Re: Alternatives to college
Jeff & Diane Gwirtz
I have a question - not an answer for you Susan. Sorry! I also have a 19
year old daughter who works full time and goes to college part time.
She's interested in doing more travelling, maybe even an actual move
or two. How has your daughter financed the travel? What have you,
(or others) done about health insurance for older kids? Our daughter
is still covered because she is a student and we pay part of her
support, but if things change, we could lose our coverage. I know
these aren't interesting questions, but they're the practical ones
that bug me :-)
Diane from KS
jagwirtz@...
year old daughter who works full time and goes to college part time.
She's interested in doing more travelling, maybe even an actual move
or two. How has your daughter financed the travel? What have you,
(or others) done about health insurance for older kids? Our daughter
is still covered because she is a student and we pay part of her
support, but if things change, we could lose our coverage. I know
these aren't interesting questions, but they're the practical ones
that bug me :-)
Diane from KS
jagwirtz@...
[email protected]
My daughter is presenting a workshop this Saturday on alternatives to
college. She's 19 and decided a couple of years ago that college wasn't in
her best interest right now.
Do any of you have older children (or ARE any of you older children!) who are
involved in interesting pursuits outside of college life? My daughter has
been traveling quite a bit and has learned enormous amounts of wonderful
things. She's presenting herself as an example, but it would be really
interesting to be able to talk about others as well...
Thanks! Now I'll have to look in all the attachments to see if there are any
responses (I'm the one who complained about having to download digest
attachments)!
Susan
Susan
college. She's 19 and decided a couple of years ago that college wasn't in
her best interest right now.
Do any of you have older children (or ARE any of you older children!) who are
involved in interesting pursuits outside of college life? My daughter has
been traveling quite a bit and has learned enormous amounts of wonderful
things. She's presenting herself as an example, but it would be really
interesting to be able to talk about others as well...
Thanks! Now I'll have to look in all the attachments to see if there are any
responses (I'm the one who complained about having to download digest
attachments)!
Susan
Susan
[email protected]
<<How has your daughter financed the travel?>>
Well, her first big independent venture was last year. She hopped on an
Amtrak train and took it across the country to Oregon to visit a friend in
Eugene. She had a three-stop pass and planned to stay with her friend, her
cousin in L.A. and then to meet up with us at the end of our trip to Texas.
Her lodging expenses were nil and Amtrak was fairly inexpensive and she used
her savings. She loved traveling by train and watching the world.
Health insurance is really a pain. She can be covered by an inexpensive
program for six months out of the year (with a very high deductible)
according to state law, but the other six months we haven't faced yet and
I'm not sure how it's going to be handled. Luckily she's very healthy.
She's been out to NJ twice in the last few months to visit a friend who has
taken her into NYCity a few times and up into New England a bit. It's been
wonderful--he was born and raised in Brooklyn and really knows his way around
(he was amazed that she took out her billfold to get money in a public
place, for instance--something that she wouldn't have thought twice about).
Once she took the bus and the other time the train (train's her preference).
She's home now (just pulled in last night!) and will resume work at a food
co-op in town. She's getting money together from that and other sources to
travel again in January, maybe a several-week trip this time. She doesn't
know what she wants to do with her life in terms of supporting herself, but
then neither do a LOT of kids in college. She has learned ENORMOUS amounts
of things and has gained such poise. That's certainly going to help her in
any pursuit.
When I think of how this child was at the age of five--permanently affixed to
me--it's nothing short of amazing that she's now gallivanting around the
country!
Diane, does your daughter know where she wants to go?
Susan
Well, her first big independent venture was last year. She hopped on an
Amtrak train and took it across the country to Oregon to visit a friend in
Eugene. She had a three-stop pass and planned to stay with her friend, her
cousin in L.A. and then to meet up with us at the end of our trip to Texas.
Her lodging expenses were nil and Amtrak was fairly inexpensive and she used
her savings. She loved traveling by train and watching the world.
Health insurance is really a pain. She can be covered by an inexpensive
program for six months out of the year (with a very high deductible)
according to state law, but the other six months we haven't faced yet and
I'm not sure how it's going to be handled. Luckily she's very healthy.
She's been out to NJ twice in the last few months to visit a friend who has
taken her into NYCity a few times and up into New England a bit. It's been
wonderful--he was born and raised in Brooklyn and really knows his way around
(he was amazed that she took out her billfold to get money in a public
place, for instance--something that she wouldn't have thought twice about).
Once she took the bus and the other time the train (train's her preference).
She's home now (just pulled in last night!) and will resume work at a food
co-op in town. She's getting money together from that and other sources to
travel again in January, maybe a several-week trip this time. She doesn't
know what she wants to do with her life in terms of supporting herself, but
then neither do a LOT of kids in college. She has learned ENORMOUS amounts
of things and has gained such poise. That's certainly going to help her in
any pursuit.
When I think of how this child was at the age of five--permanently affixed to
me--it's nothing short of amazing that she's now gallivanting around the
country!
Diane, does your daughter know where she wants to go?
