New Study Shows ADHD Useful
Ricka Gerstmann
Hi all:
While researching new historical novels (of all things), I happened upon
this study. My apologies if someone has already posted it. I've been too
busy to keep up with my email groups for several weeks:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/4/prweb36976.php along with links to the
original study.
--
Ricka Gerstmann
http://www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com
While researching new historical novels (of all things), I happened upon
this study. My apologies if someone has already posted it. I've been too
busy to keep up with my email groups for several weeks:
> The main gene that influences Attention Deficit Disorder is a relativelyYou'll find the article here:
> recent evolutionary leap that happened during known human hunter/gatherer
> times, according to internationally known ADHD author and psychotherapist Thom
> Hartmann. The latest study, just published in the January 8, 2002 edition of
> the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United
> States of America, found that while most of the gene that encodes for novelty
> seeking and other behaviors is about 300,000 years old, the variation of it
> that is carried by most people with ADHD is only 30,000 to 50,000 years old.
> And they found that it was a positive adaptation, meaning it was useful in the
> history of humans.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/4/prweb36976.php along with links to the
original study.
--
Ricka Gerstmann
http://www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com
Diane
Does anybody else beleive that genetics is a great way of passing the buck? A
really neat quote comes from a rather sinister but competant hypnotherapist named
Richard Bandler who wrote in Frogs to Princes (Pg. 32), 1979, Real People Press
(ISBN 0-911226-18-4):
"There is something now that they are imposing upon children called "learning
disabilities." Many of these "learning disabilities" are really functions of the
educational system. For example I was given a bunch of children who fell in the
classification of "Crossed Hemispheres" and they told me that this was something
that existed in the world. They wanted me to find out if there was any difference
between these children and the rest of them, given accessing cues and so on. What I
discovered was they were all children who were trying to spell auditorily. ... I
ask the children what they were doing and they said "Sounding the word out," because
they were taught to spell phonetically. You can't even spell "Phonetics"
Phonetically!"
Bill (Not Diane)
Ricka Gerstmann wrote:
really neat quote comes from a rather sinister but competant hypnotherapist named
Richard Bandler who wrote in Frogs to Princes (Pg. 32), 1979, Real People Press
(ISBN 0-911226-18-4):
"There is something now that they are imposing upon children called "learning
disabilities." Many of these "learning disabilities" are really functions of the
educational system. For example I was given a bunch of children who fell in the
classification of "Crossed Hemispheres" and they told me that this was something
that existed in the world. They wanted me to find out if there was any difference
between these children and the rest of them, given accessing cues and so on. What I
discovered was they were all children who were trying to spell auditorily. ... I
ask the children what they were doing and they said "Sounding the word out," because
they were taught to spell phonetically. You can't even spell "Phonetics"
Phonetically!"
Bill (Not Diane)
Ricka Gerstmann wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> While researching new historical novels (of all things), I happened upon
> this study. My apologies if someone has already posted it. I've been too
> busy to keep up with my email groups for several weeks:
>
> > The main gene that influences Attention Deficit Disorder is a relatively
> > recent evolutionary leap that happened during known human hunter/gatherer
> > times, according to internationally known ADHD author and psychotherapist Thom
> > Hartmann. The latest study, just published in the January 8, 2002 edition of
> > the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United
> > States of America, found that while most of the gene that encodes for novelty
> > seeking and other behaviors is about 300,000 years old, the variation of it
> > that is carried by most people with ADHD is only 30,000 to 50,000 years old.
> > And they found that it was a positive adaptation, meaning it was useful in the
> > history of humans.
>
> You'll find the article here:
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/4/prweb36976.php along with links to the
> original study.
>
> --
> Ricka Gerstmann
> http://www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com
>
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Tia Leschke
At 10:50 AM 21/06/2002 -0700, you wrote:
novels (my favourite kind of fiction) to a study about adhd?
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
>Hi all:Ok, now you've got my curiosity going. How did you get from historical
>
>While researching new historical novels (of all things), I happened upon
>this study.
novels (my favourite kind of fiction) to a study about adhd?
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
The Resourceful Homeschooler
> Ok, now you've got my curiosity going. How did you get from historicalYou know Google. I was looking for a writer named Dale Smith who is supposed
> novels (my favourite kind of fiction) to a study about adhd?
> Tia
to live in the Portland, OR area. One link was for a college professor's
book release, and I wound up on that college PR site. Of course, the study
immediately caught my attention. I still haven't tracked down Dale Smith, of
course.
