email attachment caution
[email protected]
someone emailed me offlist in response to my last post here, and there were
no remarks, but an attachment. I did not open it, and responded saying I
don't open attachments from people I don't know, especially without
explanation. I asked what it was and why, and the mail came back unknown
address, so folks please be careful what you download from unknown sources!
It is not a registered member of this list, either, so I can't imagine that
it was anything good :0( Please beware....
Subj: Re: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Philosophy?
Date: 6/2/02 1:47:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
To: <A HREF="mailto:megamom08@...">megamom08@...</A>
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no remarks, but an attachment. I did not open it, and responded saying I
don't open attachments from people I don't know, especially without
explanation. I asked what it was and why, and the mail came back unknown
address, so folks please be careful what you download from unknown sources!
It is not a registered member of this list, either, so I can't imagine that
it was anything good :0( Please beware....
Subj: Re: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Philosophy?
Date: 6/2/02 1:47:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
To: <A HREF="mailto:megamom08@...">megamom08@...</A>
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[email protected]
in addition to what i just posted, i did a search online and the file sent to
me was indeed a win32 worm virus. PLEASE watch what you open, there are
troublemakers reading this list......
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me was indeed a win32 worm virus. PLEASE watch what you open, there are
troublemakers reading this list......
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[email protected]
Sorry guys, I emailed the wrong list, but both my lists are unschooling lists
so it can't hurt to be careful :0)
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so it can't hurt to be careful :0)
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Tia Leschke
>someone emailed me offlist in response to my last post here, and there wereI doubt that it was a troublemaker you got it from. Many of these viruses
>no remarks, but an attachment. I did not open it, and responded saying I
>don't open attachments from people I don't know, especially without
>explanation. I asked what it was and why, and the mail came back unknown
>address, so folks please be careful what you download from unknown sources!
>It is not a registered member of this list, either, so I can't imagine that
>it was anything good :0( Please beware....
are programmed to not only send to everyone in your address book, they also
pick up addresses from any mail you've saved, including mail from this
list. Chances are, someone on this list has a virus, but they didn't send
it to you on purpose.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/2/02 11:01:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:
said it will search your address book, documents folder, and send out emails.
I DID NOT open the attachment. But if it got my name from one of these lists,
then maybe others will get it to. Again, DON't open it!!!!! I didn't know it
was actually a virus until i sent the first notice to this list. SORRY for
the off-topic posts, people, but I hope I've helped more than disrupted :0)
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leschke@... writes:
> Chances are, someone on this list has a virus, but they didn't sendthank you Tia. I am trying to learn a little bit about it as we speak, and it
> it to you on purpose.
> Tia
>
>
said it will search your address book, documents folder, and send out emails.
I DID NOT open the attachment. But if it got my name from one of these lists,
then maybe others will get it to. Again, DON't open it!!!!! I didn't know it
was actually a virus until i sent the first notice to this list. SORRY for
the off-topic posts, people, but I hope I've helped more than disrupted :0)
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/2/02 8:49:33 PM, megamom08@... writes:
<< PLEASE watch what you open, there are
troublemakers reading this list...... >>
Viruses often go out randomly and don't just attach themselves to
troublemakers. Some of them will zing off to just about any e-mail address
they can come across in the infected computer.
Sandra
<< PLEASE watch what you open, there are
troublemakers reading this list...... >>
Viruses often go out randomly and don't just attach themselves to
troublemakers. Some of them will zing off to just about any e-mail address
they can come across in the infected computer.
Sandra
[email protected]
<<PLEASE watch what you open, there are
troublemakers reading this list......>>
Hi, I posted this on another list but I wanted to post this here for others
who may be new to viruses.
The program is written to automaticvally reply to any saved messages and
the virus ricipient's address book. The "sender" may not even know that they
received it if there is no virus protection software on tehir computer and
no one who received it from them has told them. Some viruses even change the
name of the senders to make alerts impossible.
