Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Answering people
Bonni Sollars
Hi Vivian, I was thinking about that lately, too. I tell people "They
follow their interests, and the bases end up being covered." It is sort
of a political answer. Another political answer I tell people, "They
choose their own custom-made curriculum." But another thought is to
answer their question with another question. "How do you know they will
learn with a curriculum? If someone isn't interested, or ready to learn
something, it will just go in one ear and out the other."
I am not a very trusting person, so I don't tell people that I unschool
unless they are close. I guess that's why I give political answers.
My daughter (Phoebe age seven) started unschooling in the fall and hated
flashcards, (so I didn't push it), then recently decided to make her
own-she didn't want me to make them. Guess what, they are all large
numbers. She must have been so bored with the small numbers. She also
(I've said this before) will say how many of a number is somewhere
without counting one, two, three-just by glancing at something. She
plays a lot with the calculator. I bought her some modeling clay, and
she will share one fourth of it with her brother, (see the math?). She
asked, so I showed her on graph paper how you can color in the squares to
see how multiplication works, but she hasn't pursued it (so I let it go).
Her brother (Seth age nine) is finally starting to get unschooling. He
decided he wants to make a lot of money to share with the poor. I told
him to talk to a friend who runs a local charity. After talking to him,
he decided to make money by doing yardwork for people. He then wants to
buy bulk candy with half of it, sell the candy for a greater price, give
half of it to a local hunger organization, and reinvest a portion of the
rest. To figure out the price of each candy, he will count the
individual candies and divide the amount he wants to make by the number
of candies. He plans to sell it to the neighbor kids who eat lots of
candy anyway. (I don't like candy because I think sugar is very
unhealthy, but I don't want to keep him from following his passion.) He
has made money this way from selling candy before, but he gave it up
since it had no purpose. Now that there is a reason for it, he is
gung-ho. See the math?
He is also learning a lot from computer games, including vocabulary and
spelling.
My other boys (Rex age fourteen, Caleb age eleven) have math textbooks,
but only look at them when they feel like it, which is actually quite
often. Plus they do like the jokes and ideas I get from Natural Math. I
just present it in a conversational way. They have been learning things
that they were "supposed" to know from doing it in school, but since they
only did it for a grade or to pass a test, they didn't get it.
Maybe you could just give the answer, "They will learn math by
experience."
Bonni
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follow their interests, and the bases end up being covered." It is sort
of a political answer. Another political answer I tell people, "They
choose their own custom-made curriculum." But another thought is to
answer their question with another question. "How do you know they will
learn with a curriculum? If someone isn't interested, or ready to learn
something, it will just go in one ear and out the other."
I am not a very trusting person, so I don't tell people that I unschool
unless they are close. I guess that's why I give political answers.
My daughter (Phoebe age seven) started unschooling in the fall and hated
flashcards, (so I didn't push it), then recently decided to make her
own-she didn't want me to make them. Guess what, they are all large
numbers. She must have been so bored with the small numbers. She also
(I've said this before) will say how many of a number is somewhere
without counting one, two, three-just by glancing at something. She
plays a lot with the calculator. I bought her some modeling clay, and
she will share one fourth of it with her brother, (see the math?). She
asked, so I showed her on graph paper how you can color in the squares to
see how multiplication works, but she hasn't pursued it (so I let it go).
Her brother (Seth age nine) is finally starting to get unschooling. He
decided he wants to make a lot of money to share with the poor. I told
him to talk to a friend who runs a local charity. After talking to him,
he decided to make money by doing yardwork for people. He then wants to
buy bulk candy with half of it, sell the candy for a greater price, give
half of it to a local hunger organization, and reinvest a portion of the
rest. To figure out the price of each candy, he will count the
individual candies and divide the amount he wants to make by the number
of candies. He plans to sell it to the neighbor kids who eat lots of
candy anyway. (I don't like candy because I think sugar is very
unhealthy, but I don't want to keep him from following his passion.) He
has made money this way from selling candy before, but he gave it up
since it had no purpose. Now that there is a reason for it, he is
gung-ho. See the math?
He is also learning a lot from computer games, including vocabulary and
spelling.
My other boys (Rex age fourteen, Caleb age eleven) have math textbooks,
but only look at them when they feel like it, which is actually quite
often. Plus they do like the jokes and ideas I get from Natural Math. I
just present it in a conversational way. They have been learning things
that they were "supposed" to know from doing it in school, but since they
only did it for a grade or to pass a test, they didn't get it.
