Karin

I have not been receiving many of the messages posted lately.
I am wondering if this is a yahoo problem or a problem with my ISP.
Is anyone else experiencing a problem like this?

Karin


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Sarah Carothers

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:04:32 -0700, Karin wrote:
>I have not been receiving many of the messages posted
>lately.
>I am wondering if this is a yahoo problem or a problem
>with my ISP.
>Is anyone else experiencing a problem like this?
>
>Karin

Hello Karin,
I think there's something going on that has nothing to do with the ISP you are using. I have experienced problems with several lists I'm on as well as this one (occasionally). Cindy, didn't you post something one time about how or rather, why these things happen? I can't remember the details, but you had a good explanation as I recall.
--
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Lynda

I've been getting messages in a hit or miss way. Sometimes they come a day
or even a week late. Sometimes the questions come hours or days after the
answer. I think ol' Yahoo has gotten too big for its britches and can't
handle the latest merger.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karin" <curtkar@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


> I have not been receiving many of the messages posted lately.
> I am wondering if this is a yahoo problem or a problem with my ISP.
> Is anyone else experiencing a problem like this?
>
> Karin
>
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:01:44 -0800, Lynda wrote:
>the latest merger

They had *another* merger?! yikes. They already dominate the lists scene, what next?!
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Karin

Thanks Lynda for sharing your experiences. That has been happening to me too. This morning I got a few messages from yesterday afternoon and yesterday I hardly got any messages. We're also going through an apparently difficult conversion process because of the excite@home bankruptcy so I was wondering if the problem was on my end. Maybe it is a little of both and the prescription is a dose of patience - I hope.

Karin




----- Original Message -----
From: Lynda
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


I've been getting messages in a hit or miss way. Sometimes they come a day
or even a week late. Sometimes the questions come hours or days after the
answer. I think ol' Yahoo has gotten too big for its britches and can't
handle the latest merger.

Lynda


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Karin

Thanks Sarah for describing your recent list problems. Now I know I'm not the only one experiencing them.

Karin



----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:04:32 -0700, Karin wrote:
>I have not been receiving many of the messages posted
>lately.
>I am wondering if this is a yahoo problem or a problem
>with my ISP.
>Is anyone else experiencing a problem like this?
>
>Karin

Hello Karin,
I think there's something going on that has nothing to do with the ISP you are using. I have experienced problems with several lists I'm on as well as this one (occasionally). Cindy, didn't you post something one time about how or rather, why these things happen? I can't remember the details, but you had a good explanation as I recall.
--
Sarah Carothers, puddles@... on 01/25/2002


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Karin

Thanks Lynda for sharing your experiences. That has been happening to me too. This morning I got a few messages from yesterday afternoon and yesterday I hardly got any messages. We're also going through an apparently difficult conversion process because of the excite@home bankruptcy so I was wondering if the problem was on my end. Maybe it is a little of both and the prescription is a dose of patience - I hope.

Karin



----- Original Message -----
From: Lynda
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


I've been getting messages in a hit or miss way. Sometimes they come a day
or even a week late. Sometimes the questions come hours or days after the
answer. I think ol' Yahoo has gotten too big for its britches and can't
handle the latest merger.

Lynda


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Lynda

Noooooo, I'm too old to be patient now.

Lynda, suffering from severe mommy of teenagers syndrome <g>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karin" <curtkar@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


> Thanks Lynda for sharing your experiences. That has been happening to me
too. This morning I got a few messages from yesterday afternoon and
yesterday I hardly got any messages. We're also going through an apparently
difficult conversion process because of the excite@home bankruptcy so I was
wondering if the problem was on my end. Maybe it is a little of both and the
prescription is a dose of patience - I hope.
>
> Karin
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lynda
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages
>
>
> I've been getting messages in a hit or miss way. Sometimes they come a
day
> or even a week late. Sometimes the questions come hours or days after
the
> answer. I think ol' Yahoo has gotten too big for its britches and can't
> handle the latest merger.
>
> Lynda
>
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:35:27 -0800, Lynda wrote:
>Noooooo, I'm too old to be patient now.
>
>Lynda, suffering from severe mommy of teenagers
>syndrome <g>

Is THAT what's happening to me?! Geesh, I only have one teenager! I can't imagine what the mother of more than one does! %-} Goes crazy alot, I suppose...
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Lynda

It is a ripple effect <g> Besides, I have so many ripples in my pond now
(started with homeschooling 5 kids in the 60's), that I have lost count.

