschool her! What does that tell you?
I have consoled myself with the thought that at least this is socialization for my kids. However, I find myself looking forward to the new school year when, at least for most of the day, I will have my kids to myself and can enjoy them and live our lives to the max.
My advice is, Nancy, that unless you absolutely HAVE to take on someone else's children it is probably wiser not to, especially if you are doing so out of a sense of duty or obligation. Think carefully of the effect it will have on you and your children. I liked the suggestion from Joyce that maybe you could coop their care and thus not be solely responsible.
Louise
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:48:48
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I have 3 children, ds (8), dd (4) and ds2 (2).
In order to stay home with my children I quit my career and took to providing home daycare. It was a great solution for several years. However, since I took my ds out of school 1.5yrs ago it has not been such an ideal situation.
For the first year or so I did the school-at-home approach which left my son free when the daycare girls got home from school. Now with an unschooling approach I find it very difficult to engage my children in any meaningful activity or conversation when the girls are around. Involving them doesn't work (maybe this is a product of them being in ps?). This has been a particular problem over the summer. So many great opportunities for my kids have had to take a backseat to allow me to be available to provide daycare. We can't go very far because we have to be there for someone to arrive or be picked up.
There has also been an issue with one of the girls pleading with her mother to homeschool her. She even asked if I could homeschool her! What does that tell you?
I have consoled myself with the thought that at least this is socialization for my kids. However, I find myself looking forward to the new school year when, at least for most of the day, I will have my kids to myself and can enjoy them and live our lives to the max.
My advice is, Nancy, that unless you absolutely HAVE to take on someone else's children it is probably wiser not to, especially if you are doing so out of a sense of duty or obligation. Think carefully of the effect it will have on you and your children. I liked the suggestion from Joyce that maybe you could coop their care and thus not be solely responsible.
Louise
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:48:48
Dnowens wrote:
>Recently I was asked by a friend to watch his two children. His daughter is__________________________________________________________
>16 months, doesn't walk, talk and is obviously still in diapers. (she is
>slightly developmentally delayed) His son is 5 months. I have wavered back
>and forth. (His wife met him at the door one day last week, handed the baby
>to him, said "I need a break," and he hasn't seen her since.) I used to watch
>my bestfriend's two children, her daughter is just 3 months younger than Jack
>and her little boy is 22 months younger than her daughter. At one time I had
>my two nursing, her two drinking the warmed up breast milk she stored in my
>freezer, three in diapers and one in the process of potty training. I never
>thought twice about loading them all up, going to the store or the park, or
>carting them all around the library. It never occurred to me that life could
>be any different with two toddlers or four. Not taking a shower until lunch
>was over and everyone was asleep was standard for me. Board books, water
>mats, finger paints, play-dough in the carpet, upchuck in my hair, I was
>queen of my domain! I still had time to make a hearty soup and fresh bread
>for all of us to enjoy at the end of the day, and my toilets sparkled. Why
>now does the prospect of two more babies scare me? Now I can't imagine
>including two little ones in all the activities my two are involved in. My
>bestfriends kids are my kids, mine are hers. And although she and I don't see
>eye to eye on the unschooling, we still support everything each other does. I
>can't see myself taking my two and two babies to see her daughter dance, or
>Moly act, or Jack to the skateboard park. Am I being selfish? I don't see
>myself devoting large amounts of time to two new children and still giving
>all the time I give now to my own kids. I feel like something would have to
>give. How do those of you who still have babies at home find the time to *be*
>and *do* with your older ones? I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
>of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as it
>used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
>sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week used to
>get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,
>my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
>~Nancy
>
>
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>
>
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I can imagine that having a home daycare is difficult -
For me - I can't wait until the neighborhood kids go back to school - although I have to say - I would rather have them all here than my kids somewhere else -
In any case - I sometimes feel like I would like to have my kids to myself. Anytime we set foot outside we are swarmed with the neighbors kids - they are back and forth over each other's houses - but sometimes I'd like to just do playdough - or whatever with my 3 - instead of 6. I guess I would make a really bad ps teacher :) can't imagine 30 at a time!
Heather
For me - I can't wait until the neighborhood kids go back to school - although I have to say - I would rather have them all here than my kids somewhere else -
In any case - I sometimes feel like I would like to have my kids to myself. Anytime we set foot outside we are swarmed with the neighbors kids - they are back and forth over each other's houses - but sometimes I'd like to just do playdough - or whatever with my 3 - instead of 6. I guess I would make a really bad ps teacher :) can't imagine 30 at a time!
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: Louise Rynkewicz
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Babies, unschooling and the rest of the family.
For what it's worth Nancy this is my experience:
I have 3 children, ds (8), dd (4) and ds2 (2).
In order to stay home with my children I quit my career and took to providing home daycare. It was a great solution for several years. However, since I took my ds out of school 1.5yrs ago it has not been such an ideal situation.
For the first year or so I did the school-at-home approach which left my son free when the daycare girls got home from school. Now with an unschooling approach I find it very difficult to engage my children in any meaningful activity or conversation when the girls are around. Involving them doesn't work (maybe this is a product of them being in ps?). This has been a particular problem over the summer. So many great opportunities for my kids have had to take a backseat to allow me to be available to provide daycare. We can't go very far because we have to be there for someone to arrive or be picked up.
There has also been an issue with one of the girls pleading with her mother to homeschool her. She even asked if I could homeschool her! What does that tell you?
I have consoled myself with the thought that at least this is socialization for my kids. However, I find myself looking forward to the new school year when, at least for most of the day, I will have my kids to myself and can enjoy them and live our lives to the max.
