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In a message dated 4/29/02 9:23:17 PM, abtleo@... writes:

<< Like many things, I'm sure folks with older
kids perspectives on this are probably different than mine, since my son is
5, not 15. I can easily see how this might change as a child grows older. >>

If you start when they're fifteen it's not going to work as well as it will
if they grew up with choices.

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As a semi-serious cook (who gets to build a house adn pick out all the
kitchen stuff soon!!!) Igot tired of the kids complaining about what I made.
I told them that it hurt my feelings to hear the complaints as I spent a lot
of time, energy and love cooking their meals. "Take it or leave it" was way
too harsh for us, it reminds me too much of eat what I made, even though you
don't like it or starve. So I asked for them to at least taste it, and if it
was not okay to go make a PB sandwich. I was not interested in making a
variety of meals but had no problem with them helping themselves. Max (3) is
of course too young to make a PB sandwich so I don't mind being a little
more accomodating for him. There are many choices Between eat what I made
becasue It's what *I* wanted to make and go eat whatever.
LOL Here's an example of strewing relating to food.
Guess what Max just wanted for breakfast!!
ICE CREAM! so what did he get?
Ice cream and a bowl of mandarin oranges (Del Monte in the JAR--MMMMMM!!!!
Try some)
He didn't ask for the oranges, I'm not forcing him but they are there and he
may eat them. He also ate a granola bar earlier. Even mainstream
Pediatricians will tell you to look at a childs diet over a week long period
to determine their nutrition.
~Elissa Cleaveland, who just went into the dining room to pick up a fork Max
dropped and the ice cream was sitting and melting and the oranges were
half-gone. "Mm!" He said. Even a three year old can be trusted to make food
choices.
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

zenmomma *

>>I may get burned on this one, but choices to me does not extend to
>>choosing your own foods at an early age.>>

I'm not out to burn anyone. :o) This is not a concept you'll see discussed
just anywhere. Trusting kids to makes good choices does come up a lot in
unschooling discussions, though. It seems counter-intuitive, too permissive
and whacky maybe, at first. But from what I've seen and experienced, in
practice, it works better than the accepted norm of take it or leave it. Or
good food vs. bad foods. Or appropriate times to eat vs. eating when the
need arises.

>>Like many things, I'm sure folks with older kids perspectives on this are
>>probably different than mine, since my son is 5, not 15. I can easily see
>>how this might change as a child grows older.>>

Maybe. :o) Might be worth thinking about now anyway.

Life is good.
~Mary



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Diane

My kids are 2 and 4. The main food choice that is limited (by me) is CLOSE THE
REFRIGERATOR DOOR! We have all kinds of foods on hand and I have to reach stuff
for them out of the freezer, but they have A LOT of choice in what they eat.
Usually we'll fix whatever they ask for or they'll eat what we're eating.

:-) Diane


> >>I may get burned on this one, but choices to me does not extend to
> >>choosing your own foods at an early age.>>
>
> >>Like many things, I'm sure folks with older kids perspectives on this are
> >>probably different than mine, since my son is 5, not 15. I can easily see
> >>how this might change as a child grows older.>>