test prep suggestions
Sarah Carothers
I'm researching SAT test prep courses and resources.
Does anybody have a suggestion?
TIA,
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...: puddles@...
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Does anybody have a suggestion?
TIA,
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...: puddles@...
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Marvin K. Mooney
<delurk> I did very well in high school and it did not seem that there is much one can do to prepare aside from reading a *lot* your entire life...and taking the test more than once...most people's grades go up that second time...at any rate...
Sarah Carothers <puddles@...> wrote: I'm researching SAT test prep courses and resources.
Does anybody have a suggestion?
TIA,
Sarah Carothers
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rumpleteasermom
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Sarah Carothers <puddles@t...> wrote:
librarian. Of course, she hangs out at the library a LOT.
Here are some sites with test prep offers, the first also has a list
of books one page in.
http://www.sat-acttestprep.com/
http://www.testu.com/frameset.asp
http://www.prepusa.net/
THESE are free sites I think:
http://www.number2.com/
http://www.review.com/index.cfm
http://www.powerprep.com/
http://www.studyhall.com/
http://englishplus.com/
http://www.go-student.com/
.
http://www.kagi.com/edicom/v_test1.html
http://www.legalstudies.com/SATtest.html
http://www.4tests.com/
Bridget
> I'm researching SAT test prep courses and resources.Rachel found a good test prep book for the ACT by asking the
> Does anybody have a suggestion?
> TIA,
>
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@t...: puddles@t...
>
librarian. Of course, she hangs out at the library a LOT.
Here are some sites with test prep offers, the first also has a list
of books one page in.
http://www.sat-acttestprep.com/
http://www.testu.com/frameset.asp
http://www.prepusa.net/
THESE are free sites I think:
http://www.number2.com/
http://www.review.com/index.cfm
http://www.powerprep.com/
http://www.studyhall.com/
http://englishplus.com/
http://www.go-student.com/
.
http://www.kagi.com/edicom/v_test1.html
http://www.legalstudies.com/SATtest.html
http://www.4tests.com/
Bridget
Sarah Carothers
Hey there Marvin K Mooney! Man, I never thought I'd be writing to
you! <g> Thanks for your response.
I was not specific enough in my post so I'll add to it now. DD has
never been in a classroom setting so when she went to take the SAT,
that had an affect on her (distracting and so on). Also, she didn't
do any test prep work which she normally does when taking the
required standardized test here in NC. (Iowa Test of basic skills is
the one we use).
I know there are books galore for test prep but more specifically I
should have asked: has anybody ever tried a prep class like .... at
a Sylvan Learning Center or your local community college? If so, what
was your opinion of the experience?
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
you! <g> Thanks for your response.
I was not specific enough in my post so I'll add to it now. DD has
never been in a classroom setting so when she went to take the SAT,
that had an affect on her (distracting and so on). Also, she didn't
do any test prep work which she normally does when taking the
required standardized test here in NC. (Iowa Test of basic skills is
the one we use).
I know there are books galore for test prep but more specifically I
should have asked: has anybody ever tried a prep class like .... at
a Sylvan Learning Center or your local community college? If so, what
was your opinion of the experience?
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:22:32 -0800 (PST), Marvin K. Mooney wrote:
>
><delurk> I did very well in high school and it did not
>seem that there is much one can do to prepare aside
>from reading a *lot* your entire life...and taking the
>test more than once...most people's grades go up that
>second time...at any rate...
> Sarah Carothers <puddles@...> wrote: I'm
>researching SAT test prep courses and resources.
>Does anybody have a suggestion?
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Lynda
I've always recommended the Princeton Review http://www.review.com/index.cfm
Lynda
Lynda
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From: "rumpleteasermom" <rumpleteasermom@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: test prep suggestions
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Sarah Carothers <puddles@t...> wrote:
> > I'm researching SAT test prep courses and resources.
> > Does anybody have a suggestion?
