even finer?
Annette Naake
Melinda wrote:
I know two sisters who never breastfed any of their children ever,
not even once in the hospital. They never even considered it, and when I
gently questioned them they both said they were formula fed, and they are
fine. Well, they both may be fine, couldn't they perhaps be even "finer"
if
they had been breastfed?
As I said, I don't limit the tv ever, for myself or the kids, just wondering
about the rationale.
Melinda
I have wondered about this myself. For example, I know a number of young
people (in their 20s) who can quote chapter and verse from every TV show
ever made in the 1980s and 90s, along with every rerun, and they seem to
watch quite a bit of TV now as well. They are good people, very bright, and
have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On the other
hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers (as some of
their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had watched less
TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
Does anyone else think that?
Annette
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I know two sisters who never breastfed any of their children ever,
not even once in the hospital. They never even considered it, and when I
gently questioned them they both said they were formula fed, and they are
fine. Well, they both may be fine, couldn't they perhaps be even "finer"
if
they had been breastfed?
As I said, I don't limit the tv ever, for myself or the kids, just wondering
about the rationale.
Melinda
I have wondered about this myself. For example, I know a number of young
people (in their 20s) who can quote chapter and verse from every TV show
ever made in the 1980s and 90s, along with every rerun, and they seem to
watch quite a bit of TV now as well. They are good people, very bright, and
have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On the other
hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers (as some of
their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had watched less
TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
Does anyone else think that?
Annette
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carolyn
I think "more willing to lay back and relax" is a whole lot like
"lazy". Maybe it's the other way around, people who want to lay back
and relax turn the TV on. Chicken or egg, again, methinks.
I'm reminded of a friend I had years ago. She had come here recently
from Hong Kong. She was always telling me how she thought Americans
were different then Chinese people. Americans worked their job, so she
said, and then went home and watched TV and on the weekend looked for
ways to have fun, picnics, outings, etc.
Chinese (she said) go home and do their second job during the evenings
and weekends. Now, she wasn't struggling financially by any means.
Programmer by day and when I knew her, she was starting an import/export
business to trade with China during the evenings and weekends.
Previously, she'd been running a restaurant in her spare time. Last I
heard, by the way, she'd quit her programming job and was in China
helping to eastablish their first ice cream factories.
My point was she never watched TV but I don't think that was the key.
It was the attitude. I probably, no make that I definitely, use the
computer like others use TV. Doesn't make me any more productive in my
life than any TV watcher but I do enjoy it more. I think people who get
real busy doing what they do don't have a lot of time to lay back and
relax and, hopefully, they love what they're doing. Maybe that's the
key. I feel a new year's resolution coming on.
Carolyn
Annette Naake wrote:
"lazy". Maybe it's the other way around, people who want to lay back
and relax turn the TV on. Chicken or egg, again, methinks.
I'm reminded of a friend I had years ago. She had come here recently
from Hong Kong. She was always telling me how she thought Americans
were different then Chinese people. Americans worked their job, so she
said, and then went home and watched TV and on the weekend looked for
ways to have fun, picnics, outings, etc.
Chinese (she said) go home and do their second job during the evenings
and weekends. Now, she wasn't struggling financially by any means.
Programmer by day and when I knew her, she was starting an import/export
business to trade with China during the evenings and weekends.
Previously, she'd been running a restaurant in her spare time. Last I
heard, by the way, she'd quit her programming job and was in China
helping to eastablish their first ice cream factories.
My point was she never watched TV but I don't think that was the key.
It was the attitude. I probably, no make that I definitely, use the
computer like others use TV. Doesn't make me any more productive in my
life than any TV watcher but I do enjoy it more. I think people who get
real busy doing what they do don't have a lot of time to lay back and
relax and, hopefully, they love what they're doing. Maybe that's the
key. I feel a new year's resolution coming on.
Carolyn
Annette Naake wrote:
> I have wondered about this myself. For example, I know a number of[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> young
> people (in their 20s) who can quote chapter and verse from every TV
> show
> ever made in the 1980s and 90s, along with every rerun, and they seem
> to
> watch quite a bit of TV now as well. They are good people, very
> bright, and
> have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On the
> other
> hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers (as
> some of
> their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had watched
> less
> TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what
> I've
> seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and
> relax.
