Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
Julie Stauffer
<<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
Means you know what the books say.
My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to college,
much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for all
her years. She is an expert.
Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I agree.
But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to know
that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
Means you know what the books say.
My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to college,
much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for all
her years. She is an expert.
Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I agree.
But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to know
that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
Sarah Carothers
<The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
Maybe a stand up comic?
Sarah
healing or they don't.
Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'd say Dr. Laura needs to find out what her gift is, then because it comes across as smart-*ss remarks rather than helpful insights.
Maybe a stand up comic?
Sarah
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
<<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
Means you know what the books say.
My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to college,
much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for all
her years. She is an expert.
Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I agree.
But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to know
that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
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Pat Cald...
About Dr. Laura, I realize I'm quite out numbered here, but that hasn't stopped me in the past with other things, so I'll comment anyway. Since I analyze everything, it was easy for me to get past the rude, abrasiveness once I figured out that her main interest is to try to help inform her listeners that the behavior the caller has had can cause serious consequences. She understands that in 3 min. it is unlikely she can really help a stranger over the phone. However, if the people listening somehow get the message that, say, it is important for parents to be home with their kids, divorce can be devastating to children, certain behavior is destructive to marriages, yada yada yada, then maybe she has helped someone. She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed clinical psychologist, that preferably mothers need to be home with their kids for at least the first year, even why she speaks to people the way she does and uses the words she uses. She is a very religious person and uses her religious beliefs in forming some of her opinions. I don't hold that against her. I try to put personalities aside and listen to what people are saying, sometimes it is what I choose to agree with, sometimes not.
Pat
From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
<The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
Maybe a stand up comic?
Sarah
Pat
From: Sarah Carothers
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
<The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'd say Dr. Laura needs to find out what her gift is, then because it comes across as smart-*ss remarks rather than helpful insights.
Maybe a stand up comic?
Sarah
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
<<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
Means you know what the books say.
My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to college,
much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for all
her years. She is an expert.
Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I agree.
But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to know
that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift of
healing or they don't.
Julie
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Sarah Carothers
Pat wrote:
<She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed clinical psychologist,>
Curious. Why isn't she licensed any longer?
Sarah
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<She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed clinical psychologist,>
Curious. Why isn't she licensed any longer?
Sarah
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Pat Cald...
Regarding my comments
<She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed clinical psychologist,>
Sarah wrote:
Pat
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<She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed clinical psychologist,>
Sarah wrote:
>Curious. Why isn't she licensed any longer?I don't know the exact reason she got out of private practice however she often speaks disparagingly of the research being published and used and how it often has no scientific basis. The one situation I can remember was regarding adults having sex with children. As I remember, based on a paper that was published, psychologists were no longer to consider incest and other such acts to be harmful to children. Dr. Laura had a real problem with this one and because she made such a stink, it actually was dealt with on the congressional level and the paper discredited.
Pat
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Lynda
Maybe she can get a job as Howard Sterns sidekick???
did anyone else catch the program way back when where she didn't know the
mic was on and she was reaming her son up one side and down the other? Sure
did show her true colors when it comes to child raising!
Lynda
did anyone else catch the program way back when where she didn't know the
mic was on and she was reaming her son up one side and down the other? Sure
did show her true colors when it comes to child raising!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
> <The person either has the gift of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I'd say Dr. Laura needs to find out what her gift is, then because it
comes across as smart-*ss remarks rather than helpful insights.
> Maybe a stand up comic?
> Sarah
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julie Stauffer
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
>
>
> <<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
>
> I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
> Means you know what the books say.
>
> My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to
college,
> much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for
all
> her years. She is an expert.
>
> Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I
agree.
> But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to
know
> that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift
of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
>
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Lynda
I really have to disagree here. She does *not* give callers 3 minutes or
even 3 seconds in some instances. Some folks hardly get their question out
and she cuts them off.
However, my biggest problem with her is that she is a bigot and a hypocrit.
1) "moral health program" "no promiscuity" "no intercourse without
marriage" blah, blah, blah.
This from a woman who posed for nude photos, who was dating a married man
and then lived with her current husband before marrying him. (PLEASE NOTE,
I am not against these things, they are listed as evidence of hypocricy)
2) mothers shouldn't work. She's been working as long as her son has been
alive.
3) claims to be a rabbi (she's a woman, she can't be a rabbi) and a
"prophet"
4) She is not and never has been a clinical psychologist no matter how many
times she says it. She got a certificate as an MFCC.
5) Although she has been on radio making all these claims for 25 years, she
has only had her cert as a MFCC for 12 years. That leaves 13 years of
fraudom.
And, since this needs to not be too long, I will leave off the umpteen
zillion things she has "actively" done to denegrate homosexuals and foster
homophobia.
Lynda
even 3 seconds in some instances. Some folks hardly get their question out
and she cuts them off.
However, my biggest problem with her is that she is a bigot and a hypocrit.
1) "moral health program" "no promiscuity" "no intercourse without
marriage" blah, blah, blah.
This from a woman who posed for nude photos, who was dating a married man
and then lived with her current husband before marrying him. (PLEASE NOTE,
I am not against these things, they are listed as evidence of hypocricy)
2) mothers shouldn't work. She's been working as long as her son has been
alive.