> > TIA,
> >
> > Sarah Carothers
> > puddles@t...: puddles@t...
> >
>
> Rachel found a good test prep book for the ACT by asking the
> librarian. Of course, she hangs out at the library a LOT.
>
> Here are some sites with test prep offers, the first also has a list
> of books one page in.
>
> http://www.sat-acttestprep.com/
>
> http://www.testu.com/frameset.asp
>
> http://www.prepusa.net/
>
> THESE are free sites I think:
>
> http://www.number2.com/
>
> http://www.review.com/index.cfm
>
> http://www.powerprep.com/
>
> http://www.studyhall.com/
>
> http://englishplus.com/
>
> http://www.go-student.com/
> .
> http://www.kagi.com/edicom/v_test1.html
>
> http://www.legalstudies.com/SATtest.html
>
> http://www.4tests.com/
>
>
> Bridget
>
>
>
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Lynda
A lot of those classes are a mixed bag. They are either offering the
classes for remedial work (kids who did really poorly and need all the help
they can get to squeek in the door) or they are hardcore for kids that can
pass the test but are going to try to get the highest score possible.
You might want to consider a test prep thing like Princeton Review
http://www.review.com/index.cfm and then work on test taking strategies.
All the kids I worked with at the high school who did the Princeton Review
did much better than the ones who took the classes.
Lynda
classes for remedial work (kids who did really poorly and need all the help
they can get to squeek in the door) or they are hardcore for kids that can
pass the test but are going to try to get the highest score possible.
You might want to consider a test prep thing like Princeton Review
http://www.review.com/index.cfm and then work on test taking strategies.
All the kids I worked with at the high school who did the Princeton Review
did much better than the ones who took the classes.
Lynda
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From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] test prep suggestions
> Hey there Marvin K Mooney! Man, I never thought I'd be writing to
> you! <g> Thanks for your response.
> I was not specific enough in my post so I'll add to it now. DD has
> never been in a classroom setting so when she went to take the SAT,
> that had an affect on her (distracting and so on). Also, she didn't
> do any test prep work which she normally does when taking the
> required standardized test here in NC. (Iowa Test of basic skills is
> the one we use).
> I know there are books galore for test prep but more specifically I
> should have asked: has anybody ever tried a prep class like .... at
> a Sylvan Learning Center or your local community college? If so, what
> was your opinion of the experience?
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
> havabentley@...
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:22:32 -0800 (PST), Marvin K. Mooney wrote:
> >
> ><delurk> I did very well in high school and it did not
> >seem that there is much one can do to prepare aside
> >from reading a *lot* your entire life...and taking the
> >test more than once...most people's grades go up that
> >second time...at any rate...
> > Sarah Carothers <puddles@...> wrote: I'm
> >researching SAT test prep courses and resources.
> >Does anybody have a suggestion?
>
>
>
>
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>
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Bluephish
<delurking here>
I haven't tried a class, myself, but my brother and sister both took the Kaplan SAT courses and found them extremely helpful (though definitely pricey). I'm fairly certain that they offer an on-line prep course as well as one in a classroom setting.
Take care,
Amber
I haven't tried a class, myself, but my brother and sister both took the Kaplan SAT courses and found them extremely helpful (though definitely pricey). I'm fairly certain that they offer an on-line prep course as well as one in a classroom setting.
Take care,
Amber
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From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] test prep suggestions
I know there are books galore for test prep but more specifically I
should have asked: has anybody ever tried a prep class like .... at
a Sylvan Learning Center or your local community college? If so, what
was your opinion of the experience?
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
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rumpleteasermom
We never did a prep course like that but given your dd's problems it
might help. Other things that might help are to take the practice
tests with lots of distractions. Put the TV on, have lots of people
in the room, take it at a table in the food court of the nearest
mall, etc. Rachel has always had the ability to blockout distraction
well. She can ignore a marching band passing a train wreck if she is
of a mind to. Learning to ignore distractions when you want to is a
good skill to have in life.
