Bonni Sollars

I'm not much help, but I think if he asks you questions that are beyond
yourself, and you suggest other sources, that is the best you can do. If
he is uninterested in books, why not contact an engineering teacher or an
engineer? Why not take or send him on field-trips where they build
bridges? When my kids use "never" and "ever" words negatively about
their future, I respond with an emphatic "No Way!"(Wrong Answer Buzzer
Noise) It's not your job to change your child's mind, just to say what
you believe passionately and leave it at that. He will appreciate your
faith in him later. It sounds like he is just bored and wants the
challenge of a debate. The fact that your child thinks the way he does
is just awesome. As I always say when my kids run out of things to do.
"Boredom is the soil in which imagination grows." I would like to say
that my best friend's dad never got beyond 8th grade, but joined the army
corp of engineers at seventeen. He performed the job of a civil
engineer, but he never graduated from high school or college. He
travelled around the world and made a very good living doing what he
loved as a foreman building roads and bridges.
Bonni

alaurashome

My 10 year old son who has been unschooling is now suddenly talking
about how since he hates to study, he will probably end up living in
a ditch. He says that he would like to go to college, but he knows
that he never can because he likes laying around too much. This
child is a natural born lawyer and nothing I say will budge his
opinion. Does anyone have any idea what else I could do? Are there
any books he could read?

He also asks impossible questions. He recently asked me if I would
help him create a real black hole. He was very disappointed when I
told him that I couldn't. He never wants to do anything easy. He
saw a great TV show on bridge building and asked if he could build a
bridge. I hauled out science catalogs and asked him what kind he
was interested in. He wasn't interested in a book or a kit. He
wanted to head down to the nearest main road and build a bridge
across it. While I must admit that it would be handy for avoiding
the traffic, I don't believe that local ordinances would allow a 10
year old to build a bridge across their highway. Each of his
questions leads to many more why nots?

He asked if he could build a wall in our yard. I was thrilled to be
able to say yes, but my excitement vanished with his questions about
materials. He couldn't understand why I didn't know the relative
strengths of cement, stone, brick, etc. When I encouraged him to
check for himself - from our library (Books on Architecture,
Building, Science Enyclopedias etc.) or online, he lost interest.
Does anyone else deal with these kind of daily battles? Anyone else
unschooling this kind of gifted child?

Please Help,
Alaura

Bonni Sollars

Alaura, you mentioned three words, failed, frustrated and stupid. I just
want to say, you sound very intelligent and wise. You sound like you are
doing things the best you can. Your son's imagination is outstanding. I
would rejoice in his mind, give him hands on opportunities like field
trips and expose him to engineers and scientists. Does he have
subscriptions to Popular Science and Mechanics? He is imagining things
almost like my kids imagining with their legos and clay, only on a
grander scale. Trust him. Don't take on more of a burden than you can.
It is not your job to do it all. Just thinking these things is enough
learning, if you ask me. Isn't that what the super elite intelligent
people do, just sit around thinking about and discussing thoughts and
ideas. You are not a failure. You sound to me to be a raging success.

Bonni

TheQueen

<He
wanted to head down to the nearest main road and build a bridge
across it. >

My Dad is an engineer and while growing up, we would have to go to these
sites under construction and see all this road work stuff. If you could take
him to a brand new road being created and let him get up close to the
stuff… the equipment, the huge concrete pilings and so on, maybe it would
put things more in perspective for him. You don’t want to stifle his big
ideas but perhaps show him just how “BIG” they are for a 10 yr old to
accomplish!
I’m a big believer in mentors and won’t hesitate to ask *anybody* if my kid
can shadow them around if my kid shows a desire to do so. Maybe you could
meet the foreman and ask if ds could hang out while you sit in the car some
day for an hour or so. OR maybe you could saddle up to an architect and ask
if your ds could watch what goes on in that office for a few hours one day.

<He asked if he could build a wall in our yard. I was thrilled to be
able to say yes,>

Again… if you can’t manage it yourself due to finances or simply abilities,
ask someone in that particular field. He could hang around a landscaper.

