Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Speaking of experts, was experience, experts, ownership and road trip
Lynda
Experts are like statistics and surveys. You can find one to say whatever
you want to hear.
Lynda
you want to hear.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kolleen" <Kolleen@...>
To: "Unschooling.com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:18 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] experience, experts, ownership and road trip
> There were so many posts that I wanted to respond to. But alas there must
> of been a reason the power went out twice and I lost the snippets. With
> no time to go back through the massive amount of mail to find them
> (again).
>
> Bridget's explanation of experience reminded me of when I was hiring a
> pressman. Not an easy task at a time when unemployment was low. A very
> wise person said to me "Make sure they have experience. I mean 15 years
> of experience, not 1 year of experience 15 times over."
>
> If all your children fall easily into unschooling, are very adaptive and
> there's no neurological damage going on.. then you're going to have very
> little rocks in the road with unschooling. It becomes a challange when
> you hit bumps outside the norm. Or when you take on another child that
> you didn't raise and have to deschool them, or *gasp* they are damaged
> beyond repair and now you still need to fit that into a lifestyle.
>
> Experience comes in many shapes and forms. And what about the ones that
> are born into it.. are they more experienced? Or the ones that it comes
> natural and they didn't have to awaken to it? There was no 'aha' it just
> always was and anything outside of it seems strange...
>
> Like I said.. many shapes and forms... I'm not going to judge who's is
> worth more in anyone elses eyes but my own. Which leads to experts.
>
> Even experts with degress might not be considered experts by others at
> all. If you show me your chiropractic expert, I'm going to ask if he is
> Grostic. If not, he's no expert to me. In my eyes.
>
> We all pick our experts that belong to our belief system. In the realm of
> unschooling, I would choose my father for a start.. then think about
> Holt.. then maybe jump over to Lynda because she sums things up in a way
> that I can relate to instantly. I haven't read enough of anyone elses
> information to determine if they are my experts.
>
> Without a bonafide expert. Nor any officially recognized movement, then
> unschooling doesn't have an owner per se. It has advocates. Some of them
> vehemently disagree on certain points. Somehow, there is a commonality
> amongst them, even if the devil is in the details.
>
> With all these advocates, who then has the right, the power, the
> ownership to determine what fits into this term and what doesn't.
>
> Should we use your expert? or my expert? (blanket question, not directed
> at anyone)
>
> NY Times, Washington Post, Globe and Mail.. I haven't seen any
> proclamations that there is a unified group of the unschoolers and they
> have chosen a leader and defined the term. So we're back to square one.
> No nationally recognized experts.
>
> And for that, I'm glad. I remember learning how the AMA established
> itself in courts as the medical experts. So anything alternative isn't
> viable. I would hate to see the same of something so organic as
> unschooling.
>
> There might be factions or groups that look to certain experts. But they
> are congregating in specific places. A group here, a group there. Nothing
> on a nationally established level. So there is no ownership of the word.
> Or a movement en masse that says this is how it has to be if you want to
> be an unschooler.
>
> Therefore, nobody has the right to proclaim it as this or that, and you
> don't belong unless you follow what my group has established.
>
> Lets find the commonalities, like 'the child's agenda', and after that...
> maybe it can grow into something beyond this website, that conference,
> this publication etc. Who know?
>
> Off on a road trip, just me and the kid. I even went as far to get myself
> one of those brain-scrambling cell phones for emergencies.
>
> Going offmail for a bit.. I'll drop in if I get near a computer... enjoy
> the discussion.
>
> kolleen
>
> Mac OS X is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates, Apache inside.
>
> "People take different roads seeking
> fulfillment and happiness. Just
> because they're not on your road
> doesn't mean they've gotten lost."
> -H. Jackson Brown, Jr.
>
>
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