> Does anyone else think that?
>
>
> Annette
Leslie Moyer
+ -----Original Message-----
+ From: Annette Naake [mailto:naake1999@...]
+ They are good people, very bright, and
+ have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On
+ the other
+ hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers
+ (as some of
+ their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had
+ watched less
+ TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
+ seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
Annette,
Maybe they just don't WANT to be doctors or teachers. Maybe they don't want
to work harder....maybe it is more important for them to enjoy their lives
and better the lives of people around them (as you say they have jobs that
"make a difference in our community"). Maybe some of them think that about
stay-at-home moms like me. What's the point of working harder if you don't
enjoy life along the way. Some of the hardest workers I know are very
unhappy, unbalanced people.
Leslie Moyer
+ From: Annette Naake [mailto:naake1999@...]
+ They are good people, very bright, and
+ have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On
+ the other
+ hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers
+ (as some of
+ their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had
+ watched less
+ TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
+ seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
Annette,
Maybe they just don't WANT to be doctors or teachers. Maybe they don't want
to work harder....maybe it is more important for them to enjoy their lives
and better the lives of people around them (as you say they have jobs that
"make a difference in our community"). Maybe some of them think that about
stay-at-home moms like me. What's the point of working harder if you don't
enjoy life along the way. Some of the hardest workers I know are very
unhappy, unbalanced people.
Leslie Moyer
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/1/2002 12:08:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
naake1999@... writes:
get more done. . . is it better to be a doctor or teacher than a garbage man
or a dishwasher? Personally, I think relaxing is a lot more fun than working
really hard. :)
living in abundance
lovemary
The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry - from lifetime
to lifetime.
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naake1999@... writes:
> If anything, from what I'veIs there something wrong with this? Is it "better" to be a "hard worker" and
> seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
> Does anyone else think that?
>
get more done. . . is it better to be a doctor or teacher than a garbage man
or a dishwasher? Personally, I think relaxing is a lot more fun than working
really hard. :)
living in abundance
lovemary
The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry - from lifetime
to lifetime.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Alan Moorehead
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 11:07 AM, Annette Naake wrote:
I'm sorry, but I would like to respectfully disagree with you. What you
wrote really hit a nerve with me. I don't like the idea of anyone
judging me according to how hard I work. How hard I work is no one's
business but my own.
Also, perhaps what you consider to be work, I consider to be play, or
vice versa. Who is to decide what is "work" in the first place. One of
the reasons I choose to unschool is so we can try and eliminate that
division between play and work. I try to just live my life and do what
is necessary in the most relaxed way possible. I am trying to pass this
on to my children. This is one of the big reasons why we have an
unschooling lifestyle.
No one has the right to decide who is a hard worker and who is not. I
don't like the idea of someone imposing his/her values upon me.
Think twice before you judge someone in this regard. Maybe the person
can't "work hard", in your eyes, because of a mental illness, or s/he
has sick children and is under an enormous amount of stress and is
easily overwhelmed, or maybe this person just plain doesn't like to do
what you think is "work" - maybe s/he has other priorities, like
spending time with his/her children. Maybe what is important to you is
not important to me.
Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever week is
because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I can enjoy
many hours of raking leaves all at one time. I love creating a huge
mountain of leaf bags in front of my house. Right now there are 55
bags of leaves in front of my house. I've had a lot of fun doing it
too. My neighbor next door has for a couple of months now given us
dirty looks about the state of our back yard. I choose to work
differently than he does. I like to do it all at once. I'm not lazy.
We're just different. When I was back there raking all those leaves I
was having loads of fun. I suspect my neighbor probably thought I was
finally getting around to doing some really unpleasant work.
Everyone is different and no one should try and judge what, why, when or
how other people do things. We should just try to treat each other
respectfully, with kindness and accept everyone's differences.
Mimi
>Hi Annette,
>
> As I said, I don't limit the tv ever, for myself or the kids, just
> wondering
> about the rationale.