Please give others the benefit of the doubt as to intentions.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
troublemakers reading this list......>>
Hi, I posted this on another list but I wanted to post this here for others
who may be new to viruses.
The program is written to automaticvally reply to any saved messages and
the virus ricipient's address book. The "sender" may not even know that they
received it if there is no virus protection software on tehir computer and
no one who received it from them has told them. Some viruses even change the
name of the senders to make alerts impossible.
Please give others the benefit of the doubt as to intentions.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/2/02 11:10:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
answer this: if it was random, why did it come in a direct response to a post
I made, and from a bad address? If it were the worm emailing, wouldn't it
have a new subject line and contain telltale text like I was reading at a
virus site? And why would it be a bad return address? Could the virus delete
someone's email address? If it came automatically from someone who got my
address from this or the other list, why wouldn't their address be listed on
the member directory, and as bouncing since the address is no longer valid?
Still seems suspicious to me....I have had someone respond to me nastily on
AOL before and they deleted there screenname so I could not respond. I wonder
if reporting this to AOL and yahoo has any merit.....
Ang
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> Viruses often go out randomly and don't just attach themselves toI addressed this on the other list, but maybe someone who only reads here can
> troublemakers. Some of them will zing off to just about any e-mail address
>
> they can come across in the infected computer.
>
> Sandra
>
>
answer this: if it was random, why did it come in a direct response to a post
I made, and from a bad address? If it were the worm emailing, wouldn't it
have a new subject line and contain telltale text like I was reading at a
virus site? And why would it be a bad return address? Could the virus delete
someone's email address? If it came automatically from someone who got my
address from this or the other list, why wouldn't their address be listed on
the member directory, and as bouncing since the address is no longer valid?
Still seems suspicious to me....I have had someone respond to me nastily on
AOL before and they deleted there screenname so I could not respond. I wonder
if reporting this to AOL and yahoo has any merit.....
Ang
SAHM to
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/3/02 8:02:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ElissaJC@... writes:
would know for sure :0) Thanks Elissa!
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ElissaJC@... writes:
> Some viruses even change thethat answers my question! Now if I could only decipher headers and footers I
> name of the senders to make alerts impossible.
> Please give others the benefit of the doubt as to intentions.
>
>
would know for sure :0) Thanks Elissa!
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Angi
Well, actually, it's kind of interesting. Those that make viruses are very
creative, wish it was geared toward something less destructive.
1. It was a response from your email directly because the virus has been
told to do that. See...usually viruses send themselves to everyone on an
address list and only in attachments to new addresses. Sounds like this one
has been programmed into the email client so that it also hits new addresses
whether there is an attachment or not. It's not really that difficult to do
and I'm surprised I've waited this long before hearing of it. Several of us
had already worked out this idea, but it was just a curiousity thing. We
didn't know if it would work because we aren't destructive enough to test it
But I guess someone has figured it out. So anyone that person gets an email
from is likely to get the virus right back. This happened the other day from
my grandmother, but I thought it was coincidence. Did you virus scanner
catch it on the way in? Thank goodness mine did!
2. The address may not be bad. I don't know all the details as this is the
first post I've seen about it. But, the address may not be bad. Some viruses
have shut down the email client for use by the owner, but the virus itself
of course still uses the client to spread itself. That's on a private email
account. If someone is using like hotmail or something, they may have been
trying to shut the email down (they can trace those viruses to accounts) and
the virus is interfering with that. Between the two there could be a big ole
mess. I don't know if it could be deleting the address or not, I've never
looked into it, I guess it's a possibility, but unless it is making new
addies as fast as it's deleting them, that's counterproductive to most
viruses modus operandi. Viruses are programmed to spread far and fast, it
has to have an email to spread from.
I really don't think the virus is making new addies, but I don't know
everything. I'm a hacker, not a criminal, so I don't usually go around
making destructive viruses. :) What it could very well be (what sounds
logical to me) is a criminal using a side system and making email addies for
use to spread the virus and then deleting them for a new one so that it's
not as easily traceable.