Also, taking lots of practice tests really helps. You need to get a
feel for the exact type of test you are taking. Examine the answers
closely. Look especially for ones that you missed because you
misread the question. Often the same type of question will appear on
the test and knowing to watch for it can help. Does that make
sense? I know what I am trying to say but it isn't quite coming out.
Bridget
-- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Sarah Carothers <puddles@t...> wrote:
might help. Other things that might help are to take the practice
tests with lots of distractions. Put the TV on, have lots of people
in the room, take it at a table in the food court of the nearest
mall, etc. Rachel has always had the ability to blockout distraction
well. She can ignore a marching band passing a train wreck if she is
of a mind to. Learning to ignore distractions when you want to is a
good skill to have in life.
Also, taking lots of practice tests really helps. You need to get a
feel for the exact type of test you are taking. Examine the answers
closely. Look especially for ones that you missed because you
misread the question. Often the same type of question will appear on
the test and knowing to watch for it can help. Does that make
sense? I know what I am trying to say but it isn't quite coming out.
Bridget
-- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Sarah Carothers <puddles@t...> wrote:
> Hey there Marvin K Mooney! Man, I never thought I'd be writing tois
> you! <g> Thanks for your response.
> I was not specific enough in my post so I'll add to it now. DD has
> never been in a classroom setting so when she went to take the SAT,
> that had an affect on her (distracting and so on). Also, she didn't
> do any test prep work which she normally does when taking the
> required standardized test here in NC. (Iowa Test of basic skills
> the one we use).at
> I know there are books galore for test prep but more specifically I
> should have asked: has anybody ever tried a prep class like ....
> a Sylvan Learning Center or your local community college? If so,what
> was your opinion of the experience?
Sarah Carothers
<I've always recommended the Princeton Review
http://www.review.com/index.cfm
Lynda>
Tuition is $799.. I can't handle that :(... wish I could!
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
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http://www.review.com/index.cfm
Lynda>
Tuition is $799.. I can't handle that :(... wish I could!
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
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Sarah Carothers
Thank you, Bridget. I'm going to go through some of those sites you
sent earlier when I get a chance this afternoon. It does make sense,
though, to practice for these {stupid} tests to get used to the
wording and so on.
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
sent earlier when I get a chance this afternoon. It does make sense,
though, to practice for these {stupid} tests to get used to the
wording and so on.
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
havabentley@...
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:28:42 -0000, rumpleteasermom wrote:
>Often the same type of question
>will appear on
>the test and knowing to watch for it can help. Does
>that make
>sense? I know what I am trying to say but it isn't
>quite coming out.
>
>Bridget
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Sarah Carothers
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:25:21 -0800, Lynda wrote:
Review book in hand (borrowed it from a friend last night) and since
the class tuition is so darn high, it looks like this is the only
option I can afford!
Sarah
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>That's good to know because I'm sitting here *with* the Princeton
>All the kids I worked with at the high school who did
>the Princeton Review
>did much better than the ones who took the classes.
>
>Lynda
Review book in hand (borrowed it from a friend last night) and since
the class tuition is so darn high, it looks like this is the only
option I can afford!
Sarah
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Lynda
Brain bubble <g> Most high schools have message boards and lots of the kids
get together for study groups to get ready for the SATs. Sometimes they
have them on the bulletin boards at the local colleges, also.
Also, on the college boards you will sometimes find kids that do tutoring
for SATs and they don't charge to awfully much.
Lynda
get together for study groups to get ready for the SATs. Sometimes they
have them on the bulletin boards at the local colleges, also.
Also, on the college boards you will sometimes find kids that do tutoring
for SATs and they don't charge to awfully much.
Lynda
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From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] test prep suggestions
>
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:25:21 -0800, Lynda wrote:
> >
> >All the kids I worked with at the high school who did
> >the Princeton Review
> >did much better than the ones who took the classes.