Maybe you could just give the answer, "They will learn math by
experience."
Bonni
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In a message dated 3/25/02 1:15:31 AM, BSOLLARS@... writes:
<< But another thought is to
answer their question with another question. "How do you know they will
learn with a curriculum? If someone isn't interested, or ready to learn
something, it will just go in one ear and out the other." >>
Only it leaves that residue of resentment and future-avoidance. It teaches
them what they have chosen not to want to know.
Sandra
<< But another thought is to
answer their question with another question. "How do you know they will
learn with a curriculum? If someone isn't interested, or ready to learn
something, it will just go in one ear and out the other." >>
Only it leaves that residue of resentment and future-avoidance. It teaches
them what they have chosen not to want to know.
Sandra
rumpleteasermom
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Bonni Sollars <BSOLLARS@J...> wrote:
> Maybe you could just give the answer, "They will learn math by"And if they don't get it, they didn't need it!"
> experience."
>
Bonni Sollars
I think that is one of the myths of ps, that math has to be taught that
way, in boxes. Why not learn addition, subtraction, multiplication and
division at the same time, as it relates to something that needs to be
done? My dad never learned to read because he skipped school throughout
childhood because of running away from his abusive father so much. So,
how did he learn math? I used to see his writing on cardboard and boards
in the barn figuring out how many bails of hay he'll need to get through
winter or how much he'll need to spend on grain, or charge for services.
You see, when he ran away from home it was to his sister's ranch to hang
out with the horse show and rodeo cowboys. He learned to rope and ride
and care for animals, to do everything he later did as a very successful
rancher.
I remember when I was in the fourth grade, looking at my seventh grade
sister's math and yearning to do it. They were using graphs and axes.
It looked so fun. I could not figure out why they were going to make me
wait three years to do it. As it turns out, the only math I ever loved
in school was Geometry and Trigonometry. That's because we were really
drawing. I didn't know it then, since they killed my passion for math,
but that is the foundation of computer programming.
My brother works for microsoft and he was allowed to pursue his passions.
My stepmom let him get into all sorts of stuff when he was little. He
would dismantle our phonographs, tape-recorders and blow-dryers. When we
complained, he put them back together. He would watch my dad fix the
truck, and understood how an engine worked when he was only four years
old. My brother almost didn't graduate high school, from all his f's in
English. He skipped English to go to the computer lab and play with
computers. Fortunately my sister tutored him that last six months of
prison, I mean high school, so he was set free, I mean graduated.
Bonni
way, in boxes. Why not learn addition, subtraction, multiplication and
division at the same time, as it relates to something that needs to be
done? My dad never learned to read because he skipped school throughout
childhood because of running away from his abusive father so much. So,
how did he learn math? I used to see his writing on cardboard and boards
in the barn figuring out how many bails of hay he'll need to get through
winter or how much he'll need to spend on grain, or charge for services.
You see, when he ran away from home it was to his sister's ranch to hang
out with the horse show and rodeo cowboys. He learned to rope and ride
and care for animals, to do everything he later did as a very successful
rancher.
I remember when I was in the fourth grade, looking at my seventh grade
sister's math and yearning to do it. They were using graphs and axes.
It looked so fun. I could not figure out why they were going to make me
wait three years to do it. As it turns out, the only math I ever loved
in school was Geometry and Trigonometry. That's because we were really
drawing. I didn't know it then, since they killed my passion for math,
but that is the foundation of computer programming.
My brother works for microsoft and he was allowed to pursue his passions.
My stepmom let him get into all sorts of stuff when he was little. He
would dismantle our phonographs, tape-recorders and blow-dryers. When we
complained, he put them back together. He would watch my dad fix the
truck, and understood how an engine worked when he was only four years
old. My brother almost didn't graduate high school, from all his f's in
English. He skipped English to go to the computer lab and play with
computers. Fortunately my sister tutored him that last six months of
prison, I mean high school, so he was set free, I mean graduated.
Bonni
vivrh
Bonni- Thanks for the answer. Your kids sound alot like my children. Well I had this Math conversation with a trusted friend of mine who is a homeschooler and leaning more and more towards unschooling every day. Her arguement for the math curriculum was very legitimate. She says dont the kids need math in some sort of order and doesnt it need to be built on? Meaning doesnt learning math need to be like a stair case, where you start with a step and learn and add more as you go up the stair case. (is this making sense?) I could understand exactly what she meant and I tried to point out that it is more for the teachers that they teach math this way. It is easier for them to start teaching in September if they know where the teacher left off in June. Any thoughts on this?