The person who told me they like Dale Smith's work was selling a phonics
reading program at the booth next to mine at the Washington Homeschooler
Assoiciation's conference. He seemed like a nice man, but he was clearly
nonplussed by the very idea of unschooling. I always follow up on these
suggestions because you never know where a good idea is going to come from.
Ricka Gerstmann
http://www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/23/02 8:06:20 AM, rickag@... writes:
<< The person who told me they like Dale Smith's work was selling a phonics
reading program at the booth next to mine at the Washington Homeschooler
Assoiciation's conference. He seemed like a nice man, but he was clearly
nonplussed by the very idea of unschooling. >>
Maybe if he were to look Dale Smith up on Google he would get a glimmer of
how unschooling works (UNLESS he just clicked on the one most obvious link an
didn't touch anything else).
When I was younger I dreaded needing to look anything up in a dictionary if I
was in a hurry. It wasn't because I would take too long to find the word--I
could find it in seconds. The problem was that I couldn't NOT read what I
saw on the neighboring pages, and I couldn't NOT read the definitions of the
most interesting pictures I saw on the way there. And sometimes those led to
looking something else up, or going to the Indo-European appendix (American
Heritage has been my fave since I was fifteen).
I hear my kids hesitating when I say "Let's look it up on Google!" They want
the five second answer sometimes, not the "OH MY GOSH! Come look at THIS!"
But sometimes the twenty minute answer is fun for them too.
Dictionaries were less attention-sucking after I knew more. It just took a
decade or so for all the pages to have been glanced at so I wasn't going to
open it up and say "I didn't know THIS was here!"
That will never happen with google.
I'm doomed to it taking me twenty minutes to look anything up.
I also write reports sometimes! We wanted t find a picture of Helen Keller,
and I filled a document file up with ten photos and several quotes, in
chronological order, from seven or ten websites, for Holly to look at the
next morning.
What was that about ADHD? <g>
Are we surprised that schools are 300 thousand years behind the times (or 30
million or whatever it was)? <g>
Part of the problem in our world is the concept of discipline (relating in
all directions--land ownership, slavery, women's legal status through the
ages, powers of kings) and that's So much bigger politically speaking than
even the English speaking "Western World," so looking at that is daunting to
me.
So I settle for the little models in freedom and respect which are afforded
by changing our relationships with our children from the cultural norm of
them being obedient without question to their being partners in exploration.
Maybe that's a column bubbling up to the surface.
I resisted watching Gone with the Wind my whole life until Friday. I'm 2/3
through (the point where so many have famously fallen asleep in the past, I
guess), but thanks to the marvels of modern technology I didn't have to snore
in a crowded theatre during the depression.
I'm glad I saw it AFTER I was aware of the sociological take on the role of
the southern U.S. in western civilization, and that is that they were trying
in many ways to re-create feudal Europe in a post-Renaissance world.
Watching it through those eyes helped mesee things I would have ignored if I
had been familiar with the movie. And it helps explain some of the
mysterious power of religion in so many people from that part of the country
too.
Before my ancestors were all Texans they were from the SE, not further north
than Virginia, except for ONE Yankee (brace yourselves). My maternal
grandmother was from a second union. Her mother's respectable Texas husband,
the father of her brothers, had died. Her mother married again and had two
girls. Their father was from *Michigan.*
To them that was as foreign as Boston! <g>
His last name was Houghton. Turns out that's a prominent name in Michigan,
and I bet they never knew where he had gone. "Black sheep," my granny said;
"ran away to Texas."
And that's why I can't use Google without learning something different,
because I learned a long time ago to use distraction to my advantage. Maybe
ADHD is a great HELP to unschooling because it keeps someone from finishing
the one thing they intended to do and then needing a prompt or permission or
an invitation to jump track to something related, or opposite.
Sandra
Sandra
<< The person who told me they like Dale Smith's work was selling a phonics
reading program at the booth next to mine at the Washington Homeschooler
Assoiciation's conference. He seemed like a nice man, but he was clearly
nonplussed by the very idea of unschooling. >>
Maybe if he were to look Dale Smith up on Google he would get a glimmer of
how unschooling works (UNLESS he just clicked on the one most obvious link an
didn't touch anything else).
When I was younger I dreaded needing to look anything up in a dictionary if I
was in a hurry. It wasn't because I would take too long to find the word--I
could find it in seconds. The problem was that I couldn't NOT read what I
saw on the neighboring pages, and I couldn't NOT read the definitions of the
most interesting pictures I saw on the way there. And sometimes those led to
looking something else up, or going to the Indo-European appendix (American
Heritage has been my fave since I was fifteen).