> >
> >Lynda
>
> That's good to know because I'm sitting here *with* the Princeton
> Review book in hand (borrowed it from a friend last night) and since
> the class tuition is so darn high, it looks like this is the only
> option I can afford!
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
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Does anyone have any experience with the GED? If so, care to share about
experiences?
living in abundance
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experiences?
living in abundance
lovemary
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Lynda
Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They required
a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community college.
She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they were all
about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book the JC
gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took the test.
She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person <g>) and
passed it with flying colors.
Lynda
a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community college.
She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they were all
about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book the JC
gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took the test.
She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person <g>) and
passed it with flying colors.
Lynda
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: test prep suggestions
> Does anyone have any experience with the GED? If so, care to share about
> experiences?
>
> living in abundance
> lovemary
>
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rumpleteasermom
I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question that
always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
attitudes are changing about it a bit.
Anyone have an opinion?
Bridget
always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
attitudes are changing about it a bit.
Anyone have an opinion?
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
> Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They
required
> a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community
college.
> She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they
were all
> about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book
the JC
> gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took
the test.
> She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person
<g>) and
> passed it with flying colors.
>
> Lynda
Groundhoggirl
IMHO - As time passes and more and more kids choose the
homeschooling/unschooling GED route and not the traditional high school
diploma route, the GED stigma will go away. I wouldn't be surprised if,
within 10- 15, a GED will be looked upon more favorably than a high
school diploma.
I do agree with you, Bridget. Today, I believe there is still a stigma
associated with the GED. But, I think things are already changing for
the better. Those employers who immediately discard applications that
list GED's instead of diplomas are behind-the-times and ignorant of
today's choices in education. It's their loss. I'm not sure I would
want to work for someone who discriminates so readily.
Mimi
homeschooling/unschooling GED route and not the traditional high school
diploma route, the GED stigma will go away. I wouldn't be surprised if,
within 10- 15, a GED will be looked upon more favorably than a high
school diploma.
I do agree with you, Bridget. Today, I believe there is still a stigma
associated with the GED. But, I think things are already changing for
the better. Those employers who immediately discard applications that
list GED's instead of diplomas are behind-the-times and ignorant of
today's choices in education. It's their loss. I'm not sure I would
want to work for someone who discriminates so readily.
Mimi
On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 11:54 AM, rumpleteasermom wrote:
> I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question that
> always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
> a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
> other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
> application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
> they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
> attitudes are changing about it a bit.
>
> Anyone have an opinion?
>
> Bridget
>
>
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
>> Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They
> required
>> a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community
> college.
>> She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they
> were all
>> about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book
> the JC
>> gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took
> the test.
>> She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person
> <g>) and
>> passed it with flying colors.
>>
>> Lynda
>
>
>
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Shyrley
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> I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question thatWhat is a GED?
> always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
> a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
> other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
> application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
> they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
> attitudes are changing about it a bit.
>
> Anyone have an opinion?
>
> Bridget
>
>
Shyrley
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Lynda
I think it depends on the area. I can tell you that the places I've worked
and that hubby has worked (city government, school districts, colleges,
hospitals, private schools, large corporations) just plain don't even look.
Here's the norm. A secretary opens the mail and looks for minimum
qualifications and tags the apps for the reject pile and the look closer
pile. The look closer pile is reviewed for qualifications specific for the
job. References are called. If there are more than about half a dozen that
are equally qualified, then they go into more detail--length of employment
per employer, personal references, questionaires, education (if it isn't a
qualification for the job to begin with), etc.
When the pile is down to the half dozen, an interview committee is put
together and they review the apps, put together a list of questions and go
from there.
It is usually only small businesses that go through and nit pick the things
apart.
Of course, if it is an entry level position, education might have some
bearing on employment.
Lynda
and that hubby has worked (city government, school districts, colleges,
hospitals, private schools, large corporations) just plain don't even look.