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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From: Bonni Sollars
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Answering people
Hi Vivian, I was thinking about that lately, too. I tell people "They
follow their interests, and the bases end up being covered." It is sort
of a political answer. Another political answer I tell people, "They
choose their own custom-made curriculum." But another thought is to
answer their question with another question. "How do you know they will
learn with a curriculum? If someone isn't interested, or ready to learn
something, it will just go in one ear and out the other."
I am not a very trusting person, so I don't tell people that I unschool
unless they are close. I guess that's why I give political answers.
My daughter (Phoebe age seven) started unschooling in the fall and hated
flashcards, (so I didn't push it), then recently decided to make her
own-she didn't want me to make them. Guess what, they are all large
numbers. She must have been so bored with the small numbers. She also
(I've said this before) will say how many of a number is somewhere
without counting one, two, three-just by glancing at something. She
plays a lot with the calculator. I bought her some modeling clay, and
she will share one fourth of it with her brother, (see the math?). She
asked, so I showed her on graph paper how you can color in the squares to
see how multiplication works, but she hasn't pursued it (so I let it go).
Her brother (Seth age nine) is finally starting to get unschooling. He
decided he wants to make a lot of money to share with the poor. I told
him to talk to a friend who runs a local charity. After talking to him,
he decided to make money by doing yardwork for people. He then wants to
buy bulk candy with half of it, sell the candy for a greater price, give
half of it to a local hunger organization, and reinvest a portion of the
rest. To figure out the price of each candy, he will count the
individual candies and divide the amount he wants to make by the number
of candies. He plans to sell it to the neighbor kids who eat lots of
candy anyway. (I don't like candy because I think sugar is very
unhealthy, but I don't want to keep him from following his passion.) He
has made money this way from selling candy before, but he gave it up
since it had no purpose. Now that there is a reason for it, he is
gung-ho. See the math?
He is also learning a lot from computer games, including vocabulary and
spelling.
My other boys (Rex age fourteen, Caleb age eleven) have math textbooks,
but only look at them when they feel like it, which is actually quite
often. Plus they do like the jokes and ideas I get from Natural Math. I
just present it in a conversational way. They have been learning things
that they were "supposed" to know from doing it in school, but since they
only did it for a grade or to pass a test, they didn't get it.
Maybe you could just give the answer, "They will learn math by
experience."
Bonni
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In a message dated 3/25/02 9:59:36 AM, vivrh@... writes:
<< She says dont the kids need math in some sort of order and doesnt it need
to be built on? Meaning doesnt learning math need to be like a stair case,
where you start with a step and learn and add more as you go up the stair
case. >>
Schools say so, but it doesn't seem true to me.
Many unschoolers have examples of math concepts being acquired in "the wrong
order," but still eventually making a big useable whole.
And many people have personal stories of jumping all school math hurdles in
the proper order and not having a personal clue what algebra is good for in
the everyday world, or how to figure out a gemetric formula from a known,
simple example when they're sewing, or buying yard fertilizer, or whatever.
If you fill in your personal grid-of-everything in piecemeal fashion you'll
eventually be making your own connections between things--and in school, math
is rarely tied into other areas, but in the real world it is part of music,
art, history, science, auto mechanics, gaming, compost-pile planning,
whatever all else, and language.
Sandra
<< She says dont the kids need math in some sort of order and doesnt it need
to be built on? Meaning doesnt learning math need to be like a stair case,
where you start with a step and learn and add more as you go up the stair
case. >>
Schools say so, but it doesn't seem true to me.
Many unschoolers have examples of math concepts being acquired in "the wrong
order," but still eventually making a big useable whole.
And many people have personal stories of jumping all school math hurdles in
the proper order and not having a personal clue what algebra is good for in
the everyday world, or how to figure out a gemetric formula from a known,
simple example when they're sewing, or buying yard fertilizer, or whatever.
If you fill in your personal grid-of-everything in piecemeal fashion you'll
eventually be making your own connections between things--and in school, math
is rarely tied into other areas, but in the real world it is part of music,
art, history, science, auto mechanics, gaming, compost-pile planning,
whatever all else, and language.
Sandra
vivrh
I think that is one of the myths of ps, that math has to be taught that
way, in boxes. Why not learn addition, subtraction, multiplication and
division at the same time, as it relates to something that needs to be
done?