Lynda, officially not responsible any more because she has multiple cases of
mommy brain <g>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:35:27 -0800, Lynda wrote:
> >Noooooo, I'm too old to be patient now.
> >
> >Lynda, suffering from severe mommy of teenagers
> >syndrome <g>
>
> Is THAT what's happening to me?! Geesh, I only have one teenager! I can't
imagine what the mother of more than one does! %-} Goes crazy alot, I
suppose...
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So regarding teenagers, what is it that those of us with preteens have to look forward to?
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:35:27 -0800, Lynda wrote:
>Noooooo, I'm too old to be patient now.
>
>Lynda, suffering from severe mommy of teenagers
>syndrome <g>

Is THAT what's happening to me?! Geesh, I only have one teenager! I can't imagine what the mother of more than one does! %-} Goes crazy alot, I suppose...
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rumpleteasermom

I can't speak for any but myself but . . .
I feel like I'm living in a group commune. There are now six adults
here that span three generations. There is only 1 'child' left and
he sometimes seems to have a few too many parents. But it all works
out pretty well.

Rachel went to a friends house last night and, well lets just say
they are the opposite of what a good family should be and leave it at
that. I asked her if she realized how much better her life is when
she got home. She does. We talked about how the way the dad is
handling the current situation is only making it worse. At 16 she
understands more about human nature than many adults I know.

Then there is Jenni who is reacting to the "socialization" question
in a rather interesting manner. Her current mantra is "Socialization,
schmocialization, who needs it? I'm gonna be a hermit and read for
the rest of my life!" This was prompted by the mother in the above
named family who told her that she should get out there and mingle
more.

It is interesting around here! We took an exchange student this year
too so we have that added dynamic. Sometimes it feels like a college
dorm here. So many people, so many interests, such interesting
discussion.

Bridget

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@y...>
wrote:
> So regarding teenagers, what is it that those of us with preteens
have to look forward to?
> Pat

Lynda

Don't ask, Pat. In some cases ignorance is bliss <g>

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


> So regarding teenagers, what is it that those of us with preteens have to
look forward to?
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sarah Carothers
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:35:27 -0800, Lynda wrote:
> >Noooooo, I'm too old to be patient now.
> >
> >Lynda, suffering from severe mommy of teenagers
> >syndrome <g>
>
> Is THAT what's happening to me?! Geesh, I only have one teenager! I can't
imagine what the mother of more than one does! %-} Goes crazy alot, I
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Well, tell Jenni she can come join my commune as soon as I find the land I
am looking for to buy! I still have about 30 boxes of books I haven't
gotten around to reading, so we'll be stocked for awhile <g>

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "rumpleteasermom" <rumpleteasermom@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 7:35 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: problem with messages


> I can't speak for any but myself but . . .
> I feel like I'm living in a group commune. There are now six adults
> here that span three generations. There is only 1 'child' left and
> he sometimes seems to have a few too many parents. But it all works
> out pretty well.
>
> Rachel went to a friends house last night and, well lets just say
> they are the opposite of what a good family should be and leave it at
> that. I asked her if she realized how much better her life is when
> she got home. She does. We talked about how the way the dad is
> handling the current situation is only making it worse. At 16 she
> understands more about human nature than many adults I know.
>
> Then there is Jenni who is reacting to the "socialization" question
> in a rather interesting manner. Her current mantra is "Socialization,
> schmocialization, who needs it? I'm gonna be a hermit and read for
> the rest of my life!" This was prompted by the mother in the above
> named family who told her that she should get out there and mingle
> more.
>
> It is interesting around here! We took an exchange student this year
> too so we have that added dynamic. Sometimes it feels like a college
> dorm here. So many people, so many interests, such interesting
> discussion.
>
> Bridget
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@y...>
> wrote:
> > So regarding teenagers, what is it that those of us with preteens
> have to look forward to?
> > Pat
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:12:11 -0800, Lynda wrote:
>Don't ask, Pat.  In some cases ignorance is bliss <g>
>
>Lynda

Lynda is right, Pat <g>. The less you know <BWG>
Now, if you have some specific questions you'd like to ask us old ladies with teens, I'm sure we could accomadate you with answers.
<ggg>
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Pat Cald...