<This
child is a natural born lawyer and nothing I say will budge his
opinion. >
Rent some videos that have great law scenes (don’t ask me which movies… I
really don’t know!.. isn’t there some old one with Jimmy Stewart???) I’m
drawing a blank on other movie suggestions but will write you offlist if I
remember any titles!

Sarah Carothers
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In a message dated 3/22/02 10:03:52 PM, alaurashome@... writes:

<< This
child is a natural born lawyer and nothing I say will budge his
opinion. Does anyone have any idea what else I could do? >>

He's ten. I'd humor him totally. Either don't discuss the future at all
(why, at this point?) or just matter-of-factly ask him which ditch he thinks
he'll live in. But I wouldn't press him to change his mind and I wouldn't
shame him about it.

<<He also asks impossible questions. He recently asked me if I would
help him create a real black hole. He was very disappointed when I
told him that I couldn't.>>

Another opportunity for humoring him. Ask him what he knows about black
holes and what it would take to make one. Let him explore it and let him
figure out it can't be done instead of telling him you can't. (That way
you're not the bad guy, he decides on his own it can't be done.) Or I'd say
"Sure, when you get all the stuff in one place, I'll help you."

We had a shopping list on the wall for a long time. It had a holodeck (a la
Star Trek), an exploding stroller and a robotic swordfish. I had told the
kids when we found them for sale, sure, we'd see about buying them (after
they jokingly asked for those things, various times that I had asked what
they wanted from the store).

<<He couldn't understand why I didn't know the relative
strengths of cement, stone, brick, etc. When I encouraged him to
check for himself - from our library (Books on Architecture,
Building, Science Enyclopedias etc.) or online, he lost interest. >>

I would have looked it up for him, or discussed what I did know about
relative costs, ease of construction, requirements, building code (some walls
aren't legal in some neighborhoods; cinderblock use might require rebar
reinforcement at corners and every so often).

Those are good unschooling opportunities. Try not to say no; try to say yes,
or pursue it WITH him, instead of sending him off on his own.

Sandra

marji

>Rent some videos that have great law scenes (don’t ask me which movies… I
>really don’t know!.. isn’t there some old one with Jimmy Stewart???) I’m
>drawing a blank on other movie suggestions...

My all-time favorite law scene in a book or film would have to be "To Kill
a Mockingbird." Atticus Finch's closing argument was really well written
by Harper Lee and really well acted by Gregory Peck. There's great ethical
fodder in the story for discussion, and Elmer Bernstein's score is just
gorgeous. And, you can read the story and see the film and neither one
spoils the other, if you know what I mean.

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alaurashome

> Another opportunity for humoring him.


**He sees through any attempts to humor him.


> Ask him what he knows about black
> holes and what it would take to make one. Let him explore it and
let him
> figure out it can't be done instead of telling him you can't.
(That way
> you're not the bad guy, he decides on his own it can't be done.)
Or I'd say
> "Sure, when you get all the stuff in one place, I'll help you."


**I spent an hour reading about black holes with him. He really
believes that it is possible to create one. I told him that I would
be glad to help him, but that he would have to lead because I can't
see how to do it. He gets this look that says "GEE I wish I had a
smart mother."


> I would have looked it up for him, or discussed what I did know
about
> relative costs, ease of construction, requirements, building code
(some walls
> aren't legal in some neighborhoods; cinderblock use might require
rebar
> reinforcement at corners and every so often).


**I did discuss it with him and I offered to help him look up more
info. He was the one that walked away. He thinks of too many
things to take the time to research further. He wants me to give him
immediate answers. The black hole question came up at about 2pm.
By 3pm he was determined to create his own planet and wanted to know
why we couldn't create a fire as hot as the sun. (this was not an
academic question - it was more like wanting to know why people are
so limited.) By 3:30 he was interested in building a fort in the
yard complete with moat and wall. That was when I failed him again
because I didn't know everything about cement, concrete, stone, and
brick building. I actually do know quite a bit about these things;
just didn't know enough to satisfy him.

