For your own good, be positive and helpful
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In a message dated 8/9/02 7:08:02 AM, FoxgloveStudio@... writes:
<< Perhaps she should seek out the "Get a sense of Humor" or the "Get a Life"
lists. >>
I have both a big busy life and a good sense of humor. What I just don't
have is tolerance for a barrage of negativity based on sky-is-falling
falsehoods. Partial truth isn't truth. Mostly truth isn't truth. A
pitcher of lemonade with even a little turd in it is... not "mostly
lemonade."
Last night I was moving files from my old computer to a new one and came to
"the unschooling barrage," which was a set of about a dozen e-mails people
used to request to read to find out about unschooling. For years and years
the best sources of information were infrequent magazines, newsgroups and
just a couple of online bulletin boards. The internet wasn't very useful
yet, and to read an article you had to download it slowly onto your computer.
Everything seemed dusty, and it was slow.
The information in that barrage was pretty valuable and it convinced people
that unschooling could work.
Today, though, anyone with internet access can get that much information in
an hour, with color pictures, and can bookmark the pages to get back to
later. Those with questions can go to www.unschooling.com and have answers
in minutes or hours. State law and policies and associations can be found in
moments.
That's all good for beginners. But there is a depth to unschooling which
isn't downloadable or bookmarkable. Those who unschool for a couple of years
don't need it. Those who do it for life come to hurdles and slumps and
problems and they can use the help of others who have experienced those
fears and situations. I've been involved in online homeschooling discussions
since Kirby was five. He's sixteen now, and two other children are
following behind him who haven't been to school and haven't been "schooled."
There are other people online, in various discussion groups, whose kids had
no school, or a little, or lots of damaging school, and they're volunteering
time and effort to help others unschool peacefully.
I have never been on political discussion lists. Some are very political.
Some are specifically about homeschooling laws and policies and watchdog
groups about HSLDA situations, and on and on. That's not my interest.
www.unschooling.com isn't a political forum. It's about how unschooling can
work.
This discussion list is associated with www.unschooling.com and I've been
involved with that forum since it began. I'm not the list owner, but the
list owner has asked twice for it not to turn into school-bashing. I'm not
the moderator, but moderator is trying to avoid the negativity which will
keep this from being a haven for unschoolers.
So why pick on me?
Sandra
<< Perhaps she should seek out the "Get a sense of Humor" or the "Get a Life"
lists. >>
I have both a big busy life and a good sense of humor. What I just don't
have is tolerance for a barrage of negativity based on sky-is-falling
falsehoods. Partial truth isn't truth. Mostly truth isn't truth. A
pitcher of lemonade with even a little turd in it is... not "mostly
lemonade."
Last night I was moving files from my old computer to a new one and came to
"the unschooling barrage," which was a set of about a dozen e-mails people
used to request to read to find out about unschooling. For years and years
the best sources of information were infrequent magazines, newsgroups and
just a couple of online bulletin boards. The internet wasn't very useful
yet, and to read an article you had to download it slowly onto your computer.
Everything seemed dusty, and it was slow.
The information in that barrage was pretty valuable and it convinced people
that unschooling could work.
Today, though, anyone with internet access can get that much information in
an hour, with color pictures, and can bookmark the pages to get back to
later. Those with questions can go to www.unschooling.com and have answers
in minutes or hours. State law and policies and associations can be found in
moments.
That's all good for beginners. But there is a depth to unschooling which
isn't downloadable or bookmarkable. Those who unschool for a couple of years
don't need it. Those who do it for life come to hurdles and slumps and
problems and they can use the help of others who have experienced those
fears and situations. I've been involved in online homeschooling discussions
since Kirby was five. He's sixteen now, and two other children are
following behind him who haven't been to school and haven't been "schooled."
There are other people online, in various discussion groups, whose kids had
no school, or a little, or lots of damaging school, and they're volunteering
time and effort to help others unschool peacefully.
I have never been on political discussion lists. Some are very political.
Some are specifically about homeschooling laws and policies and watchdog
groups about HSLDA situations, and on and on. That's not my interest.
www.unschooling.com isn't a political forum. It's about how unschooling can
work.
This discussion list is associated with www.unschooling.com and I've been
involved with that forum since it began. I'm not the list owner, but the
list owner has asked twice for it not to turn into school-bashing. I'm not
the moderator, but moderator is trying to avoid the negativity which will
keep this from being a haven for unschoolers.
So why pick on me?
Sandra
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hey. i think there is room for all of us.. ned's stuff is very interesting ... and i find it fun to read.. sandra takes us back to some reality.. bob likes to get belligerant and has a lot of facts.. so do a lot of other people.. everyone.. keep it up..i enjoy this list very much.. (in fact spending too much time on it.. i should be in the other room painting and continuing to get moved in here.)
LLL
LLL
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] For your own good, be positive and helpful
In a message dated 8/9/02 7:08:02 AM, FoxgloveStudio@... writes:
<< Perhaps she should seek out the "Get a sense of Humor" or the "Get a Life"
lists. >>
I have both a big busy life and a good sense of humor. What I just don't
have is tolerance for a barrage of negativity based on sky-is-falling
falsehoods. Partial truth isn't truth. Mostly truth isn't truth. A
pitcher of lemonade with even a little turd in it is... not "mostly
lemonade."