I just like to have some understanding of what to expect. It has helped me with my preteen dd. It is easier to let some things just slide if I know they fall into the normal category.

Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:12:11 -0800, Lynda wrote:
>Don't ask, Pat. In some cases ignorance is bliss <g>
>
>Lynda

Lynda is right, Pat <g>. The less you know <BWG>
Now, if you have some specific questions you'd like to ask us old ladies with teens, I'm sure we could accomadate you with answers.
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Cindy

"Pat Cald..." wrote:
>
> I just like to have some understanding of what to expect. It has helped me with my preteen dd. It is easier to let some things just slide if I know they fall into the normal category.
>

Maybe you could find some books on teen development. I'm not there with
my children but I find the Gesell Institute's books on the younger ones
helpful. It lets me know that what they are doing is a normal developmental
stage. I think it could be harder to find good teen development books
since that seems to be a time in our children's lives which gets such
bad press.

--

Cindy Ferguson
crma@...

rumpleteasermom

While we are on the socialization thing sort of:
Rachel went to the high school dance with our exchange student last
night. She learned that she definitely does NOT want to go to high
school! One of the local hs groups is planning adance and she can't
figure out why the would want to!

Bridget

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
> Well, tell Jenni she can come join my commune as soon as I find the
land I
> am looking for to buy! I still have about 30 boxes of books I
haven't
> gotten around to reading, so we'll be stocked for awhile <g>
>
> Lynda

Leslie Moyer

Cindy wrote:
+ I think it could be harder to find good teen development books
+ since that seems to be a time in our children's lives which gets such
+ bad press.

Nah--it's not hard to find good teen books. Lots of them out there.
Unfortunately, many are geared to discussing *school* issues, though.

--Leslie MOyer

rumpleteasermom

I think the trouble with teens is that ours are all different!
That's as it should be but most of the information is geared toward
the cogs being turned out by the public school system.

But overall, I think it would benefit us to stop thinking of them as
a homogenous group that something can be expected of.

Bridget



--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Leslie Moyer" <LeslieMoyer@g...>
wrote:

> Nah--it's not hard to find good teen books. Lots of them out there.
> Unfortunately, many are geared to discussing *school* issues,
though.
>
> --Leslie MOyer

Sarah Carothers

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:23:17 -0000, rumpleteasermom wrote:
>I think the trouble with teens is that ours are all
>different!
>That's as it should be but most of the information is
>geared toward
>the cogs being turned out by the public school system.

Back to the question (sorry.. I've lost who actually posed the question... Pat?)
Each child is different but overall, my experience with teens is that a hs'ed teen is more calm, more mature in *all* aspects of life, and is 99% of the time a joy to be with. Then, that one percent... that's the hormonal time that you can do nothing about except to stay out of their way!
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Lynda

The bottomline, IMHO, with teens is to recognize going into it that there is
no such thing as "what to expect" or "normal developmental stages" or
anything else. This is the stage in your child's life when they and their
bodies become totally individual. There are absolutely no two alike at any
given "stage" or even at any given hour, day or week. This is the time when
they really start to unfurl their wings and "test" the boundaries. Some are
going to just glide on through all the physical and emotional changes going
on in their bodies and minds and others are going to struggle and fight
their way through this time.

Mom needs a good shoulder to lean on, a readily available safety net to
catch them if they fall and lots and lots of patience.

I personally feel that unschooling kidlets have an advantage. They don't
spend 8 hours aday with the constant peer pressure. They have had the
opportunity to learn how to make decisions, to form their own set of values
and, the most important part IMNSHO, already know that they are an equal and
valued member of their family, not "just a kid."

Lynda, who is probably CAM once again <g>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages


> I just like to have some understanding of what to expect. It has helped
me with my preteen dd. It is easier to let some things just slide if I know
they fall into the normal category.
>
> Pat
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sarah Carothers
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] problem with messages
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:12:11 -0800, Lynda wrote:
> >Don't ask, Pat. In some cases ignorance is bliss <g>
> >
> >Lynda
>
> Lynda is right, Pat <g>. The less you know <BWG>
> Now, if you have some specific questions you'd like to ask us old ladies
with teens, I'm sure we could accomadate you with answers.
> <ggg>
> --
> Sarah Carothers, puddles@... on 01/27/2002
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