>
> Melinda
> ===============
> I have wondered about this myself. For example, I know a number of young
> people (in their 20s) who can quote chapter and verse from every TV show
> ever made in the 1980s and 90s, along with every rerun, and they seem to
> watch quite a bit of TV now as well. They are good people, very bright,
> and
> have high-paying jobs that make a difference in our community. On the
> other
> hand, they could work harder. They could be doctors or teachers (as
> some of
> their parents were) and they're not. I wonder if had they had watched
> less
> TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
> seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
> Does anyone else think that?
>
>
> Annette
> ================
I'm sorry, but I would like to respectfully disagree with you. What you
wrote really hit a nerve with me. I don't like the idea of anyone
judging me according to how hard I work. How hard I work is no one's
business but my own.
Also, perhaps what you consider to be work, I consider to be play, or
vice versa. Who is to decide what is "work" in the first place. One of
the reasons I choose to unschool is so we can try and eliminate that
division between play and work. I try to just live my life and do what
is necessary in the most relaxed way possible. I am trying to pass this
on to my children. This is one of the big reasons why we have an
unschooling lifestyle.
No one has the right to decide who is a hard worker and who is not. I
don't like the idea of someone imposing his/her values upon me.
Think twice before you judge someone in this regard. Maybe the person
can't "work hard", in your eyes, because of a mental illness, or s/he
has sick children and is under an enormous amount of stress and is
easily overwhelmed, or maybe this person just plain doesn't like to do
what you think is "work" - maybe s/he has other priorities, like
spending time with his/her children. Maybe what is important to you is
not important to me.
Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever week is
because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I can enjoy
many hours of raking leaves all at one time. I love creating a huge
mountain of leaf bags in front of my house. Right now there are 55
bags of leaves in front of my house. I've had a lot of fun doing it
too. My neighbor next door has for a couple of months now given us
dirty looks about the state of our back yard. I choose to work
differently than he does. I like to do it all at once. I'm not lazy.
We're just different. When I was back there raking all those leaves I
was having loads of fun. I suspect my neighbor probably thought I was
finally getting around to doing some really unpleasant work.
Everyone is different and no one should try and judge what, why, when or
how other people do things. We should just try to treat each other
respectfully, with kindness and accept everyone's differences.
Mimi
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Annette Naake wrote:
say that formula-feeding was good enuf for me, I'm fine. Similarly, we can
point to all sorts of smart, successfull people who grew up watching and
continue to watch TV. How much better of would they be had they breastfed
or not watched TV? Personally, I'm of the mind that it's impossible to
know...so many factors, both genetic and environmental, influence health
and personality.
As far as TV goes, we allow my son to watch once a week. Those are the
rules, so he doesn't ask for it on the other days bc he is busy doing
other things, seeing friends, reading, playing and what-have-you.
I think TV is harmful bc it takes away from time kids can be spent doing
other, more productive and imaginative things, like watching clouds float
thru the sky. The images of women and people of color bother me. Its
materialistic emphasis bothers me. Mostly, though, I hate the sound of it,
that ever-present din in the background. I find my own life is richer
w/out it. But that is my own baggage. My brother, on the other hand,
watches tons of TV. He also happens to be a serious and very successful
novelist who lacks nothing in the imagination or hardworking dept. So who
can really say? I guess it just comes down to one's own comfort level.
Best,
Lynn
>I wonder if had they had watched lessI was think something similar WRT to the breastfeeding/TV analogy. People
> TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from what I've
> seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back and relax.
> Does anyone else think that?
say that formula-feeding was good enuf for me, I'm fine. Similarly, we can
point to all sorts of smart, successfull people who grew up watching and
continue to watch TV. How much better of would they be had they breastfed
or not watched TV? Personally, I'm of the mind that it's impossible to
know...so many factors, both genetic and environmental, influence health
and personality.
As far as TV goes, we allow my son to watch once a week. Those are the
rules, so he doesn't ask for it on the other days bc he is busy doing
other things, seeing friends, reading, playing and what-have-you.