**My son is a very sweet and sensitive little guy. It would break
his heart if he knew how frustrated and stupid I feel. He doesn't
question me to be difficult. He just seems to have a need to know
everything.

**Alaura

alaurashome

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., marji <zintz@w...> wrote:
>
> My all-time favorite law scene in a book or film would have to
be "To Kill
> a Mockingbird."

We saw that as a play at the Ford Theatre. My son did enjoy the
courtroom scene, but the story upset him. He is very sensitive to
moral issues and often feels another person's pain. He is still
upset by the story of God killing the first born children of Egypt
and we saw that years ago in the "Prince of Egypt" video. He just
brought it up for another discussion today.

Alaura

Lynda

Phases. Each of the kidlets seems to have gone through what I called the
impossible stage. I haven't he faintest why they do this but some kids seem
to be testing us (where is that manual that was suppose to come with them
<g>) to see if we still walk on water as they thought when they were little
tykes.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "alaurashome" <alaurashome@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] 10 yr old angst - Please Help


> My 10 year old son who has been unschooling is now suddenly talking
> about how since he hates to study, he will probably end up living in
> a ditch. He says that he would like to go to college, but he knows
> that he never can because he likes laying around too much. This
> child is a natural born lawyer and nothing I say will budge his
> opinion. Does anyone have any idea what else I could do? Are there
> any books he could read?
>
> He also asks impossible questions. He recently asked me if I would
> help him create a real black hole. He was very disappointed when I
> told him that I couldn't. He never wants to do anything easy. He
> saw a great TV show on bridge building and asked if he could build a
> bridge. I hauled out science catalogs and asked him what kind he
> was interested in. He wasn't interested in a book or a kit. He
> wanted to head down to the nearest main road and build a bridge
> across it. While I must admit that it would be handy for avoiding
> the traffic, I don't believe that local ordinances would allow a 10
> year old to build a bridge across their highway. Each of his
> questions leads to many more why nots?
>
> He asked if he could build a wall in our yard. I was thrilled to be
> able to say yes, but my excitement vanished with his questions about
> materials. He couldn't understand why I didn't know the relative
> strengths of cement, stone, brick, etc. When I encouraged him to
> check for himself - from our library (Books on Architecture,
> Building, Science Enyclopedias etc.) or online, he lost interest.
> Does anyone else deal with these kind of daily battles? Anyone else
> unschooling this kind of gifted child?
>
> Please Help,
> Alaura
>
>
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alaurashome

It sounds like he is just bored and wants the
> challenge of a debate.

AHA you do know my son. :) I laughed out loud when I read this.
Thank you for turning my anxiety into a smile. I think I might
actually be able to go to sleep now. It is almost 3:30, but I can
never sleep when I am upset.

I also really appreciated the ideas about engineers. You have been a
big help. Thanks again!

Alaura

alaurashome

Thank you again Bonnie! You are too sweet. I am truly heading to
bed now. I think that now I will sleep well. Thank you for turning
my nightmares back to dreams. :)
Alaura
(who will be dancing and humming her song all the way upstairs)


--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Bonni Sollars <BSOLLARS@J...> wrote:
> Alaura, you mentioned three words, failed, frustrated and stupid.
I just
> want to say, you sound very intelligent and wise. You sound like
you are
> doing things the best you can. Your son's imagination is
outstanding. I
> would rejoice in his mind, give him hands on opportunities like
field
> trips and expose him to engineers and scientists. Does he have
> subscriptions to Popular Science and Mechanics? He is imagining
things
> almost like my kids imagining with their legos and clay, only on a
> grander scale. Trust him. Don't take on more of a burden than
you can.
> It is not your job to do it all. Just thinking these things is
enough
> learning, if you ask me. Isn't that what the super elite
intelligent
> people do, just sit around thinking about and discussing thoughts
and
> ideas. You are not a failure. You sound to me to be a raging
success.
>
> Bonni

[email protected]

Rent some videos that have great law scenes (don’t ask me which movies… I
really don’t know!.. isn’t there some old one with Jimmy Stewart???) I’m
drawing a blank on other movie suggestions but will write you offlist if I
remember any titles!

