Luz Shosie and Ned Vare

on 8/9/02 10:48 AM, [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote:

> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:36:55 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: NEA vs homeschooling

Sandra wrote:
>> the NEA...pressed the idea that they were a professional
>> association, not a union. And administrators belonged.<<

Ned sez: The NEA was begun in about 1910 as a professional organization
interested in improving teaching methods and programs, but in about 1950, it
became a full-fledged labor union -- exactly like the NFT under the
Teamsters.

During its gradual change to union status, public school teaching went from
a dignified calling to a unionized jobs program dedicated to getting the
maximum money and other benefits for doing the least possible work. That's
what unions are about, in case people don't realize it. Whatever the NEA
tells the world about its being an org that supports teachers in their work
is a lie. Nothing that the union does improves education in the least.

During the same period in the early 1900s, women's opportunities greatly
expanded, so that bright women were no longer relegated to classrooms doing
boring chores, but were freer to become doctors, lawyers, writers,
executives, etc, leaving the public school system with a much lower
intellectual class than it previously enjoyed. That trend continues and is
accelerated today. Thus, the Dumbing of America.

Whatever helps the union and its members reduces the educational value of
the public school experience for the children trapped there.

Sandra again:
>>All the NEA has to do to SUPPORT homeschooling is to lobby for a change in
>> the way schools get their funding.<<

Ned, again:
Nonsense. If the NEA wanted to support homeschooling, it would find hundreds
of ways, but IT WANTS TO ELIMINATE HOMESCHOOLING instead, so it works night
and day to do that. This is not a conspiracy theory...go to the speeches
that they give to each other at their conventions. Look at how principals
and their clerks and minions treat parents who ask them about how to
homeschool their kids.

BTW, may we hear further about how Sandra would suggest schools change their
method of funding?

Ned Vare

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which is why we don't need the nea... maybe use all that money on teacher's salaries.. my theory has always beeen that if teachers were paid at least say.. 50 to 80 K .. the profession would gain prestige, more people would want to do it, teachers would get better, schools would get better.. and maybe my kids could even get something out of it..

L
Ned sez: The NEA was begun in about 1910 as a professional organization
interested in improving teaching methods and programs, but in about 1950, it
became a full-fledged labor union -- exactly like the NFT under the
Teamsters.

During its gradual change to union status, public school teaching went from
a dignified calling to a unionized jobs program dedicated to getting the
maximum money and other benefits for doing the least possible work. That's
what unions are about, in case people don't realize it. Whatever the NEA
tells the world about its being an org that supports teachers in their work
is a lie. Nothing that the union does improves education in the least.

During the same period in the early 1900s, women's opportunities greatly
expanded, so that bright women were no longer relegated to classrooms doing
boring chores, but were freer to become doctors, lawyers, writers,
executives, etc, leaving the public school system with a much lower
intellectual class than it previously enjoyed. That trend continues and is
accelerated today. Thus, the Dumbing of America.

Whatever helps the union and its members reduces the educational value of
the public school experience for the children trapped there.

Sandra again:
>>All the NEA has to do to SUPPORT homeschooling is to lobby for a change in
>> the way schools get their funding.<<

Ned, again:
Nonsense. If the NEA wanted to support homeschooling, it would find hundreds
of ways, but IT WANTS TO ELIMINATE HOMESCHOOLING instead, so it works night
and day to do that. This is not a conspiracy theory...go to the speeches
that they give to each other at their conventions. Look at how principals
and their clerks and minions treat parents who ask them about how to
homeschool their kids.

BTW, may we hear further about how Sandra would suggest schools change their
method of funding?

Ned Vare





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In a message dated 8/9/02 2:35:13 PM, nedvare@... writes:

<< BTW, may we hear further about how Sandra would suggest schools change
their
method of funding?
>>

The theory that schools hate homeschooling because we cost them money could
be undone if the taxes collected for schools were distributed some other way.
There are lots of other ways. If all the homeschooled kids in our little
area here and all the privately schooled kids were all in public school, that
would be some amount of money. If they calculated that and gave it to the
school regardless of who was enrolled, just by local kid-population, then my
having my kids out would lower the teacher/student ratio, allow those kids
more attention and less crowdedness. That wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.


If you say "nonsense" or start a libertarian rant, it won't help or change my
mind.

I didn't keep my children home to hurt the schools. I'm very sorry that the
classes remain at 28 and 30 kids instead of being smaller classes as more kid
s stay home or go to private school.

Sandra