My advice is, Nancy, that unless you absolutely HAVE to take on someone else's children it is probably wiser not to, especially if you are doing so out of a sense of duty or obligation. Think carefully of the effect it will have on you and your children. I liked the suggestion from Joyce that maybe you could coop their care and thus not be solely responsible.
Louise
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:48:48
Dnowens wrote:
>Recently I was asked by a friend to watch his two children. His daughter is
>16 months, doesn't walk, talk and is obviously still in diapers. (she is
>slightly developmentally delayed) His son is 5 months. I have wavered back
>and forth. (His wife met him at the door one day last week, handed the baby
>to him, said "I need a break," and he hasn't seen her since.) I used to watch
>my bestfriend's two children, her daughter is just 3 months younger than Jack
>and her little boy is 22 months younger than her daughter. At one time I had
>my two nursing, her two drinking the warmed up breast milk she stored in my
>freezer, three in diapers and one in the process of potty training. I never
>thought twice about loading them all up, going to the store or the park, or
>carting them all around the library. It never occurred to me that life could
>be any different with two toddlers or four. Not taking a shower until lunch
>was over and everyone was asleep was standard for me. Board books, water
>mats, finger paints, play-dough in the carpet, upchuck in my hair, I was
>queen of my domain! I still had time to make a hearty soup and fresh bread
>for all of us to enjoy at the end of the day, and my toilets sparkled. Why
>now does the prospect of two more babies scare me? Now I can't imagine
>including two little ones in all the activities my two are involved in. My
>bestfriends kids are my kids, mine are hers. And although she and I don't see
>eye to eye on the unschooling, we still support everything each other does. I
>can't see myself taking my two and two babies to see her daughter dance, or
>Moly act, or Jack to the skateboard park. Am I being selfish? I don't see
>myself devoting large amounts of time to two new children and still giving
>all the time I give now to my own kids. I feel like something would have to
>give. How do those of you who still have babies at home find the time to *be*
>and *do* with your older ones? I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
>of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as it
>used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
>sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week used to
>get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,
>my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
>~Nancy
>
>
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>
>
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In a message dated 8/11/02 10:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
lrynkewicz@... writes:
day, Jack won't be able to walk or ride his bike to the community center for
his early morning Karate, and I won't have enough seat belts in the car for
two carseats, my kids, me and (sometimes) one or both of my bestfriends kids.
The only one old enough to leave at home for the 5 minute trip is Moly, and I
hate to do that. So I think I will take everyone's advice and not do what I
wish in my heart I could do, but know in my brain would be bad for my family.
Joyce had a good suggestion to help him co-op his child care and I know of
many low-income resources through the mother-to-mother program I volunteer
with. Most are for children and mothers, but I think I can help him get
around the mother part.
Thanks to all for listening to my vent! It really helps to bounce things off
better minds than mine! <g>
~Nancy
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lrynkewicz@... writes:
> For the first year or so I did the school-at-home approach which left my sonThis is exactly what I am afraid will happen. I am afraid it will be a snowy
> free when the daycare girls got home from school. Now with an unschooling
> approach I find it very difficult to engage my children in any meaningful
> activity or conversation when the girls are around. Involving them doesn't
> work (maybe this is a product of them being in ps?). This has been a
> particular problem over the summer. So many great opportunities for my kids
> have had to take a backseat to allow me to be available to provide daycare.
> We can't go very far because we have to be there for someone to arrive or
> be picked up.
>
day, Jack won't be able to walk or ride his bike to the community center for
his early morning Karate, and I won't have enough seat belts in the car for
two carseats, my kids, me and (sometimes) one or both of my bestfriends kids.
The only one old enough to leave at home for the 5 minute trip is Moly, and I
hate to do that. So I think I will take everyone's advice and not do what I
wish in my heart I could do, but know in my brain would be bad for my family.
Joyce had a good suggestion to help him co-op his child care and I know of
many low-income resources through the mother-to-mother program I volunteer
with. Most are for children and mothers, but I think I can help him get
around the mother part.
Thanks to all for listening to my vent! It really helps to bounce things off
better minds than mine! <g>
~Nancy
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In a message dated 8/11/02 10:16:47 PM, bacwoodz@... writes:
<< In any case - I sometimes feel like I would like to have my kids to
myself. >>
Last night it got quiet, and I said to Holly, "HEY! There is nobody in this
house who doesn't actually LIVE here!"
Worthy of comment, as it's rare. <g>
Sandra
<< In any case - I sometimes feel like I would like to have my kids to
myself. >>
Last night it got quiet, and I said to Holly, "HEY! There is nobody in this
house who doesn't actually LIVE here!"
Worthy of comment, as it's rare. <g>
Sandra
Heather Woodward
Last night it got quiet, and I said to Holly, "HEY! There is nobody in this
house who doesn't actually LIVE here!"
;) So it doesn't ever quiet down? - Well, I keep telling myself I'd rather have them all here - then my kids somewhere else... although I wasn't to happy when my 4 year old and his friend somehow made off with my digital camera into a "secret hiding place" that is so secret they can no longer find it! I guess you just have to laugh about it!
Heather
house who doesn't actually LIVE here!"
;) So it doesn't ever quiet down? - Well, I keep telling myself I'd rather have them all here - then my kids somewhere else... although I wasn't to happy when my 4 year old and his friend somehow made off with my digital camera into a "secret hiding place" that is so secret they can no longer find it! I guess you just have to laugh about it!
Heather
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Babies, unschooling and the rest of the family.
In a message dated 8/11/02 10:16:47 PM, bacwoodz@... writes:
<< In any case - I sometimes feel like I would like to have my kids to
myself. >>
Last night it got quiet, and I said to Holly, "HEY! There is nobody in this
house who doesn't actually LIVE here!"
Worthy of comment, as it's rare. <g>
Sandra
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