Lynda

That isn't true. I've never been asked for grades for any of the "adopted"
kids that have lived with us, nor for my nieces and nephews. My sil was
told they would have to be tested for appropriate grade level "because, you
know, most homeschooled children are sadly lacking in academics." They
passed way ahead of their supposed grade level and we never touched a school
book or did anything that even resembled curriculum!

The only time that CA usually gives someone static is if they are in 9-12
and are planning on graduating with their class. Then they want some sort
of proof of having passed certain classes.

I worked as registra at the local school district and we asked what grade
level they thought they should be in and informed the parents that if the
child couldn't keep up we would have to place them in a lower grade than
what the parents indicated.

Here's a link to the California standards. Click on each subject area. It
is slow to load. If you use the PDF, there will be a column on the left.
Then click on 2nd grade and you'll go direct to that section and that years
standards.

Lynda
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From: "smartier_pantz" <smartier_pantz@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] unusual unschooling situation


> Hello,
>
> I'm Ruby, and just joined this list. I have sort of an unusual
> situation on my hands, and would greatly appreciate any advice you
> can give me.
>
> I've vacillated in my approach to home learning, but basically have
> remained somewhat of a 'radical' unschooler, in that I can barely
> stomache anything that even looks like 'school'. I don't judge
> anyone else for thier different approaches to home learning, but for
> our family, this just 'fits'.
>
> But I will definately 'bend' in this particular situation, which
> will 'probably' be temporary.
>
> I live in Oregon, and tried to access the 'orsig' group, but it was
> unavailable for some reason. I don't know of any other groups for my
> state, so I decided to come here, because I'm an unschooler, and you
> have lots of members for me to draw advice from.
>
> I'm raising my grandson, and we've been, (for the most part),
> unschooling since he was a baby. He's almost 7 now, and smart as a
> whip, a whiz with math, yet slow to warm up to reading, or any type
> of 'busywork'.
>
> Oregon is a homeschooling friendly state, and basically stays out of
> our business, with the exception of testing every three years. By
> the time my grandson is seven, I will need to file an 'intent to
> homeschool' with the school district, and have him tested every three
> years from there on out.
>
> I haven't been involved in any homeschool support groups, because
> there just hasn't been the need for it thus far, and some of the
> things I've read about 'cliques', and 'elitism' in some homeschool
> groups, I don't know if I ever will join one, because I'm very
> unconventional in my beliefs and in our home learning, I just don't
> see me finding a group that would be supportive.
>
> I have a friend who homeschools her children, in much the same way as
> I do, and we get together often for outings and such, and that seems
> to satisfy my grandson's need for social interaction.
>
> Okay, at long last, here's the situation. Another grandson, from
> another state...California, who is almost eight, is here with us now,
> and will be with us at least until the end of the school year. There
> were some serious personal problems in his family that prompted his
> coming to us.
>
> The two of them get along wonderfully, except for the
> usual 'bullying' type stuff that he learned in public school, and in
> his life thus far. But the new grandson responds beautifully to
> being loved and respected, and has a sweet spirit in him that just
> needs a little more encouragement than most, because his life has
> been nothing but unpredictable, neglected, and emotionally abused.
>
> He has expressed a great desire to be homeschooled with the other
> one, rather than go to our local public elementary school.
>
> I believe this would be the best for everyone concerned, but when his
> mother disenrolled him in California, she was told that he would have
> to recieve a passing grade to be enrolled again in California next
> year.
>
> I don't have a clue where to begin to find out what the requirements
> are for a passing grade in California for second grade. I know I can
> have him tested here, in Oregon, but I'm sure they test for Oregon
> requirements.
>
> There is a great likelihood that he might remain here with us in
> Oregon after the current family crisis is over, but should things
> improve enough that he should return to his mother, I don't want to
> send him home without the requirements to enter third grade in
> California.
>
> Any advice you have would be so greatly appreciated! Thank you in
> advance for anything you can advise me on here.
>
> Ruby
>
>
>
>
>
>
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rumpleteasermom

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
> My sil was
> told they would have to be tested for appropriate grade level
"because, you
> know, most homeschooled children are sadly lacking in academics."

Was that said by someone in the schools? It's one of my pet peeves!
What academics are we talking about?

Being able to conjugate a verb and name the different tenses? Does my
mechanic need to know that?

Being able to solve a quadratic equation? Does the person writing the
food column in my newspaper need that?

Being able to recite the right dates of the 'importnant' events in
history? Whose history do we use? And who decides which things were
important? And does that really help us understand the world around
us? Or would some other ways of learning about history help us
better?

The biggest problem with the schools is their expectation that
everyone needs to know the same things when they grow up!

Bridget

sharon childs

Well stated. That is one of my biggest sore spots regarding schools. That
and their pushing everybody to learn it all at the same time too. Not when
they are interested or ready to comprehend.

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>
> The biggest problem with the schools is their expectation that
> everyone needs to know the same things when they grow up!
>
> Bridget
>
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Bonni Sollars

[The biggest problem with the schools is their expectation that
everyone needs to know the same things when they grow up!
Bridget]
That was my biggest problem when I was homeschooling before I began
unschooling. It is why I always felt like a failure, since my children
really only learned what they wanted, no matter how I tried to shove
other stuff down their throats. It is why many children grow to think of
themselves as "stupid", when they just don't get what other people get.
"Getting it" is a myth, anyway. Most people are good at faking "getting
it".
Bonni

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