Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Help, my kids are reading !?
Bonni Sollars
Corina, how wonderful and exciting for you! I don't think we need to
tell them to sound it out. Sometimes when we say bossy stuff like that,
we are telling them how to read, instead of letting them be free to
figure their own way to do it. It might be helpful to show them how to
sound out by syllable at a time when they are not in the middle of
reading. But maybe their brain wants to do it a different way? Anyway,
it's polite to give someone information when they ask for it. When my
kids say, "What is this word?" I tell them.
Bonni
tell them to sound it out. Sometimes when we say bossy stuff like that,
we are telling them how to read, instead of letting them be free to
figure their own way to do it. It might be helpful to show them how to
sound out by syllable at a time when they are not in the middle of
reading. But maybe their brain wants to do it a different way? Anyway,
it's polite to give someone information when they ask for it. When my
kids say, "What is this word?" I tell them.
Bonni
Corina Crane
hi!
I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote Montesorri). No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've known for a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very simple - Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I just want to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
Corina
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I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote Montesorri). No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've known for a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very simple - Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I just want to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
Corina
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<<YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? >>
I would probably say, "If you need anyhelp let me know" and then wait for
them to ask.
You might also want to ask, "How do you want me to help you?"
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay!
-----Original Message-----
From: Corina Crane <corina_crane@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Help, my kids are reading !?
stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American",
"Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't
know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything.
He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the
same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words.
When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old
appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know
he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
"Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or
went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314
of them!" LOL
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? >>
I would probably say, "If you need anyhelp let me know" and then wait for
them to ask.
You might also want to ask, "How do you want me to help you?"
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay!
-----Original Message-----
From: Corina Crane <corina_crane@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Help, my kids are reading !?
>No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started reading. And hasn't
>hi!
>
>I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
>
>My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote Montesorri).
stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American",
"Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't
know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything.
He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
>a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we read constantly
>Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've known for
around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the
same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
>Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started sounding out the
>So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very simple -
words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words.
When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old
appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know
he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
>sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading.
>Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
>to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy time and say
>Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I just want
"Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or
went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314
of them!" LOL
>
>Corina
>
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Hurray! Corina!
I LOVE this story...your children are SO fortunate to have a mom who "gets
it" with unschooling...and has allowed to thrive!!!
Susan
stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American",
"Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't
know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything.
He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the
same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words.
When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old
appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know
he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
"Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or
went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314
of them!" LOL
I LOVE this story...your children are SO fortunate to have a mom who "gets
it" with unschooling...and has allowed to thrive!!!
Susan
>No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started reading. And hasn't
> hi!
>
> I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
>
> My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote Montesorri).
stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now reads "Scientific American",
"Lord of the Rings", anything! When he did come across a word he didn't
know, I just gave it to him, didn't ask him to "sound it out" or anything.
He knows phonics (kids pick that up naturally, I believe)
>for a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we read constantly
> Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've known
around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon and monkey start with the
same letter!" and they know to read left to right.
>Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started sounding out the
> So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very simple -
words! I was very impressed! He read the books sounding out all the words.
When he came to "the" and "and" I just gave him the words. My 5 year old
appears more like his older brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know
he might sound the first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
>sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading.
> Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
>to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy time and say
> Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I just want
"Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never touched a workbook or
went to school and listen to a teacher say a is for apple. Let's draw 314
of them!" LOL
>
> Corina
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Corina Crane <corina_crane@y...>
wrote:
reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now
reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he
did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't
ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick
that up naturally, I believe)
read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon
and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to
right.
sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books
sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just
gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older
brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the
first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?
time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never
touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is
for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
wrote:
>Montesorri). No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started
> hi!
>
> I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
>
> My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote
reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now
reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he
did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't
ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick
that up naturally, I believe)
>known for a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we
> Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've
read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon
and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to
right.
>simple - Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started
> So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very
sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books
sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just
gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older
brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the
first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
>children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment
> Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?
>just want to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy
> Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I
time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never
touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is
for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
>
> Corina
>
>
>
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joanna514
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Corina Crane <corina_crane@y...>
wrote:
Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making
children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?>>>>>>
I think a change in the wording would take it from *making*, to
offering.
Like "Do you want to try and sound it out?".
I do that with my son
only occasionally, because his answer is usually "no" (he just wants
quick information). But, if he enjoyed it, he would probably say yes
and try it more often. No pressure either way.
