Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] JUST JOINED! What do you know about NATURAL MATH???
Lynda
Even Sudbury's have mandatory attendance rules and since they are
democractic institutions, they really wouldn't qualify as "pure" unschooling
but rather eclectic or relaxed style schools.
If everyone in your house sat down and voted on what to do "unschooling"
wise and 3 out of 5 voted to do workbooks on a daily basis, you wouldn't
call it unschooling. so why call a school that operates on that basis an
"unschooling" school?
Not to say that I don't think Sudbury's are great. If one has to have ps,
then I vote for all to become Sudbury schools.
Lynda
democractic institutions, they really wouldn't qualify as "pure" unschooling
but rather eclectic or relaxed style schools.
If everyone in your house sat down and voted on what to do "unschooling"
wise and 3 out of 5 voted to do workbooks on a daily basis, you wouldn't
call it unschooling. so why call a school that operates on that basis an
"unschooling" school?
Not to say that I don't think Sudbury's are great. If one has to have ps,
then I vote for all to become Sudbury schools.
Lynda
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NATURAL MATH???
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> Lynda wrote:
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> > An "unschool" school??? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.
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> I would consider Sudbury Valley schools to be an unschool school.
> Maybe it should be an unschooling institution though instead of
> school. (And if that particular program actually follows the
> Sudbury Valley model.)
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on 2/17/02 3:25 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
staying on campus. (And mandatory attendence may be a state requirement.)
Some parents do set their own rules that the kids need to stay on the school
grounds.
stepping on each others' rights.
Or at least that's how it is at the original in Framiningham MA.
Joyce
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> Even Sudbury's have mandatory attendance rulesIf there are attendance rules, the rules just apply to showing up, not to
staying on campus. (And mandatory attendence may be a state requirement.)
Some parents do set their own rules that the kids need to stay on the school
grounds.
> If everyone in your house sat down and voted on what to do "unschooling"They don't vote on what or how to learn. They vote on rules to avoid
> wise and 3 out of 5 voted to do workbooks on a daily basis, you wouldn't
> call it unschooling. so why call a school that operates on that basis an
> "unschooling" school?
stepping on each others' rights.
Or at least that's how it is at the original in Framiningham MA.
Joyce
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kaydeecross
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
attend homeschool in NY according to state law required hours. I
can't avoid it at home anymore than they can avoid it in their
institution.
The democratic process doesn't mean that the ones that want to do
workbooks can make the others do it by voting on it. It means that
the budget, the staff (there are no teachers) members are voted in or
out, and other non-cirruculum stuff is voted on. They also use a
judicial committee to handle complaints between students. So in
essence, its the non-coercive parenting type things that are
democratic. The cirriculum is not. Each child is allowed to pursue
their own paths. If a bunch of them get-together because they all
want to learn something like basket-weaving, then they can vote it
into the budget to hire a bonafide basket-weaver to teach them.
The age mixing, the ability to have many kinds of adults around of
with differing abilities to help you when you want to pursue
something is, in my opinion, far better than unschooling at home.
SV has a basic set of principles, then each school develops it's
own 'flavour' in addition to the principles that allow them to be
called Sudbury.
regards,
kolleen
> Even Sudbury's have mandatory attendance rules and since they areunschooling
> democractic institutions, they really wouldn't qualify as "pure"
> but rather eclectic or relaxed style schools.do "unschooling"
>
> If everyone in your house sat down and voted on what to
> wise and 3 out of 5 voted to do workbooks on a daily basis, youwouldn't
> call it unschooling. so why call a school that operates on thatbasis an
> "unschooling" school?Attendance is based upon state laws. Just like my son is required to
attend homeschool in NY according to state law required hours. I
can't avoid it at home anymore than they can avoid it in their
institution.
The democratic process doesn't mean that the ones that want to do
workbooks can make the others do it by voting on it. It means that
the budget, the staff (there are no teachers) members are voted in or
out, and other non-cirruculum stuff is voted on. They also use a
judicial committee to handle complaints between students. So in
essence, its the non-coercive parenting type things that are
democratic. The cirriculum is not. Each child is allowed to pursue
their own paths. If a bunch of them get-together because they all
want to learn something like basket-weaving, then they can vote it
into the budget to hire a bonafide basket-weaver to teach them.
The age mixing, the ability to have many kinds of adults around of
with differing abilities to help you when you want to pursue
something is, in my opinion, far better than unschooling at home.
SV has a basic set of principles, then each school develops it's
own 'flavour' in addition to the principles that allow them to be
called Sudbury.
regards,
kolleen