Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Compulsary education at younger and younger ages
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In a message dated 7/2/02 12:19:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
debra@... writes:
Jack went to school last year, they didn't call any snow days, and we had a
few that needed to be called. In the district we live in the kids walk to
school if they live 2 miles or less from the school. Many of these kids had
to walk through this. I was so pissed when I took Jack to school and saw all
these kids walking. I was ticked already because I had to go out in the
weather... (I guess I didn't HAVE to, but...) I made a statement to the
principal and she informed me that these kids have no where else to go. The
district had set specific standards on snow depth, wind chill factor and
temperature in dealing with snow days. She told me that many of the children
would get their only hot meal of the day at school and if there was no
school, there would be no food. She also informed me that many children would
be left alone if there was no school, and how would I feel about a 5 year old
being left alone all day? I informed her I was all for the hot meals and the
oh so wonderful baby-sitting service the district provided to the poor in our
community, but what good would it all do if the kids were frozen to death! (I
don't think she liked me much <g>)
Any way, movements to lower the mandatory attendance age, removing snow days,
lengthening the school day are all part of the governments fingers grasping
at our children.
Then there are all the things done in the name of Brown here in my town that
really flabbergasts me!
~Nancy
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debra@... writes:
> There is now a move afoot in Washington DC to make 3 the ageI think there are movements all over the country for things like this. When
> for compulsory education for the District (not nationally).
>
> Debra
Jack went to school last year, they didn't call any snow days, and we had a
few that needed to be called. In the district we live in the kids walk to
school if they live 2 miles or less from the school. Many of these kids had
to walk through this. I was so pissed when I took Jack to school and saw all
these kids walking. I was ticked already because I had to go out in the
weather... (I guess I didn't HAVE to, but...) I made a statement to the
principal and she informed me that these kids have no where else to go. The
district had set specific standards on snow depth, wind chill factor and
temperature in dealing with snow days. She told me that many of the children
would get their only hot meal of the day at school and if there was no
school, there would be no food. She also informed me that many children would
be left alone if there was no school, and how would I feel about a 5 year old
being left alone all day? I informed her I was all for the hot meals and the
oh so wonderful baby-sitting service the district provided to the poor in our
community, but what good would it all do if the kids were frozen to death! (I
don't think she liked me much <g>)
Any way, movements to lower the mandatory attendance age, removing snow days,
lengthening the school day are all part of the governments fingers grasping
at our children.
Then there are all the things done in the name of Brown here in my town that
really flabbergasts me!
~Nancy
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Debra Kattler
There is now a move afoot in Washington DC to make 3 the age
for compulsory education for the District (not nationally).
Debra
louisam1@... wrote:
for compulsory education for the District (not nationally).
Debra
louisam1@... wrote:
> <<What gets me is that preschool used to be a voluntary[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> thing some people
> did
> as a way to get kids used to the idea of going to school.
> >>
>
> That is what KINDERGARTEN was supposed to be, what they
> tell us preschool
> is for now. How much younger will they go in conditioning
> these babies
> for entrance into the state system? I'm waiting to see
> the day the
> public school system sends an agent into hospital delivery
> rooms in order
> to affix the state's mark of ownership on newborns.
>
> Kris
Tia Leschke
>The examples above sound to me more like parents wanting more free
>Any way, movements to lower the mandatory attendance age, removing snow days,
>lengthening the school day are all part of the governments fingers grasping
>at our children.
baby-sitting, etc., though I do believe the government thinks it can raise
our kids better than we can.
>Then there are all the things done in the name of Brown here in my town thatHuh?
>really flabbergasts me!
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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In a message dated 7/2/02 5:01:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:
courts have finally decided it for us. ~Nancy
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leschke@... writes:
> >Then there are all the things done in the name of Brown here in my town thatBrown vs. The board of education. Land mark case. Supposedly the Denver
> >really flabbergasts me!
>
> Huh?
> Tia
courts have finally decided it for us. ~Nancy
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In a message dated 7/2/02 4:00:56 PM, leschke@... writes:
<< The examples above sound to me more like parents wanting more free
baby-sitting, etc., though I do believe the government thinks it can raise
our kids better than we can. >>
It's not the government. It's teachers' unions (NEA primarily) pushing for
more members, more jobs, more power. The early childhood education programs
have been cranking out quickie degrees for several years, and their graduates
are told compulsory childhood ed is coming, it's just a matter of time. And
lots of them open private preschools, and parents pay big bucks, and those
who can't pay feel behind, and those who can pay might rather not pay, and so
they will appeal to the government to help them.
Sandra
<< The examples above sound to me more like parents wanting more free
baby-sitting, etc., though I do believe the government thinks it can raise
our kids better than we can. >>
It's not the government. It's teachers' unions (NEA primarily) pushing for
more members, more jobs, more power. The early childhood education programs
have been cranking out quickie degrees for several years, and their graduates
are told compulsory childhood ed is coming, it's just a matter of time. And
lots of them open private preschools, and parents pay big bucks, and those
who can't pay feel behind, and those who can pay might rather not pay, and so
they will appeal to the government to help them.
Sandra