Here's the norm. A secretary opens the mail and looks for minimum
qualifications and tags the apps for the reject pile and the look closer
pile. The look closer pile is reviewed for qualifications specific for the
job. References are called. If there are more than about half a dozen that
are equally qualified, then they go into more detail--length of employment
per employer, personal references, questionaires, education (if it isn't a
qualification for the job to begin with), etc.
When the pile is down to the half dozen, an interview committee is put
together and they review the apps, put together a list of questions and go
from there.
It is usually only small businesses that go through and nit pick the things
apart.
Of course, if it is an entry level position, education might have some
bearing on employment.
Lynda
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From: "rumpleteasermom" <rumpleteasermom@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: GED WAS test prep suggestions
> I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question that
> always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
> a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
> other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
> application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
> they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
> attitudes are changing about it a bit.
>
> Anyone have an opinion?
>
> Bridget
>
>
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
> > Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They
> required
> > a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community
> college.
> > She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they
> were all
> > about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book
> the JC
> > gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took
> the test.
> > She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person
> <g>) and
> > passed it with flying colors.
> >
> > Lynda
>
>
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Groundhoggirl
On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 01:00 PM, Shyrley wrote:
Even though I'm a former ps high school teacher, I'm certainly not an
expert on the GED. This is what I believe it is: It is a test young
adults take if, for one reason or another, they do not attend or finish
high school and "earn" a high school diploma. There are many different
reasons for doing this.
Unfortunately, many people still believe that the only reason a person
chooses to take the GED instead of going through high school is because
that kid got kicked out of school, dropped out, or some other "bad"
reasons like that.
At the high school I used to work at, there was a GED program. Most of
the kids in the program were considered to have behavioral problems.
Many had been suspended multiple times from school. This program was
run like a Boot Camp. These poor kids had to wear uniforms, were yelled
at by teachers, and had to follow much stricter rules than the regular
student population. There was even a faculty meeting held where we
were assured that this group of GED kids would be kept as separate from
the regular kids and teachers as much as possible. Their classes were
held in temporary buildings on campus and not in the main building.
I was pretty disgusted by the whole thing.
I think that it's programs like this that help keep the negative stigma
of the GED going.
With the growth of unschooling and homeschooling, however, I really do
believe this will change.
I sincerely hope that my boys will be able to stay out of school and
take their GED when, and if, they choose to.
Mimi
>Hi Shyrley,
>
>
> What is a GED?
>
> Shyrley
>
Even though I'm a former ps high school teacher, I'm certainly not an
expert on the GED. This is what I believe it is: It is a test young
adults take if, for one reason or another, they do not attend or finish
high school and "earn" a high school diploma. There are many different
reasons for doing this.
Unfortunately, many people still believe that the only reason a person
chooses to take the GED instead of going through high school is because
that kid got kicked out of school, dropped out, or some other "bad"
reasons like that.
At the high school I used to work at, there was a GED program. Most of
the kids in the program were considered to have behavioral problems.
Many had been suspended multiple times from school. This program was
run like a Boot Camp. These poor kids had to wear uniforms, were yelled
at by teachers, and had to follow much stricter rules than the regular
student population. There was even a faculty meeting held where we
were assured that this group of GED kids would be kept as separate from
the regular kids and teachers as much as possible. Their classes were
held in temporary buildings on campus and not in the main building.
I was pretty disgusted by the whole thing.
I think that it's programs like this that help keep the negative stigma
of the GED going.
With the growth of unschooling and homeschooling, however, I really do
believe this will change.
I sincerely hope that my boys will be able to stay out of school and
take their GED when, and if, they choose to.
Mimi
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Shyrley
Groundhoggirl wrote:
(ages 16-18) take just the one exam that results in a diploma? In
England we specialise at 16 and study 3 subjects at A level. For example
I studied maths, Chemistry and Biology from 16-18 and took three exams
at 18 which gained me three A levels. A levels are required for
university entry. From the age of 16 therefore I didn't have to waste
time on literature or art or history or anything else that I did not
find interesting. I'm guessing that isn't the same here. Am I right?