Last night I was moving files from my old computer to a new one and came to
"the unschooling barrage," which was a set of about a dozen e-mails people
used to request to read to find out about unschooling. For years and years
the best sources of information were infrequent magazines, newsgroups and
just a couple of online bulletin boards. The internet wasn't very useful
yet, and to read an article you had to download it slowly onto your computer.
Everything seemed dusty, and it was slow.
The information in that barrage was pretty valuable and it convinced people
that unschooling could work.
Today, though, anyone with internet access can get that much information in
an hour, with color pictures, and can bookmark the pages to get back to
later. Those with questions can go to www.unschooling.com and have answers
in minutes or hours. State law and policies and associations can be found in
moments.
That's all good for beginners. But there is a depth to unschooling which
isn't downloadable or bookmarkable. Those who unschool for a couple of years
don't need it. Those who do it for life come to hurdles and slumps and
problems and they can use the help of others who have experienced those
fears and situations. I've been involved in online homeschooling discussions
since Kirby was five. He's sixteen now, and two other children are
following behind him who haven't been to school and haven't been "schooled."
There are other people online, in various discussion groups, whose kids had
no school, or a little, or lots of damaging school, and they're volunteering
time and effort to help others unschool peacefully.
I have never been on political discussion lists. Some are very political.
Some are specifically about homeschooling laws and policies and watchdog
groups about HSLDA situations, and on and on. That's not my interest.
www.unschooling.com isn't a political forum. It's about how unschooling can
work.
This discussion list is associated with www.unschooling.com and I've been
involved with that forum since it began. I'm not the list owner, but the
list owner has asked twice for it not to turn into school-bashing. I'm not
the moderator, but moderator is trying to avoid the negativity which will
keep this from being a haven for unschoolers.
So why pick on me?
Sandra
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zenmomma *
>>hey. i think there is room for all of us.. ned's stuff is very interestingAnd LLL is very cool, funny, forgiving and accepting of differences. Thanks
>>... and i find it fun to read.. sandra takes us back to some reality.. bob
>>likes to get belligerant and has a lot of facts.. >>
for modelling some good list behavior for me. :o)
Life is good.
~Mary
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In a message dated 8/9/2002 11:06:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
llindsey3@... writes:
too much time here lately. The other day I had to be at my computer for
another reason and decided to drop in at the list (I changed my yahoo
settings to receive the mail individually), and found myself getting totally
caught up in the discussions as you can well see. But had you been in the
presence of yours truly when I flew off the handle, you would have been less
than horrified. Instead, I'm more like Woody Allen when he gets wigged out
over stuff. Really.
Bob
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llindsey3@... writes:
> bob likes to get belligerant and has a lot of facts.. so do a lot of otherI don't get belligerent! Just angry and bewildered! And I too have spent far
> people.. everyone.. keep it up..i enjoy this list very much.. (in fact
> spending too much time on it.. i should be in the other room painting and
> continuing to get moved in here.)
too much time here lately. The other day I had to be at my computer for
another reason and decided to drop in at the list (I changed my yahoo
settings to receive the mail individually), and found myself getting totally
caught up in the discussions as you can well see. But had you been in the
presence of yours truly when I flew off the handle, you would have been less
than horrified. Instead, I'm more like Woody Allen when he gets wigged out
over stuff. Really.
Bob
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i'm saving this email.. printing it out.. putting it on my wall and showing my kids.. and my soon-to-be-X husband..
mary i love you..
(and the check's in the mail)
LLL
mary i love you..
(and the check's in the mail)
LLL
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From: zenmomma *
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] For your own good, be positive and helpful
>>hey. i think there is room for all of us.. ned's stuff is very interesting
>>... and i find it fun to read.. sandra takes us back to some reality.. bob
>>likes to get belligerant and has a lot of facts.. >>
And LLL is very cool, funny, forgiving and accepting of differences. Thanks
for modelling some good list behavior for me. :o)
Life is good.
~Mary
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sorry, you're right.. belligerent is too harsh a word.. not to mention difficult to spell.
angry and bewildered.. okay.. bob gets angry and bewildered.. i'm sorry, tho that you get lost trying to keep up with the multitude and complexity of our various convictions here..
Linda L Lindsey
angry and bewildered.. okay.. bob gets angry and bewildered.. i'm sorry, tho that you get lost trying to keep up with the multitude and complexity of our various convictions here..
Linda L Lindsey
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From: rsale515@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] For your own good, be positive and helpful
In a message dated 8/9/2002 11:06:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
llindsey3@... writes:
> bob likes to get belligerant and has a lot of facts.. so do a lot of other
> people.. everyone.. keep it up..i enjoy this list very much.. (in fact
> spending too much time on it.. i should be in the other room painting and
> continuing to get moved in here.)
I don't get belligerent! Just angry and bewildered! And I too have spent far
too much time here lately. The other day I had to be at my computer for
another reason and decided to drop in at the list (I changed my yahoo
settings to receive the mail individually), and found myself getting totally
caught up in the discussions as you can well see. But had you been in the
presence of yours truly when I flew off the handle, you would have been less
than horrified. Instead, I'm more like Woody Allen when he gets wigged out
over stuff. Really.
Bob
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