I agree wholeheartedly, but when you try to tell someone else that, they get that glazed over look! :-)
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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way, in boxes. Why not learn addition, subtraction, multiplication and
division at the same time, as it relates to something that needs to be
done?
I agree wholeheartedly, but when you try to tell someone else that, they get that glazed over look! :-)
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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vivrh
I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all together. But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you know?
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Answering people
In a message dated 3/25/02 9:59:36 AM, vivrh@... writes:
<< She says dont the kids need math in some sort of order and doesnt it need
to be built on? Meaning doesnt learning math need to be like a stair case,
where you start with a step and learn and add more as you go up the stair
case. >>
Schools say so, but it doesn't seem true to me.
Many unschoolers have examples of math concepts being acquired in "the wrong
order," but still eventually making a big useable whole.
And many people have personal stories of jumping all school math hurdles in
the proper order and not having a personal clue what algebra is good for in
the everyday world, or how to figure out a gemetric formula from a known,
simple example when they're sewing, or buying yard fertilizer, or whatever.
If you fill in your personal grid-of-everything in piecemeal fashion you'll
eventually be making your own connections between things--and in school, math
is rarely tied into other areas, but in the real world it is part of music,
art, history, science, auto mechanics, gaming, compost-pile planning,
whatever all else, and language.
Sandra
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At 12:00 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, vivrh wrote:
of schools and curriculums and whatnot. They've been sold a bill
of goods all their lives. It takes time for them to consider a
different way of looking at education.
One of the nice things about unschooling is that my ideas don't
have to work in the abstract. They don't have to fit some mythical
Every Child. I don't have to go with percentages; I can just do
what works with my children right now. As long as the children are
learning and growing and reaching towards their destinies, I can
just sit back and enjoy it. And if they stall out on something,
I can roll up my sleeves and help them figure out how to get going
again.
So, instead of answering the question in the abstract, I usually
sidestep the question by sharing an example of how natural learning
works in our family.
Gotta go. I promised my 6-year-old I'd help him with a programming
project.
Heather Madrone <heather@...> http://www.madrone.com
Homeschooling: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/homeschool.htm
The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html
You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think.
>I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all together.People are understandably nervous when you question the importance
>But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you know?
of schools and curriculums and whatnot. They've been sold a bill
of goods all their lives. It takes time for them to consider a
different way of looking at education.
One of the nice things about unschooling is that my ideas don't
have to work in the abstract. They don't have to fit some mythical
Every Child. I don't have to go with percentages; I can just do
what works with my children right now. As long as the children are
learning and growing and reaching towards their destinies, I can
just sit back and enjoy it. And if they stall out on something,
I can roll up my sleeves and help them figure out how to get going
again.
So, instead of answering the question in the abstract, I usually
sidestep the question by sharing an example of how natural learning
works in our family.
Gotta go. I promised my 6-year-old I'd help him with a programming
project.
Heather Madrone <heather@...> http://www.madrone.com
Homeschooling: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/homeschool.htm
The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html
You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think.
vivrh
Thanks Heather - that is a great answer. I will try to remember to only speak of MY children when talking to others.
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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From: Heather Madrone
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Answering people
At 12:00 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, vivrh wrote:
>I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all together.
>But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you know?
People are understandably nervous when you question the importance
of schools and curriculums and whatnot. They've been sold a bill
of goods all their lives. It takes time for them to consider a
different way of looking at education.
One of the nice things about unschooling is that my ideas don't
have to work in the abstract. They don't have to fit some mythical
Every Child. I don't have to go with percentages; I can just do
what works with my children right now. As long as the children are
learning and growing and reaching towards their destinies, I can
just sit back and enjoy it. And if they stall out on something,
I can roll up my sleeves and help them figure out how to get going
again.
So, instead of answering the question in the abstract, I usually
sidestep the question by sharing an example of how natural learning
works in our family.
Gotta go. I promised my 6-year-old I'd help him with a programming
project.
Heather Madrone <heather@...> http://www.madrone.com
Homeschooling: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/homeschool.htm
The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html
You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think.
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In a message dated 3/25/02 12:46:49 PM, vivrh@... writes:
<< I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all
together. But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you
know? >>
That's what we're trying to give you, though. Take the doubters some copies
of some 1960's John Holt. Ask them questions about their OWN "education."
Like the emperor's new clothes, there are lots of people who assume the
others who went to school learned and remember all that stuff, so they bluff
and pretend they did too rather than say "I don't remember it."