Susan
Jeff & Diane Gwirtz
> Diane, does your daughter know where she wants to go?She's mentioned several places - one of them Eugene, Oregon - small
world, huh? This year, her big change has been moving out on her
own (with two roommates). For now, she's really enjoying that, and
that's where most of her money goes. They have managed to take a
canoe trip to Arkansas, and a trip to a concert in Colorado. She's
lived in this town since she was 9, so she figures she has a lot of
world to see. She wants to get a little college under her belt,
have some experience living on her own, but not too far away, and
then maybe take the plunge. I guess only time will tell.
It sounds like your daughter has had some great adventures.
Travelling by train sounds wonderful - and tell her, I wouldn't think
twice about taking my wallet out in public either. You learn
something every day!
Diane from KS
jagwirtz@...
Joseph A. & Susan D. Fuerst
Hey all,
This discussion reminded me of a co-worker I knew about three yrs ago (I
resigned 1.5 yrs sgo when child #3 came along).... Anyhow,
Andy was our Special Events Coordinator. It was his first job out of
college, so he was 21-22. After working with us for about a year or 18
mos., Andy decide to join Mercy Corps., which is along the lines of the
Peace Corps, only it's in the United States. He wanted to do it to for
several reasons, one of which was that it enabled him to explore another
part of the country. He went to New Mexico and worked at an american indian
reservation school. he got a small stipend which he used to travel in that
region of the country...and I guess he saved a bit from his year of work.
Just tossing that idea out there!
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff & Diane Gwirtz <jagwirtz@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Alternatives to college
This discussion reminded me of a co-worker I knew about three yrs ago (I
resigned 1.5 yrs sgo when child #3 came along).... Anyhow,
Andy was our Special Events Coordinator. It was his first job out of
college, so he was 21-22. After working with us for about a year or 18
mos., Andy decide to join Mercy Corps., which is along the lines of the
Peace Corps, only it's in the United States. He wanted to do it to for
several reasons, one of which was that it enabled him to explore another
part of the country. He went to New Mexico and worked at an american indian
reservation school. he got a small stipend which he used to travel in that
region of the country...and I guess he saved a bit from his year of work.
Just tossing that idea out there!
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff & Diane Gwirtz <jagwirtz@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Alternatives to college
>From: "Jeff & Diane Gwirtz" <jagwirtz@...>
>
>> Diane, does your daughter know where she wants to go?
>
>She's mentioned several places - one of them Eugene, Oregon - small
>world, huh? This year, her big change has been moving out on her
>own (with two roommates). For now, she's really enjoying that, and
>that's where most of her money goes. They have managed to take a
>canoe trip to Arkansas, and a trip to a concert in Colorado. She's
>lived in this town since she was 9, so she figures she has a lot of
>world to see. She wants to get a little college under her belt,
>have some experience living on her own, but not too far away, and
>then maybe take the plunge. I guess only time will tell.
>
>It sounds like your daughter has had some great adventures.
>Travelling by train sounds wonderful - and tell her, I wouldn't think
>twice about taking my wallet out in public either. You learn
>something every day!
>
>Diane from KS
>jagwirtz@...
>
>>Check it out!
>http://www.unschooling.com
>
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/23/99 8:50:20 PM, jagwirtz@... writes:
<<- and tell her, I wouldn't think
twice about taking my wallet out in public either. You learn
something every day!>>
OK, I have to know. In places where it is risky to flash your wallet, how do
you pay for anything? I'd like to learn.
Betsy
<<- and tell her, I wouldn't think
twice about taking my wallet out in public either. You learn
something every day!>>
OK, I have to know. In places where it is risky to flash your wallet, how do
you pay for anything? I'd like to learn.
Betsy
[email protected]
susan,
two of my adult siblings who were homeschooled all the way thru chose
alternatives to college. one, an art institute the other a culinary
institute. these sound schoolish but enabled them to go more directly to
hands on and avoid much of the core curric. that they had no interest in.
brother (the chef) has worked as a chef for 7? years now and has included a
mississippi river cruise and hawaiian cruise as well as restaurants in two
other cities as part of his education and travel! he is currently pursuing
an overseas job where he would work for room and board combined with some
time off to see the area but is coming up short due to many regulations of
working in another country. if anyone has any info that might be helpful to
him, i would happily pass it on! my sis (art institute) worked freelance
thruout her time there (some paid, some not) and this summer after graduation
has happily secured a full time position in her preferred area, yea! is
happy with it so far. in both of them i have been encouraged to see them
having a much clearer picture of their strengths and interests early on and
of course the freedom to pursue them, too!
erin
two of my adult siblings who were homeschooled all the way thru chose
alternatives to college. one, an art institute the other a culinary
institute. these sound schoolish but enabled them to go more directly to
hands on and avoid much of the core curric. that they had no interest in.
brother (the chef) has worked as a chef for 7? years now and has included a
mississippi river cruise and hawaiian cruise as well as restaurants in two
other cities as part of his education and travel! he is currently pursuing
an overseas job where he would work for room and board combined with some
time off to see the area but is coming up short due to many regulations of
working in another country. if anyone has any info that might be helpful to
him, i would happily pass it on! my sis (art institute) worked freelance
thruout her time there (some paid, some not) and this summer after graduation
has happily secured a full time position in her preferred area, yea! is
happy with it so far. in both of them i have been encouraged to see them
having a much clearer picture of their strengths and interests early on and
of course the freedom to pursue them, too!
erin