Now of course, all of this is already known information with some conjecture
and alot of common sense thrown in. But it is all very possible and now you
ve got me curious so I'm going to go play with the idea.
Angi
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 03, 2002 07:11:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] email attachment caution
In a message dated 6/2/02 11:10:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
can
answer this: if it was random, why did it come in a direct response to a
post
I made, and from a bad address? If it were the worm emailing, wouldn't it
have a new subject line and contain telltale text like I was reading at a
virus site? And why would it be a bad return address? Could the virus delete
someone's email address? If it came automatically from someone who got my
address from this or the other list, why wouldn't their address be listed on
the member directory, and as bouncing since the address is no longer valid?
Still seems suspicious to me....I have had someone respond to me nastily on
AOL before and they deleted there screenname so I could not respond. I
wonder
if reporting this to AOL and yahoo has any merit.....
Ang
SAHM to
Megan Elizabeth 8/8/92 8lbs 8oz
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Christian James 6/09/01 9lbs 5oz
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creative, wish it was geared toward something less destructive.
1. It was a response from your email directly because the virus has been
told to do that. See...usually viruses send themselves to everyone on an
address list and only in attachments to new addresses. Sounds like this one
has been programmed into the email client so that it also hits new addresses
whether there is an attachment or not. It's not really that difficult to do
and I'm surprised I've waited this long before hearing of it. Several of us
had already worked out this idea, but it was just a curiousity thing. We
didn't know if it would work because we aren't destructive enough to test it
But I guess someone has figured it out. So anyone that person gets an email
from is likely to get the virus right back. This happened the other day from
my grandmother, but I thought it was coincidence. Did you virus scanner
catch it on the way in? Thank goodness mine did!
2. The address may not be bad. I don't know all the details as this is the
first post I've seen about it. But, the address may not be bad. Some viruses
have shut down the email client for use by the owner, but the virus itself
of course still uses the client to spread itself. That's on a private email
account. If someone is using like hotmail or something, they may have been
trying to shut the email down (they can trace those viruses to accounts) and
the virus is interfering with that. Between the two there could be a big ole
mess. I don't know if it could be deleting the address or not, I've never
looked into it, I guess it's a possibility, but unless it is making new
addies as fast as it's deleting them, that's counterproductive to most
viruses modus operandi. Viruses are programmed to spread far and fast, it
has to have an email to spread from.
I really don't think the virus is making new addies, but I don't know
everything. I'm a hacker, not a criminal, so I don't usually go around
making destructive viruses. :) What it could very well be (what sounds
logical to me) is a criminal using a side system and making email addies for
use to spread the virus and then deleting them for a new one so that it's
not as easily traceable.
Now of course, all of this is already known information with some conjecture
and alot of common sense thrown in. But it is all very possible and now you
ve got me curious so I'm going to go play with the idea.
Angi
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 03, 2002 07:11:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] email attachment caution
In a message dated 6/2/02 11:10:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
> Viruses often go out randomly and don't just attach themselves toaddress
> troublemakers. Some of them will zing off to just about any e-mail
>I addressed this on the other list, but maybe someone who only reads here
> they can come across in the infected computer.
>
> Sandra
>
>
can
answer this: if it was random, why did it come in a direct response to a
post
I made, and from a bad address? If it were the worm emailing, wouldn't it
have a new subject line and contain telltale text like I was reading at a
virus site? And why would it be a bad return address? Could the virus delete
someone's email address? If it came automatically from someone who got my
address from this or the other list, why wouldn't their address be listed on
the member directory, and as bouncing since the address is no longer valid?
Still seems suspicious to me....I have had someone respond to me nastily on
AOL before and they deleted there screenname so I could not respond. I
wonder
if reporting this to AOL and yahoo has any merit.....
Ang
SAHM to
Megan Elizabeth 8/8/92 8lbs 8oz
Ashlyn Olivia 7/25/99 9lbs 8oz
Christian James 6/09/01 9lbs 5oz
*NEW* <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/megamom08/hometour.html">Ang's
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