I think TV is harmful bc it takes away from time kids can be spent doing
other, more productive and imaginative things, like watching clouds float
thru the sky. The images of women and people of color bother me. Its
materialistic emphasis bothers me. Mostly, though, I hate the sound of it,
that ever-present din in the background. I find my own life is richer
w/out it. But that is my own baggage. My brother, on the other hand,
watches tons of TV. He also happens to be a serious and very successful
novelist who lacks nothing in the imagination or hardworking dept. So who
can really say? I guess it just comes down to one's own comfort level.
Best,
Lynn
Leslie Moyer
+ Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever week is
+ because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I can enjoy
+ many hours of raking leaves all at one time.
And *I* don't rake leaves because my values tell me that the soil is
improved by letting my leaves lay on the ground until they naturally
decompose and replenish the earth with their nutrients.
Again--not an issue of laziness, but of different values.
--Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
+ because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I can enjoy
+ many hours of raking leaves all at one time.
And *I* don't rake leaves because my values tell me that the soil is
improved by letting my leaves lay on the ground until they naturally
decompose and replenish the earth with their nutrients.
Again--not an issue of laziness, but of different values.
--Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
Alan Moorehead
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 11:59 AM, Leslie Moyer wrote:
Mimi
> + Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever week isYes. I totally agree with you here.
> + because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I can
> enjoy
> + many hours of raking leaves all at one time.
>
> And *I* don't rake leaves because my values tell me that the soil is
> improved by letting my leaves lay on the ground until they naturally
> decompose and replenish the earth with their nutrients.
>
> Again--not an issue of laziness, but of different values.
>
> --Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
> =============
Mimi
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+ I think TV is harmful bc it takes away from time kids can be spent doing
+ other, more productive and imaginative things, like watching clouds float
+ thru the sky.
Here's the way we've handled TV in our home.... It's been an ideal
"unschooling" solution in our house. [Reminder: my children are ages 15,
13, and almost 9.]
Several years ago, my older 2 children were watching a lot of TV (or so it
seemed to me). I sat down with them and together we figured out how many
hours per day, week, month, and year they were spending watching TV. (When
we found the yearly figure, it added up to be quite a lot, even though they
didn't watch as much as most kids.) We subtracted hours for sleeping, and
came up with a number of full days they were spending watching TV. (It was
astounding.)
Then we all made a list of fun things to do--go to the zoo, take a walk,
play board games, to to museums, ride bikes, etc. Then we looked at the
list of "fun" things to do and figured up how much time we could be spending
doing more interesting things than watching TV. And then we vowed to do the
interesting things. We talked about how much time THEY wanted to spend
watching TV in a day and which time THEY would rather spend doing more
interesting (to them) things. And we talked about what shows they liked
best and which ones they watched because they were on. Then for a while
after that, when I'd catch them watching TV (particularly something that I
thought was pretty "mindless" or that they had agreed wasn't interesting),
I'd just ask them (not accuse them) if there was something more interesting
they'd rather be doing. Almost always they decided there WAS and they'd (or
we'd) go do it. If they said, "no" then I'd accept that, too. And during
the discussion, I did ask if it was OK with them that I reminded them of
their decision; they said they would like that.
It wasn't a lecture. I didn't even really PLAN it. I hadn't even
pre-figured out what the total hours were--it was just as much a surprise to
me as it was to them. We just had a discussion about what THEY valued.
This exercise helped THEM clarify THEIR value systems--not to impose mine on
them. (Though, personally, I don't have a philosophical problem about
*trying* to pass along my own values....however, I realize it's *easiest* if
I'm working *with* and respecting theirs; not against them.)
We did make an effort to spend more time doing some interesting things, too,
like going to the zoo more often, to the park, spending time outside, etc.
Now my older two don't watch much TV at all, and almost never "mindlessly"
anymore (i.e. out of boredom). My oldest will ONLY watch decidedly
"educational" shows (on Discovery, TLC, and The History Channel, for
example). My youngest child is a real TV "addict", however, and it's
probably time to have the same sort of discussion with her. However, she's
also very active and has lots of other interests and a great imagination.