How about Citizen Kane? It's a good kindof stand up movie.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

TheQueen

<Phases. Each of the kidlets seems to have gone through what I called the
impossible stage. >

I agree with Lynda on this, Alaura. And your son is just at that age where
it starts. My 11 yr old says some of the same things you mentioned, makes
some of those impossible requests. I don’t ignore her or make fun of her,
though, because I think it’s hard enough as it is on them while their bodies
are growing/changing.

Sarah Carothers
puddles@...



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rumpleteasermom

Alaura,
Have you looked into engineering software for him to mess with. That
might be an option other than books.

Bridget

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Bonni Sollars <BSOLLARS@J...> wrote:
> Alaura, you mentioned three words, failed, frustrated and stupid. I
just
> want to say, you sound very intelligent and wise. You sound like
you are
> doing things the best you can. Your son's imagination is
outstanding. I
> would rejoice in his mind, give him hands on opportunities like
field
> trips and expose him to engineers and scientists. Does he have
> subscriptions to Popular Science and Mechanics? He is imagining
things
> almost like my kids imagining with their legos and clay, only on a
> grander scale. Trust him. Don't take on more of a burden than you
can.

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/22/02 11:02:24 PM, zintz@... writes:

<< >Rent some videos that have great law scenes (don’t ask me which movies…
I

>really don’t know!.. isn’t there some old one with Jimmy Stewart???) I’m

>drawing a blank on other movie suggestions... >>

I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
I'm saying nothing in case you thought it looked stupid (as I did) and didn't
rent it, but one of my kids wanted to see it and I watched it TWICE. The
trial scene is the greatest!

Sandra

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In a message dated 3/22/02 11:55:27 PM, alaurashome@... writes:

<< > Another opportunity for humoring him.


**He sees through any attempts to humor him.
>>

Then someone's not being honest.

IF he asks for information about a black hole and you sincerely pursue it but
he "sees through," then he wasn't sincere in his request.

By "humor him" I don't mean be sarcastic and condescending. I mean go with
his premise a while even if your first response would be "it won't work."

Much learning is in the inquiry and the attempt to figure it out. That's why
it's better for a child to figure out the times tables on his own than for
someone to give them a pre-printed copy. That's why if the parents TELL kids
all kinds of things instead of giving them chances (guided or assisted or
not) to figure them out the learning doesn't stick as well. Because it was
learning as much as it was exposure.

-=-I spent an hour reading about black holes with him. He really
believes that it is possible to create one. I told him that I would
be glad to help him, but that he would have to lead because I can't
see how to do it. He gets this look that says "GEE I wish I had a
smart mother."-=-

I save stuff like this in writing in "diaries" I keep on them, and show it to
them in a couple of years. He'll think you were smart to have offered to
help.

Ask him what it would take to go and look at a black hole in situ. How much
are the Russians charging for a ride? And how long would it take them to get
near a black hole? And how close could their spaceship get? He'll see the
absurdity if he hasn't already and is just baiting you.

-=-By 3pm he was determined to create his own planet and wanted to know
why we couldn't create a fire as hot as the sun. (this was not an
academic question - it was more like wanting to know why people are
so limited.) -=-

Marty, when he was little, asked me "Mom, if someone counts to infinity, is
that illegal?" (Turns out I had told him "you can't count to infinity," and
he took it as there being a rule against it.)

-=-He just seems to have a need to know
everything. -=-

By the time he's through living, he'll know as much as he could possibly
stuff in then!

Maybe you could ask him questions that involve him experimenting to find the
answer. If he starts just telling you "I don't know" or "you tell me," you
can say "Why is it you want me to know answers but you don't know any? Don't
you think kids can figure things out?" or some such pointer toward
experimentation and inquiry.