Sandra
<< I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all
together. But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you
know? >>
That's what we're trying to give you, though. Take the doubters some copies
of some 1960's John Holt. Ask them questions about their OWN "education."
Like the emperor's new clothes, there are lots of people who assume the
others who went to school learned and remember all that stuff, so they bluff
and pretend they did too rather than say "I don't remember it."
Sandra
zenmomma *
>>My brother almost didn't graduate high school, from all his f's inEnglish. He skipped English to go to the computer lab and play with
computers. Fortunately my sister tutored him that last six months of
prison, I mean high school, so he was set free, I mean graduated.>>
This was my Dad! Well, except that they didn't have computer lab in 1939.
;-) But he also had loads of trouble in school due to poor English grades.
And they'd also mark his math papers wrong, or worse failed for cheating,
becasue he didn't show his steps when he solved problems.
This man definitely dreams in numbers. I wouldn't recognize his house if he
didn't have long strings of numbers listed on papers on various desk tops
and counters throughout the house. He hated his one year in Cooper Union
College and went on to become an Electrical Engineer on his own. He told me
that the schools step by step process didn't make sense to him. He had to
make sense of the numbers on his own.
Now, the best part of the story follows. This man who failed every English
class, who hated to read, who swore he couldn't write or spell, has written
a book. When he retired he became one of those guys who does geneology. He
does nothing but read, write, research and use his beloved numbers
practically every day. He wrote a book on his findings and they put it in
his local library for other researchers to use. He is just my best example
of *they'll learn it because they need it and have an interest*.
Life is good.
~Mary
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>I guess credentialism wasn't so rampant then, though my dad went to
>
>This man definitely dreams in numbers. I wouldn't recognize his house if he
>didn't have long strings of numbers listed on papers on various desk tops
>and counters throughout the house. He hated his one year in Cooper Union
>College and went on to become an Electrical Engineer on his own.
Stanford to become an electrical engineer a few years earlier. I wonder if
he realized he could have done it on his own.
>Now, the best part of the story follows. This man who failed every EnglishThis is cool. If my dad had lived long enough, I think he would have been
>class, who hated to read, who swore he couldn't write or spell, has written
>a book. When he retired he became one of those guys who does geneology. He
>does nothing but read, write, research and use his beloved numbers
>practically every day. He wrote a book on his findings and they put it in
>his local library for other researchers to use. He is just my best example
>of *they'll learn it because they need it and have an interest*.
very interested in all the alternative energy stuff and done something in
that area. He was always inventing little things and also very much an
environmentalist.
Tia
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Bonni Sollars
l.i.g. Mary, that is a wonderful story! Thanks for sharing it. I'm
showing it to my son.
Bonni
showing it to my son.
Bonni
vivrh
OH YES Absolutely Sandra. Thanks for your wise words. I agree completely. I feel the truth in my heart and verbalizing it to others is another thing all together. I try to give a few examples and then see my way out the conversation if they have that glazed look that people get.
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Answering people
In a message dated 3/25/02 12:46:49 PM, vivrh@... writes:
<< I agree that school says one thing and kids learn another way all
together. But I have no REAL LIFE way to back this up in a discussion you
know? >>
That's what we're trying to give you, though. Take the doubters some copies
of some 1960's John Holt. Ask them questions about their OWN "education."
Like the emperor's new clothes, there are lots of people who assume the
others who went to school learned and remember all that stuff, so they bluff
and pretend they did too rather than say "I don't remember it."
Sandra
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "vivrh" <vivrh@m...> wrote:
see my way out the conversation if they have that glazed look that
people get.
When people question unschooling (or even homeschooling) with me now,
I just tell them to chat with one of my daughters for a while and
decide for themselves if it works.
Bridget
> I feel the truth in my heart and verbalizing it to othersis another thing all together. I try to give a few examples and then
see my way out the conversation if they have that glazed look that
people get.
> God blessI understand your problem and am lucky enough to be well past it now.
> Vivian
When people question unschooling (or even homeschooling) with me now,
I just tell them to chat with one of my daughters for a while and
decide for themselves if it works.
Bridget
zenmomma *
>>When people question unschooling (or even homeschooling) with me now, Idecide for themselves if it works.>>
>>just tell them to chat with one of my daughters for a while and
That is so sweet. :o) I just love when parents are soooo confident in their
kids.
Life is good.
~Mary
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