Shyrley
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>Right. Now High School Diploma is confusing me. Do High school pupils
> On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 01:00 PM, Shyrley wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > What is a GED?
> >
> > Shyrley
> >
> Hi Shyrley,
>
> Even though I'm a former ps high school teacher, I'm certainly not an
> expert on the GED. This is what I believe it is: It is a test young
> adults take if, for one reason or another, they do not attend or
> finish
> high school and "earn" a high school diploma. There are many
> different
> reasons for doing this.
>
(ages 16-18) take just the one exam that results in a diploma? In
England we specialise at 16 and study 3 subjects at A level. For example
I studied maths, Chemistry and Biology from 16-18 and took three exams
at 18 which gained me three A levels. A levels are required for
university entry. From the age of 16 therefore I didn't have to waste
time on literature or art or history or anything else that I did not
find interesting. I'm guessing that isn't the same here. Am I right?
Shyrley
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Christina Morrissey
Here's a thought...homeschoolers can award their kids their own high school
diplomas...its legal....hence in answer to the application question "High
school diploma? Answer : Yes....
Christina Bothell WA
At 05:54 PM 1/18/2002 +0000, you wrote:
diplomas...its legal....hence in answer to the application question "High
school diploma? Answer : Yes....
Christina Bothell WA
At 05:54 PM 1/18/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question that
>always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
>a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
>other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
>application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
>they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
>attitudes are changing about it a bit.
>
>Anyone have an opinion?
>
>Bridget
>
>
>
>--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
> > Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They
>required
> > a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community
>college.
> > She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they
>were all
> > about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book
>the JC
> > gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took
>the test.
> > She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person
><g>) and
> > passed it with flying colors.
> >
> > Lynda
>
>
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Groundhoggirl
Yes!! Of course, that's the way to do it! Here in Texas, homeschools
are considered private schools. So, I know that a lot of people just
design their own diplomas and present them to their kids when the time
comes they feel they want to graduate and move on.
I've heard of homeschooling groups even having a fancy graduating
ceremony, with diplomas, etc. at the end of their 12th grade.
Shirley, I guess every state is different - so you might have to do some
research to see what the laws are in your state. But, here in Texas,
everything is pretty free and easy. Not only can my boys design their
own diplomas but they can even decide when they should receive them. Of
course, they're only 8 years old, so I guess it'll be a few years,
especially since they can't read and write yet.
Mimi
are considered private schools. So, I know that a lot of people just
design their own diplomas and present them to their kids when the time
comes they feel they want to graduate and move on.
I've heard of homeschooling groups even having a fancy graduating
ceremony, with diplomas, etc. at the end of their 12th grade.
Shirley, I guess every state is different - so you might have to do some
research to see what the laws are in your state. But, here in Texas,
everything is pretty free and easy. Not only can my boys design their
own diplomas but they can even decide when they should receive them. Of
course, they're only 8 years old, so I guess it'll be a few years,
especially since they can't read and write yet.
Mimi
On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 07:18 PM, Christina Morrissey wrote:
> Here's a thought...homeschoolers can award their kids their own high
> school
> diplomas...its legal....hence in answer to the application question
> "High
> school diploma? Answer : Yes....
>
> Christina Bothell WA
>
>
> At 05:54 PM 1/18/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>> I've seen discussions elsewhere about the GED. One question that
>> always comes up is about the potential stigma assosiated with having
>> a GED. I'm not sure if I actually have an opinion one way or the
>> other. I do know several employers who automatically discard and
>> application that lists a GED instead of high school diploma. I think
>> they are wrong and have told a few of them so. I also think that
>> attitudes are changing about it a bit.
>>
>> Anyone have an opinion?
>>
>> Bridget
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
>>> Eldest daughter decided to go to a private business college. They
>> required
>>> a GED. She signed up for GED prep classes at the local community
>> college.