I hear my kids hesitating when I say "Let's look it up on Google!" They want
the five second answer sometimes, not the "OH MY GOSH! Come look at THIS!"
But sometimes the twenty minute answer is fun for them too.
Dictionaries were less attention-sucking after I knew more. It just took a
decade or so for all the pages to have been glanced at so I wasn't going to
open it up and say "I didn't know THIS was here!"
That will never happen with google.
I'm doomed to it taking me twenty minutes to look anything up.
I also write reports sometimes! We wanted t find a picture of Helen Keller,
and I filled a document file up with ten photos and several quotes, in
chronological order, from seven or ten websites, for Holly to look at the
next morning.
What was that about ADHD? <g>
Are we surprised that schools are 300 thousand years behind the times (or 30
million or whatever it was)? <g>
Part of the problem in our world is the concept of discipline (relating in
all directions--land ownership, slavery, women's legal status through the
ages, powers of kings) and that's So much bigger politically speaking than
even the English speaking "Western World," so looking at that is daunting to
me.
So I settle for the little models in freedom and respect which are afforded
by changing our relationships with our children from the cultural norm of
them being obedient without question to their being partners in exploration.
Maybe that's a column bubbling up to the surface.
I resisted watching Gone with the Wind my whole life until Friday. I'm 2/3
through (the point where so many have famously fallen asleep in the past, I
guess), but thanks to the marvels of modern technology I didn't have to snore
in a crowded theatre during the depression.
I'm glad I saw it AFTER I was aware of the sociological take on the role of
the southern U.S. in western civilization, and that is that they were trying
in many ways to re-create feudal Europe in a post-Renaissance world.
Watching it through those eyes helped mesee things I would have ignored if I
had been familiar with the movie. And it helps explain some of the
mysterious power of religion in so many people from that part of the country
too.
Before my ancestors were all Texans they were from the SE, not further north
than Virginia, except for ONE Yankee (brace yourselves). My maternal
grandmother was from a second union. Her mother's respectable Texas husband,
the father of her brothers, had died. Her mother married again and had two
girls. Their father was from *Michigan.*
To them that was as foreign as Boston! <g>
His last name was Houghton. Turns out that's a prominent name in Michigan,
and I bet they never knew where he had gone. "Black sheep," my granny said;
"ran away to Texas."
And that's why I can't use Google without learning something different,
because I learned a long time ago to use distraction to my advantage. Maybe
ADHD is a great HELP to unschooling because it keeps someone from finishing
the one thing they intended to do and then needing a prompt or permission or
an invitation to jump track to something related, or opposite.
Sandra
Sandra
Barbara Chase
>I hear my kids hesitating when I say "Let's look it up on Google!" They wantSo, I'm looking for some really good reference books for those five second
>the five second answer sometimes, not the "OH MY GOSH! Come look at THIS!"
answers? For example, just recently my daughter wanted to know if Panda's
have tails, but by the time we got to the computer she wasn't interested
anymore.
--bc--
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In a message dated 6/23/02 12:03:11 PM, yahoo-groups@... writes:
<< So, I'm looking for some really good reference books for those five second
answers? For example, just recently my daughter wanted to know if Panda's
have tails, but by the time we got to the computer she wasn't interested
anymore. >>
You could say "I don't think so" (or "I think so" or "I don't know) and then
write it on a list on the wall. And whoever finds the answer writes it up
there and checks it off. <g>
It might be five seconds' worth LATER.
Sandra
<< So, I'm looking for some really good reference books for those five second
answers? For example, just recently my daughter wanted to know if Panda's
have tails, but by the time we got to the computer she wasn't interested
anymore. >>
You could say "I don't think so" (or "I think so" or "I don't know) and then
write it on a list on the wall. And whoever finds the answer writes it up
there and checks it off. <g>
It might be five seconds' worth LATER.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/23/2002 2:03:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
yahoo-groups@... writes:
and the human body.
Amy Kagey
<A HREF="http://www.ubah.com/ecommerce/default.asp?sid=Z0939&gid=462366">Usborne Books Online Sales</A>
Free shipping thru July!
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yahoo-groups@... writes:
> So, I'm looking for some really good reference books for those five secondWe like Usborne's Book of Knowledge, which covers animals, birds, machines,
> answers?
and the human body.
Amy Kagey
<A HREF="http://www.ubah.com/ecommerce/default.asp?sid=Z0939&gid=462366">Usborne Books Online Sales</A>
Free shipping thru July!
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