Kolleen

>>>No matter what we do, public school, school at home, or unschooling, Zack
>>>will still reach the age of 18 with the same basic body of knowledge.>>
>
>>Not to nitpick, but that body of knowledge probably won't be exactly the
>>same. IMO the unschooled child's knowledge will be broader, more in-depth,
>>full of life, questioning and ever continuing. However, it may not contain
>>some of the facts, figures, outlines and dates that were forced on a
>>schooled child.
>
>He'll be able to read and write, compute numbers, have an idea of what has
>occured over time (history), a general idea of how our society functions,
>and a sense of the natural world. My opinion is that his attitude and
>outlook on life may be VERY different depending on how he gets there. and
>also his happiness.

Basic knowledge. An interesting term and prolly one that is sought with
more definitions than 'homeschooling' *smile*

The particulars on acadamia never entered my mind. Reading happens
because its an essential part of getting through life. It just happens,
just as life does.

Anything after that is a false sense of what the future holds. We do not
know what technology will invent. What planet we will might be
colonizing. If we give it all up and go back to farming communities. We
just don't know which directions or choices for options we will have in
the future.

MY opinion of basic knowledge is being self-assured. Comfortable in one's
skin and adaptable to changes. Its an inner peace with the security that
facts are just a fingertip away. Its not for wanting/pining that which
you do not have, yet aspirations for a more comfortable lifestyle are not
invalid. Its the ability to be at home in any social setting because one
is at home with themselves. Its the inner peace that allows one to enjoy
the scope of emotions that life offers.. the happiness, the sadness, the
melancholy, the contentment, the anger, the love... life

regards,
kolleen



"People take different roads seeking
fulfillment and happiness. Just
because they're not on your road
doesn't mean they've gotten lost."
-H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

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I think I would term what you described Kolleen, as "an ease in life" All
the stuff that children will learn as they grow will enable them to feel at
ease, have a sort of confidence.
The hard part that I have to face is the co-parents [of zack] that don't
understand any of what we see in children, what we hope to see grow and
bloom as our kids get older. I was trying to explain WHY I don't "worry"
about Zack like they do. The are religious school-at homer's that put Zack
in school as a bribe and to spite me. It's sad, especially since they would
never understand their own feelings about it. They are blinded.
I do worry about him, but for completely different reasons than they do. I
fear their way (the "normal" way) will harm him terribly.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

Katy Clark

After all, what is more important as an adult--knowing how to do a thing or knowing how TO LEARN to do a thing? Do I still remember how to algebra? No, but if I needed to, I would know how to acquire that knowledge.

Katy C.


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Kolleen

>The hard part that I have to face is the co-parents [of zack] that don't
>understand any of what we see in children, what we hope to see grow and
>bloom as our kids get older. I was trying to explain WHY I don't "worry"
>about Zack like they do. The are religious school-at homer's that put Zack
>in school as a bribe and to spite me. It's sad, especially since they would
>never understand their own feelings about it. They are blinded.
>I do worry about him, but for completely different reasons than they do. I
>fear their way (the "normal" way) will harm him terribly.
>~Elissa Cleaveland

Elissa, this is very heartbreaking.. is Zack in school now? Or were you
able to get him out?
Do you guys have shared complete 50/50 custody? Are you trying to
deschool him on the days he's with you? Sorry to sound so nosey, its just
things like this really gets to me.

To be honest, I don't know if this is a growing trend BUT I do know two
people personally that have lost custody for homeschooling (good ol' boy
court club) and one who had to settle for Waldorf in order to keep
custody. This whole scenario upsets my core beleifs.

One of my biggest contention with unschooling and parenting is that if
you don't have support, it can be like swimming upstream because the
sabatoging of one's efforts can only hurt the child(ren) involved.

warm regards,
kolleen

"People take different roads seeking
fulfillment and happiness. Just
because they're not on your road
doesn't mean they've gotten lost."
-H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

Tia Leschke

>
>The hard part that I have to face is the co-parents [of zack] that don't
>understand any of what we see in children, what we hope to see grow and
>bloom as our kids get older. I was trying to explain WHY I don't "worry"
>about Zack like they do. The are religious school-at homer's that put Zack
>in school as a bribe and to spite me. It's sad, especially since they would
>never understand their own feelings about it. They are blinded.
>I do worry about him, but for completely different reasons than they do. I
>fear their way (the "normal" way) will harm him terribly.

I hear you. Same thing happened with my older son. After a year and a
half of unschooling (at least as close as his dad would allow, I was forced
to put him back in school. At 8 months pregnant, I didn't feel I could
handle a court battle, and Noah didn't want me to fight anymore. Going
back to school was the worst thing that could have happened to him. I hope
things work out better for Zack.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

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Thanks for the kind words Tia.
I have been doing some research into bringing him up here. I want it to be
HIS choice but I plan to do some HEAVY lobbying! ;o)

~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

Tia Leschke

>Thanks for the kind words Tia.
>I have been doing some research into bringing him up here. I want it to be
>HIS choice but I plan to do some HEAVY lobbying! ;o)

Does his father have custody? I forget how old he is. Would your ex
agree? I hope it all works out for you.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island