Sandra

[email protected]

I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
Sandra
I really like her. We bought a movie with her (name?)in it called "Bring it
On"
It's a cheerleading movie, yet it has some really great comedy scenes. It
pokes fun at alot of "Teenhood"
and the narrowness of school life.
Awesome movie!!
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

Joseph Fuerst

>
> Those are good unschooling opportunities. Try not to say no; try to say
yes,
> or pursue it WITH him, instead of sending him off on his own.
>
> Sandra
>
AHA!!!
My 10 yr old is in a very "angst" stage, too. And I think she struggles
between enjoying things for young nad very young children, and a new
awareness of her expanding horizons, power, and knowledge as an older
child.
She *wants* to be responsible and delve into more complex
territores.....and she *wants* to stay little and be cared for completely.
I tell her I'll continue to read with her, even after she can read well on
her own, I hug her, and play with her and do the best I can to spend time
with her.

It's been challenging. She's the oldest.....and so I'm still learning so
much about how to relate to her at various stages. And the 3 yr old and
toddler take up SO much time and attention. Especially since we're trying
to sell the house and the 3 yr old seems to add to the wall murals .....as
soon as I get one scrubbed off, another appears.

I wish there were some other unschooling families around here to 'trade off'
some time with!! Or maybe Sandra and Holly could join us for
awhile......you can maintain the patience that sometimes slips away from me
lately!

Susan

TheQueen

< Alaura,
Have you looked into engineering software for him to mess with. That
might be an option other than books.

Bridget>
Bridget, that is a *great* idea. My 11 yr old isn’t into engineering but she
does love music, as I’ve said before. She’s taught herself how to do a lot
of music related computer stuff and is now into designing skins for the
winamp player thing (I don’t have a clue what she’s doing or how!)

Sarah Carothers
puddles@...



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TheQueen

< I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
I'm saying nothing in case you thought it looked stupid (as I did) and
didn't
rent it, but one of my kids wanted to see it and I watched it TWICE. The
trial scene is the greatest!

Sandra>

Thank you for reminding me of that movie! I really wanted dd to see it (she
sometimes refers to herself as having blonde moments… must be a teen thing)
and I wanted her to see that ‘blonde moments’ are really much more than
meets the eye <g>.
Thanks,
sarah

Sarah Carothers
puddles@...



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alaurashome

>
> How about Citizen Kane? It's a good kindof stand up movie.
> ~Elissa Cleaveland

Thank you Elissa. I think that I may even have that video. It
might be just what my kids need to see. I keep telling them that
money can't buy happiness, but I don't think they believe me.
Everyone else (grandparents, friends, other homeschoolers) keep
telling them that college and career are the only marks of success.

Alaura

alaurashome

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "rumpleteasermom"
<rumpleteasermom@j...> wrote:
> Alaura,
> Have you looked into engineering software for him to mess with.
That
> might be an option other than books.
>
> Bridget
>

That might be a grand idea.
Anyone know of any titles to look for?
My ds went through "Gizmos and Gadgets" and "The Lost Mind of Dr.
Brain" when he was 5 and 6. He was really into all of The Sims
games last year. Any other favorites to recommend?

Alaura

Lynda

Oh, drat, there is some software that works with Kenectics and I don't
remember the name of it. It is 3D design software and you then build stuff
with Kenetics after you do the designing!

You could tell him, which is true, that engineers and architects do models
of what they are going to build before they build it.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "rumpleteasermom" <rumpleteasermom@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:06 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: 10 yr old angst - Please Help


> Alaura,
> Have you looked into engineering software for him to mess with. That
> might be an option other than books.
>
> Bridget
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Bonni Sollars <BSOLLARS@J...> wrote:
> > Alaura, you mentioned three words, failed, frustrated and stupid. I
> just
> > want to say, you sound very intelligent and wise. You sound like
> you are
> > doing things the best you can. Your son's imagination is
> outstanding. I
> > would rejoice in his mind, give him hands on opportunities like
> field
> > trips and expose him to engineers and scientists. Does he have
> > subscriptions to Popular Science and Mechanics? He is imagining
> things
> > almost like my kids imagining with their legos and clay, only on a
> > grander scale. Trust him. Don't take on more of a burden than you
> can.
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "TheQueen" <puddles@t...> wrote:
> < I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
> I'm saying nothing in case you thought it looked stupid (as I did)
and
> didn't
> rent it, but one of my kids wanted to see it and I watched it
TWICE. The
> trial scene is the greatest!
>
> Sandra>

My family loved that movie. We also enjoyed "My Cousin Vinnie".