Joanna
reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now
reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he
did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't
ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick
that up naturally, I believe)
read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon
and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to
right.
sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books
sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just
gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older
brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the
first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?
time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never
touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is
for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
wrote:
Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making
children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?>>>>>>
I think a change in the wording would take it from *making*, to
offering.
Like "Do you want to try and sound it out?".
I do that with my son
only occasionally, because his answer is usually "no" (he just wants
quick information). But, if he enjoyed it, he would probably say yes
and try it more often. No pressure either way.
Joanna
>Montesorri). No sounding out, no figuring, no nothing. Just started
> hi!
>
> I have a thought, or a question, or something :)
>
> My oldest (now 11) started reading sponutaneously (to quote
reading. And hasn't stopped since. 3 years of reading and he now
reads "Scientific American", "Lord of the Rings", anything! When he
did come across a word he didn't know, I just gave it to him, didn't
ask him to "sound it out" or anything. He knows phonics (kids pick
that up naturally, I believe)
>known for a while that they had the pre-reading skills because we
> Well...now my youngest 2 aged 5 and 7 have decided to read! I've
read constantly around here. They'd do things like "hey mom, moon
and monkey start with the same letter!" and they know to read left to
right.
>simple - Mat. Mat sat. Mat sat on Sam. etc. My 7 year old started
> So we went to the library and picked out BOB books. They're very
sounding out the words! I was very impressed! He read the books
sounding out all the words. When he came to "the" and "and" I just
gave him the words. My 5 year old appears more like his older
brother. When he comes to word he doesn't know he might sound the
first sound and then just goes with what he thinks.
>children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment
> Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making
of reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out
himself and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any
thoughts?
>just want to walk up to people who don't always give me such an easy
> Oh, I'm just so excited about this! See, unschooling works! I
time and say "Look, they can read! They know phonics! They never
touched a workbook or went to school and listen to a teacher say a is
for apple. Let's draw 314 of them!" LOL
>
> Corina
>
>
>
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In a message dated 2/7/02 9:57:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
corina_crane@... writes:
<< Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children
sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading.
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts? >>
My dd sounds out and is learning to read phonetically. Her choice. Its the
only
way that makes sense to her. She doesn't like the bob books because its too
much like memorization to her and she feels that she doesn't really know how
to "read" the word she just remembers the text. My next child appears to
be more of a visual whole word learner. She has also told me that she only
likes to learn words when she is using them herself (writing valentines for
instance). If she can't use it or doesn't currently need it she thinks its
ridiculous to study/practice it. Well, okie then <g>
Kathy
corina_crane@... writes:
<< Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making children
sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading.
YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts? >>
My dd sounds out and is learning to read phonetically. Her choice. Its the
only
way that makes sense to her. She doesn't like the bob books because its too
much like memorization to her and she feels that she doesn't really know how
to "read" the word she just remembers the text. My next child appears to
be more of a visual whole word learner. She has also told me that she only
likes to learn words when she is using them herself (writing valentines for
instance). If she can't use it or doesn't currently need it she thinks its
ridiculous to study/practice it. Well, okie then <g>
Kathy
psam ordener
> Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making childrenSome children learn to read phonetically, and some are sight readers. My
> sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of reading.
> YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself and actually
> enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts? >>
firstborn and I are sight readers and seldom misspell a word; once we've
seen it we have it for life.
My younger son has to sound out words phonetically to figure them out. I
say, whatever works for the child should be used. If your child likes to
sound them out, and is auditory enough to need that style of learning, go
for it!
psam
psamo@...
Motherhood - not just a job, it's an Adventure!
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Corina Crane <corina_crane@y...>
wrote:
reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself
and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
say, "You know, you could try to sound it out if I'm ever not right
here. Do you want me to show you how?" Sometimes he let me sound it,
sometimes not.
It seems to walk the line pretty well I think, but then he is a
special set of circumstances in himself and is not just really
unschooled so I'm not sure. It was never really and issue with the
girls.
Bridget
wrote:
>children sound out words was cruel and took away from the enjoyment of
> Ok, so here's the question. I have always believed that making
reading. YET...my 7 year old seems capable of working it out himself
and actually enjoys it. Should I say "sound it out"? Any thoughts?
>My answer with Wyndham has always been to tell him the word but then
> Corina
>
>
say, "You know, you could try to sound it out if I'm ever not right
here. Do you want me to show you how?" Sometimes he let me sound it,
sometimes not.
It seems to walk the line pretty well I think, but then he is a
special set of circumstances in himself and is not just really
unschooled so I'm not sure. It was never really and issue with the
girls.
Bridget