Re:life learning
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>>> There are so many skills that are necessary for a society. Yetmany of
us want it to be someone else's kids who grow up to: put up drywall, lay
tile, deliver mail, maintain and repair autos, cut hair, etc. This way
of
thinking seems exploitive to me. We do want SOMEONE to do these things
because they are badly needed. But if we don't value these jobs and
think of
them as undesireable, it seems like we are using these people. Does this
make any sense?
Lucy>>>
YES!! I've had a similar discussion with my mom and she can't get away
from thinking that doctors and lawyers are "smarter" than auto mechanics.
I heard a homeschooling mother say she's hs'ing so her kids won't grow
up to be hairdressers. If I had a child who loved doing things to hair,
I'd be thrilled for them to make a career of it. I hope my children
will *enjoy* whatever thing they choose to spend most of their time
doing. Not that it will always be easy or fun, but that overall it will
give them pleasure.
PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
important!
Mary Ellen
If you want to do everything yourself,
insist on being the only one who can do it right.
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>>> So do I let him follow his desires or do I cram multiplication athim?
Laura>>>
Read The Teenage Liberation Handbook (you, not him). This may help put
things in perspective.
Mary Ellen
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insist on being the only one who can do it right.
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In a message dated 10/15/99 11:00:00 AM EST, megates@... writes:
<< PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
important! >>
If that's not the reason, it could be due to the money they make! ha ha!
Lori in TX
<< PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
important! >>
If that's not the reason, it could be due to the money they make! ha ha!
Lori in TX
Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst
You know, after graduating college.....the only one amongst 5 siblings in
my family of origin to do so......I have earned the LOWEST amount of money.
In addition, after becoming a homeowner, I SO value skills that are
hands - on!!! There are many types of intelligence. Hope we (a societal
'we') can learn to respect them all!!
Suz
Who is very book smart, but needs to develop hands-on intelligence
-----Original Message-----
From: megates@... <megates@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
my family of origin to do so......I have earned the LOWEST amount of money.
In addition, after becoming a homeowner, I SO value skills that are
hands - on!!! There are many types of intelligence. Hope we (a societal
'we') can learn to respect them all!!
Suz
Who is very book smart, but needs to develop hands-on intelligence
-----Original Message-----
From: megates@... <megates@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
>From: megates@...
>
> >>> There are so many skills that are necessary for a society. Yet
>many of
>us want it to be someone else's kids who grow up to: put up drywall, lay
>tile, deliver mail, maintain and repair autos, cut hair, etc. This way
>of
>thinking seems exploitive to me. We do want SOMEONE to do these things
>because they are badly needed. But if we don't value these jobs and
>think of
>them as undesireable, it seems like we are using these people. Does this
>
>make any sense?
> Lucy>>>
>
>YES!! I've had a similar discussion with my mom and she can't get away
>from thinking that doctors and lawyers are "smarter" than auto mechanics.
> I heard a homeschooling mother say she's hs'ing so her kids won't grow
>up to be hairdressers. If I had a child who loved doing things to hair,
>I'd be thrilled for them to make a career of it. I hope my children
>will *enjoy* whatever thing they choose to spend most of their time
>doing. Not that it will always be easy or fun, but that overall it will
>give them pleasure.
>
>PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
>group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
>important!
>Mary Ellen
>If you want to do everything yourself,
>insist on being the only one who can do it right.
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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>
Sandy Kent
I have always admired people who could do things well with their hands or their minds. I think our low opinions about people who do manual labor comes from the fact that it is getting increasingly more difficult to find the ones who do their work because they love it and not because they have no other option. There is nothing wrong with being a carpenter unless you do it because this was the only job you could get. It is the same way with people who get their MBA's only because they think they will make more money.
Sandy
Sandy
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
From: "Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst" <fuerst@...>
You know, after graduating college.....the only one amongst 5 siblings in
my family of origin to do so......I have earned the LOWEST amount of money.
In addition, after becoming a homeowner, I SO value skills that are
hands - on!!! There are many types of intelligence. Hope we (a societal
'we') can learn to respect them all!!
Suz
Who is very book smart, but needs to develop hands-on intelligence
-----Original Message-----
From: megates@... <megates@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
>From: megates@...