(I don't see TV affecting her the same way it seemed to affect the older
kids.) And she really never has watched TV "mindlessly". She moves almost
constantly while she's watching (doing dance steps, gymnastics, etc.) and
remembers so much of what she watches. She doesn't "zone out".
Anyway, this solution worked for us in that it wasn't ME imposing rules on
them, but them learning important life skills about setting goals,
clarifying their values and priorities, self-discipline, etc. I just acted
as facilitator of the process. I didn't make TV "forbidden fruit" to them,
but just one more menu choice.
It's what works for us,
Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
+ other, more productive and imaginative things, like watching clouds float
+ thru the sky.
Here's the way we've handled TV in our home.... It's been an ideal
"unschooling" solution in our house. [Reminder: my children are ages 15,
13, and almost 9.]
Several years ago, my older 2 children were watching a lot of TV (or so it
seemed to me). I sat down with them and together we figured out how many
hours per day, week, month, and year they were spending watching TV. (When
we found the yearly figure, it added up to be quite a lot, even though they
didn't watch as much as most kids.) We subtracted hours for sleeping, and
came up with a number of full days they were spending watching TV. (It was
astounding.)
Then we all made a list of fun things to do--go to the zoo, take a walk,
play board games, to to museums, ride bikes, etc. Then we looked at the
list of "fun" things to do and figured up how much time we could be spending
doing more interesting things than watching TV. And then we vowed to do the
interesting things. We talked about how much time THEY wanted to spend
watching TV in a day and which time THEY would rather spend doing more
interesting (to them) things. And we talked about what shows they liked
best and which ones they watched because they were on. Then for a while
after that, when I'd catch them watching TV (particularly something that I
thought was pretty "mindless" or that they had agreed wasn't interesting),
I'd just ask them (not accuse them) if there was something more interesting
they'd rather be doing. Almost always they decided there WAS and they'd (or
we'd) go do it. If they said, "no" then I'd accept that, too. And during
the discussion, I did ask if it was OK with them that I reminded them of
their decision; they said they would like that.
It wasn't a lecture. I didn't even really PLAN it. I hadn't even
pre-figured out what the total hours were--it was just as much a surprise to
me as it was to them. We just had a discussion about what THEY valued.
This exercise helped THEM clarify THEIR value systems--not to impose mine on
them. (Though, personally, I don't have a philosophical problem about
*trying* to pass along my own values....however, I realize it's *easiest* if
I'm working *with* and respecting theirs; not against them.)
We did make an effort to spend more time doing some interesting things, too,
like going to the zoo more often, to the park, spending time outside, etc.
Now my older two don't watch much TV at all, and almost never "mindlessly"
anymore (i.e. out of boredom). My oldest will ONLY watch decidedly
"educational" shows (on Discovery, TLC, and The History Channel, for
example). My youngest child is a real TV "addict", however, and it's
probably time to have the same sort of discussion with her. However, she's
also very active and has lots of other interests and a great imagination.
(I don't see TV affecting her the same way it seemed to affect the older
kids.) And she really never has watched TV "mindlessly". She moves almost
constantly while she's watching (doing dance steps, gymnastics, etc.) and
remembers so much of what she watches. She doesn't "zone out".
Anyway, this solution worked for us in that it wasn't ME imposing rules on
them, but them learning important life skills about setting goals,
clarifying their values and priorities, self-discipline, etc. I just acted
as facilitator of the process. I didn't make TV "forbidden fruit" to them,
but just one more menu choice.
It's what works for us,
Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
rumpleteasermom
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Annette Naake" <naake1999@h...>
wrote:
more important than hard work IMHO.
As I've said here before, I do limit my son's TV. I don't limit my
daughters'. I do encourage those who are havoing specific problems
to look at it and experiment. BUT I do not advocate limiting it for
those not already having other problems. Kind of like I think it is
okay for the mother of a diabetic to montior and limit foods but
think it is unnecessary for the vast majority to monitor foods.
Bridget
ps - John Rosemond talked about TV in his colunm today. I'm sure it's
available online somewhere. WHether you agree or disagree with him,
it's worth a read. I disagree with his assumtion that it works for
all but it was interesting nonetheless.
wrote:
>I wonder if had they had watched less
> TV growing up, would they be harder workers. If anything, from whatI've
> seen, watching TV makes people a bit more willing to lay back andrelax.