>>> She came home from the first one and said that if that is what they
>> were all
>>> about, forget it, she'd just go take the test. She had some book
>> the JC
>>> gave her and she looked through it for about a week and then took
>> the test.
>>> She even took it early in the morning (she is NOT a morning person
>> <g>) and
>>> passed it with flying colors.
>>>
>>> Lynda
>>
>>
>>
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Heather Woodward
Shyrley,
I was at the top of my class in high school in New York. We didn't "specialize" in anything unless you were in the program to study cosmotology, mechanics or professions which were considered a trade. I did love languages so I took German all the way through high school - and I am still taking classes now - because I enjoy it- but I can't say I was overly prepared in any one area. I did have to take exams put out by the state on NY in Math, English, Science and History - each year and if passed I was awarded a "regents" diploma - which I can't say has done anything for me- that a regular diploma or GED for that matter would have done - I often wonder though....had I been able to spend MORE time on the subjects I really loved - like languages - I could probably have been really proficient by now..... that is what I hope for my children - to be able to go their own way - at their own pace....
Heather
I was at the top of my class in high school in New York. We didn't "specialize" in anything unless you were in the program to study cosmotology, mechanics or professions which were considered a trade. I did love languages so I took German all the way through high school - and I am still taking classes now - because I enjoy it- but I can't say I was overly prepared in any one area. I did have to take exams put out by the state on NY in Math, English, Science and History - each year and if passed I was awarded a "regents" diploma - which I can't say has done anything for me- that a regular diploma or GED for that matter would have done - I often wonder though....had I been able to spend MORE time on the subjects I really loved - like languages - I could probably have been really proficient by now..... that is what I hope for my children - to be able to go their own way - at their own pace....
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: Shyrley
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: GED WAS test prep suggestions
Groundhoggirl wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 01:00 PM, Shyrley wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > What is a GED?
> >
> > Shyrley
> >
> Hi Shyrley,
>
> Even though I'm a former ps high school teacher, I'm certainly not an
> expert on the GED. This is what I believe it is: It is a test young
> adults take if, for one reason or another, they do not attend or
> finish
> high school and "earn" a high school diploma. There are many
> different
> reasons for doing this.
>
Right. Now High School Diploma is confusing me. Do High school pupils
(ages 16-18) take just the one exam that results in a diploma? In
England we specialise at 16 and study 3 subjects at A level. For example
I studied maths, Chemistry and Biology from 16-18 and took three exams
at 18 which gained me three A levels. A levels are required for
university entry. From the age of 16 therefore I didn't have to waste
time on literature or art or history or anything else that I did not
find interesting. I'm guessing that isn't the same here. Am I right?
Shyrley
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rumpleteasermom
I go back and forth on it. Sometimes I think Rachel should just take
the damn thing and be done with it. I know she could pass it. SHe
could have passed it years ago. But then this part of me wants her
to be living proof that you don't need high school to be successful.
She would not be the first to do so but it still would be cool.
In the end, it is up to her.
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Groundhoggirl <groundhoggirl@h...>
wrote:
the damn thing and be done with it. I know she could pass it. SHe
could have passed it years ago. But then this part of me wants her
to be living proof that you don't need high school to be successful.
She would not be the first to do so but it still would be cool.
In the end, it is up to her.
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Groundhoggirl <groundhoggirl@h...>
wrote:
> IMHO - As time passes and more and more kids choose theschool
> homeschooling/unschooling GED route and not the traditional high
> diploma route, the GED stigma will go away. I wouldn't besurprised if,
> within 10- 15, a GED will be looked upon more favorably than a highstigma
> school diploma.
>
> I do agree with you, Bridget. Today, I believe there is still a
> associated with the GED. But, I think things are already changingfor
> the better. Those employers who immediately discard applicationsthat
> list GED's instead of diplomas are behind-the-times and ignorantof
> today's choices in education. It's their loss. I'm not sure Iwould
> want to work for someone who discriminates so readily.
>
> Mimi
>
>