3) claims to be a rabbi (she's a woman, she can't be a rabbi) and a
"prophet"
4) She is not and never has been a clinical psychologist no matter how many
times she says it. She got a certificate as an MFCC.
5) Although she has been on radio making all these claims for 25 years, she
has only had her cert as a MFCC for 12 years. That leaves 13 years of
fraudom.
And, since this needs to not be too long, I will leave off the umpteen
zillion things she has "actively" done to denegrate homosexuals and foster
homophobia.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
> About Dr. Laura, I realize I'm quite out numbered here, but that hasn't
stopped me in the past with other things, so I'll comment anyway. Since I
analyze everything, it was easy for me to get past the rude, abrasiveness
once I figured out that her main interest is to try to help inform her
listeners that the behavior the caller has had can cause serious
consequences. She understands that in 3 min. it is unlikely she can really
help a stranger over the phone. However, if the people listening somehow
get the message that, say, it is important for parents to be home with their
kids, divorce can be devastating to children, certain behavior is
destructive to marriages, yada yada yada, then maybe she has helped someone.
She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed
clinical psychologist, that preferably mothers need to be home with their
kids for at least the first year, even why she speaks to people the way she
does and uses the words she uses. She is a very religious person and uses
her religious beliefs in forming some of her opinions. I don't hold that
against her. I try to put personalities aside and listen to what people are
saying, sometimes it is what I choose to agree with, sometimes not.
>
> Pat
>
> From: Sarah Carothers
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
>
>
> <The person either has the gift of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I'd say Dr. Laura needs to find out what her gift is, then because it
comes across as smart-*ss remarks rather than helpful insights.
> Maybe a stand up comic?
> Sarah
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julie Stauffer
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
>
>
> <<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
>
> I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
> Means you know what the books say.
>
> My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to
college,
> much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for
all
> her years. She is an expert.
>
> Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I
agree.
> But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to
know
> that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift
of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
>
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Lynda
She never was a licensed clinical psychologist. She got her certificate as
a MFCC. Her PhD is in physiology. As far as I know her license lapsed
because she is not practicing nor does she keep up on her ECUs.
Lynda
a MFCC. Her PhD is in physiology. As far as I know her license lapsed
because she is not practicing nor does she keep up on her ECUs.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
> Pat wrote:
> <She often mentions what her PhD is in, that she is no longer a licensed
clinical psychologist,>
>
> Curious. Why isn't she licensed any longer?
> Sarah
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Tami Labig-Duquette
LOL, that would be embarassing. Never have heard her (on radio), dont think
I would care to after reading this thread.
Indiana Tami
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:39:49 -0800
Maybe she can get a job as Howard Sterns sidekick???
did anyone else catch the program way back when where she didn't know the
mic was on and she was reaming her son up one side and down the other? Sure
did show her true colors when it comes to child raising!
Lynda
I would care to after reading this thread.
Indiana Tami
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:39:49 -0800
Maybe she can get a job as Howard Sterns sidekick???
did anyone else catch the program way back when where she didn't know the
mic was on and she was reaming her son up one side and down the other? Sure
did show her true colors when it comes to child raising!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
> <The person either has the gift of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I'd say Dr. Laura needs to find out what her gift is, then because it
comes across as smart-*ss remarks rather than helpful insights.
> Maybe a stand up comic?
> Sarah
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julie Stauffer
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
>
>
> <<to at least have some clue about what they are doing>>
>
> I agree. But having a degree or training doesn't mean you have a clue.
> Means you know what the books say.
>
> My grandmother is the best vet I know. She has never even been to
college,
> much less vet school. But she has lived with animals of all types for
all
> her years. She is an expert.
>
> Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I
agree.
> But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to
know
> that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift
of
> healing or they don't.
>
> Julie
>
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on 1/11/02 9:02 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
Conservative Jews have ordained women rabbis since 1985 and Reform Jews
since 1972:
Conservative women rabbis recall triumphs, challenges
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010223/iawomenrabbis.shtml
Joyce
> 3) claims to be a rabbi (she's a woman, she can't be a rabbi) and aI don't know about the prophet stuff or whether she actually is a rabbi, but
> "prophet"
Conservative Jews have ordained women rabbis since 1985 and Reform Jews
since 1972:
Conservative women rabbis recall triumphs, challenges
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010223/iawomenrabbis.shtml
Joyce
Tia Leschke
>But "Dr." Laura has neither.
>Now if you want to say you object to misrepresentation, then yes I agree.
>But I have spent enough time with docs, therapists, what have you, to know
>that the sheepskin isn't worth diddly. The person either has the gift of
>healing or they don't.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Lynda
May have changed but I do know you can't "instantly" become a rabbi. She
converted 5 year ago (may be more now) but she claimed within the first 6
months to a year that she was a rabbi.
Lynda
converted 5 year ago (may be more now) but she claimed within the first 6
months to a year that she was a rabbi.
Lynda
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1744
> on 1/11/02 9:02 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
>
> > 3) claims to be a rabbi (she's a woman, she can't be a rabbi) and a
> > "prophet"
>
> I don't know about the prophet stuff or whether she actually is a rabbi,
but
> Conservative Jews have ordained women rabbis since 1985 and Reform Jews
> since 1972:
>
> Conservative women rabbis recall triumphs, challenges
> http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010223/iawomenrabbis.shtml
>
> Joyce
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