> Does anyone else think that?Is that necessarily a bad thing? Relaxation and happiness are much
>
>
> Annette
>
>
more important than hard work IMHO.
As I've said here before, I do limit my son's TV. I don't limit my
daughters'. I do encourage those who are havoing specific problems
to look at it and experiment. BUT I do not advocate limiting it for
those not already having other problems. Kind of like I think it is
okay for the mother of a diabetic to montior and limit foods but
think it is unnecessary for the vast majority to monitor foods.
Bridget
ps - John Rosemond talked about TV in his colunm today. I'm sure it's
available online somewhere. WHether you agree or disagree with him,
it's worth a read. I disagree with his assumtion that it works for
all but it was interesting nonetheless.
Sarah Carothers
Mimi,
<BWG> Maybe you'd like to come to my 'playground'... I have all my
leaves to rake... nary a one has been dealt with this season :-) Come
on over... we'll have a raking party!
Sarah (not too fond of yard work:)
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
<BWG> Maybe you'd like to come to my 'playground'... I have all my
leaves to rake... nary a one has been dealt with this season :-) Come
on over... we'll have a raking party!
Sarah (not too fond of yard work:)
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:52:36 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>
>Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever
>week is
>because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I
>can enjoy
>many hours of raking leaves all at one time. I love creating a
>huge
>mountain of leaf bags in front of my house. Right now there
>are 55
>bags of leaves in front of my house. I've had a lot of fun
>doing it
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Sarah Carothers
Leslie, are you my twin?! LOL... I feel the same way! I only rake a
small grassy area where the dogs poop... the rest is all natural.
Raking leaves? I think I could find something more fun to do with my
days!
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
small grassy area where the dogs poop... the rest is all natural.
Raking leaves? I think I could find something more fun to do with my
days!
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:59:23 -0600, Leslie Moyer wrote:
> Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves
>ever week is
>+ because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so
>I can enjoy
>+ many hours of raking leaves all at one time.
>
>And *I* don't rake leaves because my values tell me that the
>soil is
>improved by letting my leaves lay on the ground until they
>naturally
>decompose and replenish the earth with their nutrients.
>
>Again--not an issue of laziness, but of different values.
>
>--Leslie Moyer / Oklaho
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Alan Moorehead
Yes, Sarah!. I'd love to do that. I'll go to your house and rake
leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a little
bit. Would that be a fair trade?
Mimi
leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a little
bit. Would that be a fair trade?
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:05 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Mimi,
> <BWG> Maybe you'd like to come to my 'playground'... I have all my
> leaves to rake... nary a one has been dealt with this season :-) Come
> on over... we'll have a raking party!
> Sarah (not too fond of yard work:)
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:52:36 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>>
>> Maybe the reason I don't rake my back yard FULL of leaves ever
>> week is
>> because I love to rake leaves and I'm letting it build up so I
>> can enjoy
>> many hours of raking leaves all at one time. I love creating a
>> huge
>> mountain of leaf bags in front of my house. Right now there
>> are 55
>> bags of leaves in front of my house. I've had a lot of fun
>> doing it
>
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Mimi, you have a deal! I'll bring my nifty steam hard-floor cleaner
and get to work (it's so easy with that machine!). Then, while
dusting I'll crank up your stereo to a little Pink Floyd "The Wall"
and be through in no time ;-)
Here's your rake... (need some gloves?)
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
and get to work (it's so easy with that machine!). Then, while
dusting I'll crank up your stereo to a little Pink Floyd "The Wall"
and be through in no time ;-)
Here's your rake... (need some gloves?)
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:12:35 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>Yes, Sarah!. I'd love to do that. I'll go to your house and
>rake
>leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a
>little
>bit. Would that be a fair trade?
>
>Mimi
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Alan Moorehead
Hi Sarah,
Naah, I've got some good gloves already. While you're listening to Pink
Floyd, I'll have my boom box outside and I'll be listening to Meat
Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell". I'll be getting some good aerobic exercise
too!!