My all time favorite would have to be "Witness for the Prosecution".
My husband's favorite is "A Few Good Men".

Don't you just love movies?

Alaura

Lynda

That was a real hit in our house! They are going to buy it when it comes
out in the markdown shelf at the video store.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] 10 yr old angst - Please Help


>
> In a message dated 3/22/02 11:02:24 PM, zintz@... writes:
>
> << >Rent some videos that have great law scenes (don’t ask me which
movies…
> I
>
> >really don’t know!.. isn’t there some old one with Jimmy Stewart???) I’m
>
> >drawing a blank on other movie suggestions... >>
>
> I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
> I'm saying nothing in case you thought it looked stupid (as I did) and
didn't
> rent it, but one of my kids wanted to see it and I watched it TWICE. The
> trial scene is the greatest!
>
> Sandra
>
>
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Lynda

We just finished watching "Riding in Cars With Boys."

I wasn't sure I was going to like it because it was "required" watching
(long story, and I can never remember how the relationships go but hubby's
father is the author's father's cousin) but it turned out pretty good also.

I just wish they had put in that she did manage to go to college.

We've been alternating between chick flicks and action films the last few
weeks.

Anyone in TN know where they filmed that Robert Redford movie, I think it is
called The Last Castle?

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "alaurashome" <alaurashome@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Legally Blonde


> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "TheQueen" <puddles@t...> wrote:
> > < I was happily surprised and amused by "Legally Blonde."
> > I'm saying nothing in case you thought it looked stupid (as I did)
> and
> > didn't
> > rent it, but one of my kids wanted to see it and I watched it
> TWICE. The
> > trial scene is the greatest!
> >
> > Sandra>
>
> My family loved that movie. We also enjoyed "My Cousin Vinnie".
>
> My all time favorite would have to be "Witness for the Prosecution".
> My husband's favorite is "A Few Good Men".
>
> Don't you just love movies?
>
> Alaura
>
>
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., <ElissaJC@c...> wrote:

> I really like her.

If you like Reese Witherspoon, you will probably like Pleasantville.
Another one of her's that is good but in a more unusual way is
Election with Matthew Broderick.

Bridget

rumpleteasermom

I'd say try:

Roller Coaster Tycoon
The Ultimate Ride
Railroad Tycoon (if he likes trains - Guess what Wyndham's favorite
game is?)
The Incredible Machine
The Incredible Toon Machine
Zap - if he likes electricity

Also good for people who like sim games:

Age of Empires
Heroes of Might and Magic
Day the World Broke

Games for oddball types who like weird things:

ToonStruck
Bad Day on the Midway - mature audiences only.

Bridget


--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "alaurashome" <alaurashome@y...>
wrote:

> That might be a grand idea.
> Anyone know of any titles to look for?
> My ds went through "Gizmos and Gadgets" and "The Lost Mind of Dr.
> Brain" when he was 5 and 6. He was really into all of The Sims
> games last year. Any other favorites to recommend?
>
> Alaura

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I did like Pleasantville very much.
I made a mistake though, Bring It On was Kirsten Dunst. I like them both. I
seem to have a fascination with cute perky blonds. I don't know why, I don't
even know any IRL.
Maybe becasue it is my complete opposite.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

rumpleteasermom

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., <ElissaJC@c...> wrote:

> I made a mistake though, Bring It On was Kirsten Dunst.

I like Kirsten Dunst too. I have ever since I saw her in Interview
with the Vampire. What's she up to these days?

Another one I enjoyed watching the cahnges in is Ariana Richardson.
(Tremors, Jurassic Park)

Bridget