Lynda

While a couple of folks are sending around all these rules and regulations
that they feel are somehow compatible with unschooling but sound more like
school at home to me, perhaps they should take it up with the list owner.

And, as to the "take it off-list" segment of those suggestions, half the
time when you have a "take it off-list" policy, you end up with flame wars
which end up right back on the list.

So, on the list of how to post and other suggestions, my suggestion is that
you take it up with the list owner.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fetteroll" <fetteroll@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Subjects of substance WAS: new andinneedof
support


> on 1/31/02 2:59 AM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
>
> > Perhaps the person should be silenced in that particular thread.
>
> And if you grant *a segment* of the population the right to silence
someone
> for reasons you agree with then you grant *a segment* of the population
the
> right to silence someone for reasons you *disagree* with. What if a vocal
> group of fundamentalists decides Harry Potter and Halloween shouldn't be
> discussed here since some fundamentalists left because of such
discussions?
> (Or pick some other subject that might bother some people that you feel
> strongly in favor of.)
>
> If everyone agreed (or no one disagreed) that something should be a
certain
> way, then it should be changed to be that way. But I think the length and
> number of people involved in this particular discussion makes it pretty
> clear that not everyone does agree.
>
> > Anyone who has ever done public speaking knows that you can do one of
two
> > things, do it your way regardless of the audience and hope that at least
> > someone in the audience "gets" what you are saying OR you can gage your
> > approach so that it fits the immediate situation.
>
> How about the option of *knowing* that a segment of the population that
> *won't* be reached another way *is* getting it?
>
> I think the 2nd choice is valuable to someone whose goals are to reach as
> many people as possible. What if that isn't someone's goal? What if
they're
> goal is to reach the type of people that are best helped by their method?
>
> Why should there be just one goal for everyone who speaks in public?
>
> But I think a suggestion should be added to the "potential email
reminders"
> that people should feel free to delete the posts of anyone whose style
> annoys them.
>
> Joyce
>
>
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on 2/1/02 3:05 AM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:

> While a couple of folks are sending around all these rules and regulations
> that they feel are somehow compatible with unschooling but sound more like
> school at home to me, perhaps they should take it up with the list owner.

The suggested emails were sent to the list so *the list* could have input
and constructively criticize them. Or discuss how the whole thing isn't a
good idea. Or offer something else. Had I wanted to railroad my ideas
through I would have taken up Helen's offer to be a moderator and sent them
out in an official capacity as a done deal. But I feel strongly that the
list should decide how to moderate itself and what the role of the
moderators is, not the moderators. Others are certainly welcome to their own
strong feelings and to make their own suggestions.

If you have problems with the language then please quote and suggest
something different. "Sounds more like school at home" is too vague to be
helpful.

> And, as to the "take it off-list" segment of those suggestions, half the
> time when you have a "take it off-list" policy, you end up with flame wars
> which end up right back on the list.

Can you see how a flame war could start -- whether caused by something on
list or off -- if there's a policy of no discussions about the discussion?
I'm willing to clarify the wording if you can suggest something.

Though I think contacting someone is the mature way to handle personal
differences, some people can feel free to say things privately that they
wouldn't dare say on list. Perhaps a suggestion that people keep all
correspondence dealing with a difficult poster until the differences are
settled so everyone keeps in mind that anything they say privately can be
turned over to the moderators? I'm not sure that's the best solution or not.
Suggestions/discussion are more than welcome.

> So, on the list of how to post and other suggestions, my suggestion is that
> you take it up with the list owner.

That's a possibility. I'll ask Helen before putting her on as a contact. Or
perhaps as the contact if the moderators can't resolve something. She's
mentioned a number of times over the years that she trusts people to be able
to monitor themselves. I interpret that as meaning she doesn't want to be
our babysitter. I will check to make sure I wasn't assuming too much.

Joyce


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