Mimi
Naah, I've got some good gloves already. While you're listening to Pink
Floyd, I'll have my boom box outside and I'll be listening to Meat
Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell". I'll be getting some good aerobic exercise
too!!
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:26 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Mimi, you have a deal! I'll bring my nifty steam hard-floor cleaner
> and get to work (it's so easy with that machine!). Then, while
> dusting I'll crank up your stereo to a little Pink Floyd "The Wall"
> and be through in no time ;-)
> Here's your rake... (need some gloves?)
> Sarah
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:12:35 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>> Yes, Sarah!. I'd love to do that. I'll go to your house and
>> rake
>> leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a
>> little
>> bit. Would that be a fair trade?
>>
>> Mimi
>
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:39:43 -0600, Leslie Moyer wrote:
every day I seem more aware that I've spent a great deal of my life
time worrying about something or other and there's no time like the
present to finally find some *joy*.
Like right at this moment. Maybe I should be in the basement
attacking that pile of laundry. Instead, it's so nice sitting here
with 'net friends' chatting and petting my sweet little doggie :-)
Life is good
Sarah
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>What's the point of working harderThat's it. Maybe it's because I'm getting older (approaching 50) but
>if you don't
>enjoy life along the way.
every day I seem more aware that I've spent a great deal of my life
time worrying about something or other and there's no time like the
present to finally find some *joy*.
Like right at this moment. Maybe I should be in the basement
attacking that pile of laundry. Instead, it's so nice sitting here
with 'net friends' chatting and petting my sweet little doggie :-)
Life is good
Sarah
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Alan Moorehead
Yes. I personally believe we only live once and we should enjoy our
lives as much as possible. Try and avoid the unpleasant stuff and have
as much FUN as possible. For me, this is the healthiest approach. I
tend to be a pretty stressed-out person and I am easily overwhelmed. I
am always trying to learn how to relax and not worry about things not
being perfect or worrying about what other people think. It is a very
slow process for me, but I am learning.
Mimi
lives as much as possible. Try and avoid the unpleasant stuff and have
as much FUN as possible. For me, this is the healthiest approach. I
tend to be a pretty stressed-out person and I am easily overwhelmed. I
am always trying to learn how to relax and not worry about things not
being perfect or worrying about what other people think. It is a very
slow process for me, but I am learning.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:39 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:39:43 -0600, Leslie Moyer wrote:
>> What's the point of working harder
>> if you don't
>> enjoy life along the way.
>
> That's it. Maybe it's because I'm getting older (approaching 50) but
> every day I seem more aware that I've spent a great deal of my life
> time worrying about something or other and there's no time like the
> present to finally find some *joy*.
> Like right at this moment. Maybe I should be in the basement
> attacking that pile of laundry. Instead, it's so nice sitting here
> with 'net friends' chatting and petting my sweet little doggie :-)
> Life is good
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
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Sarah Carothers
Hey Mimi! I just went to the yahoogroups.com site and added pics of
my backyard for ya to see the job that's ahead of you. Imagine taping
the pics together for a panoramic view.... :-)<bwg> teehee :-)))
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
my backyard for ya to see the job that's ahead of you. Imagine taping
the pics together for a panoramic view.... :-)<bwg> teehee :-)))
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:30:33 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
> Hi Sarah,
>
>Naah, I've got some good gloves already. While you're listening to
>Pink
>Floyd, I'll have my boom box outside and I'll be listening to Meat
>Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell". I'll be getting some good aerobic
>exercise
>too!!
>
>Mimi
>
>On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:26 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
>
>> Mimi, you have a deal! I'll bring my nifty steam hard-floor
cleaner
>> and get to work (it's so easy with that machine!). Then, while
>> dusting I'll crank up your stereo to a little Pink Floyd "The
Wall"
>> and be through in no time ;-)
>> Here's your rake... (need some gloves?)
>> Sarah
>> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
>> Sarah Carothers
>> puddles@...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:12:35 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>>> Yes, Sarah!. I'd love to do that. I'll go to your house and
>>> rake
>>> leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a
>>> little
>>> bit. Would that be a fair trade?