>
> >>> There are so many skills that are necessary for a society. Yet
>many of
>us want it to be someone else's kids who grow up to: put up drywall, lay
>tile, deliver mail, maintain and repair autos, cut hair, etc. This way
>of
>thinking seems exploitive to me. We do want SOMEONE to do these things
>because they are badly needed. But if we don't value these jobs and
>think of
>them as undesireable, it seems like we are using these people. Does this
>
>make any sense?
> Lucy>>>
>
>YES!! I've had a similar discussion with my mom and she can't get away
>from thinking that doctors and lawyers are "smarter" than auto mechanics.
> I heard a homeschooling mother say she's hs'ing so her kids won't grow
>up to be hairdressers. If I had a child who loved doing things to hair,
>I'd be thrilled for them to make a career of it. I hope my children
>will *enjoy* whatever thing they choose to spend most of their time
>doing. Not that it will always be easy or fun, but that overall it will
>give them pleasure.
>
>PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
>group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
>important!
>Mary Ellen
>If you want to do everything yourself,
>insist on being the only one who can do it right.
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Get the Internet just the way you want it.
>Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
>Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
>>Check it out!
>http://www.unschooling.com
>
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In a message dated 10/15/99 11:57:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
megates@... writes:
<< Read The Teenage Liberation Handbook (you, not him). This may help put
things in perspective. >>
I already have, that and every hs book I could put my hands on. Also many
books on learning and education. It's easy when I do what my heart says, then
my mind says "but what if?" (he has to go back to school, I die, LOL)
Laura
megates@... writes:
<< Read The Teenage Liberation Handbook (you, not him). This may help put
things in perspective. >>
I already have, that and every hs book I could put my hands on. Also many
books on learning and education. It's easy when I do what my heart says, then
my mind says "but what if?" (he has to go back to school, I die, LOL)
Laura
Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst
How right you are!!
Suz
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Kent <kentsx3@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
I have always admired people who could do things well with their hands or their minds. I think our low opinions about people who do manual labor comes from the fact that it is getting increasingly more difficult to find the ones who do their work because they love it and not because they have no other option. There is nothing wrong with being a carpenter unless you do it because this was the only job you could get. It is the same way with people who get their MBA's only because they think they will make more money.
Sandy
Suz
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Kent <kentsx3@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
I have always admired people who could do things well with their hands or their minds. I think our low opinions about people who do manual labor comes from the fact that it is getting increasingly more difficult to find the ones who do their work because they love it and not because they have no other option. There is nothing wrong with being a carpenter unless you do it because this was the only job you could get. It is the same way with people who get their MBA's only because they think they will make more money.
Sandy
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
From: "Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst" <fuerst@...>
You know, after graduating college.....the only one amongst 5 siblings in
my family of origin to do so......I have earned the LOWEST amount of money.
In addition, after becoming a homeowner, I SO value skills that are
hands - on!!! There are many types of intelligence. Hope we (a societal
'we') can learn to respect them all!!
Suz
Who is very book smart, but needs to develop hands-on intelligence
-----Original Message-----
From: megates@... <megates@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re:life learning
>From: megates@...
>
> >>> There are so many skills that are necessary for a society. Yet
>many of
>us want it to be someone else's kids who grow up to: put up drywall, lay
>tile, deliver mail, maintain and repair autos, cut hair, etc. This way
>of
>thinking seems exploitive to me. We do want SOMEONE to do these things
>because they are badly needed. But if we don't value these jobs and
>think of
>them as undesireable, it seems like we are using these people. Does this
>
>make any sense?
> Lucy>>>
>
>YES!! I've had a similar discussion with my mom and she can't get away
>from thinking that doctors and lawyers are "smarter" than auto mechanics.
> I heard a homeschooling mother say she's hs'ing so her kids won't grow
>up to be hairdressers. If I had a child who loved doing things to hair,
>I'd be thrilled for them to make a career of it. I hope my children
>will *enjoy* whatever thing they choose to spend most of their time
>doing. Not that it will always be easy or fun, but that overall it will
>give them pleasure.
>
>PS don't know if it's true, but I heard once that garbage collecters as a
>group have a high level of job satisfaction bc they know their job is so
>important!
>Mary Ellen
>If you want to do everything yourself,
>insist on being the only one who can do it right.
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Get the Internet just the way you want it.
>Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
>Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
>>Check it out!
>http://www.unschooling.com
>
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