>>>
>>> Mimi
>>
>>
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Alan Moorehead
I'd love to see them, Sarah, but I'm not sure how to get to that site.
Can you help me? Can you give me a link that I can click on? I'm
afraid I'm still kinda new with this list, email, internet thing.
Mimi
Can you help me? Can you give me a link that I can click on? I'm
afraid I'm still kinda new with this list, email, internet thing.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:58 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Hey Mimi! I just went to the yahoogroups.com site and added pics of
> my backyard for ya to see the job that's ahead of you. Imagine taping
> the pics together for a panoramic view.... :-)<bwg> teehee :-)))
>
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:30:33 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> Naah, I've got some good gloves already. While you're listening to
>> Pink
>> Floyd, I'll have my boom box outside and I'll be listening to Meat
>> Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell". I'll be getting some good aerobic
>> exercise
>> too!!
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:26 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
>>
>>> Mimi, you have a deal! I'll bring my nifty steam hard-floor
> cleaner
>>> and get to work (it's so easy with that machine!). Then, while
>>> dusting I'll crank up your stereo to a little Pink Floyd "The
> Wall"
>>> and be through in no time ;-)
>>> Here's your rake... (need some gloves?)
>>> Sarah
>>> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
>>> Sarah Carothers
>>> puddles@...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:12:35 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>>>> Yes, Sarah!. I'd love to do that. I'll go to your house and
>>>> rake
>>>> leaves while you come to mine and mop my floor and maybe dust a
>>>> little
>>>> bit. Would that be a fair trade?
>>>>
>>>> Mimi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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+ Life is good
+ Sarah
Speaking of "Life is good"....have you seen the t-shirts? Awfully cute...
Here they are: http://lifeisgood.com/shop.html
Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
+ Sarah
Speaking of "Life is good"....have you seen the t-shirts? Awfully cute...
Here they are: http://lifeisgood.com/shop.html
Leslie Moyer / Oklahoma
Sarah Carothers
cute t-shirts!
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:54:51 -0600, Leslie Moyer wrote:
>+ Life is good
>+ Sarah
>
>Speaking of "Life is good"....have you seen the t-shirts? Awfully
>cute...
>Here they are: http://lifeisgood.com/shop.html
>
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Joseph Fuerst
To me, the "This was my experience in childhood and I turned out OK"
argument is logically baseless. Many people who were spanked turned out
OK. Many people who were abused and neglected "turned out OK", many people
who grew up on formula and not breast fed turned out OK. Whne I facilitated
a parenting class a couple of years ago, the spanking argument almost
always contained a strong..."I was spanked and I turned out OK; therefore
spanking contributes to turning out OK." So illogical!
I guess we want to wish we could predict what will make our children be
the best type of people they can be when they're on their own. I know
poeple willing to take on the challenge of unschooling....of thinking about
how they treat their children, etc want to provide the most nurtusing
environment and relationship they can muster. But there are so many
circumstances and events we cannot predict that could impact our
children...there are personality conflicts in families, diseases, all
kinds of things we cannot control. I guess we want the things we can
control to make a difference?
Susan
argument is logically baseless. Many people who were spanked turned out
OK. Many people who were abused and neglected "turned out OK", many people
who grew up on formula and not breast fed turned out OK. Whne I facilitated
a parenting class a couple of years ago, the spanking argument almost
always contained a strong..."I was spanked and I turned out OK; therefore
spanking contributes to turning out OK." So illogical!
I guess we want to wish we could predict what will make our children be
the best type of people they can be when they're on their own. I know
poeple willing to take on the challenge of unschooling....of thinking about
how they treat their children, etc want to provide the most nurtusing
environment and relationship they can muster. But there are so many
circumstances and events we cannot predict that could impact our
children...there are personality conflicts in families, diseases, all
kinds of things we cannot control. I guess we want the things we can
control to make a difference?
Susan
Sarah Carothers
Glad to help!
I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
entered your yahoo name and password.
SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
you created to join this list at yahoo).
Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
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I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
entered your yahoo name and password.
SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
you created to join this list at yahoo).
Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
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Alan Moorehead
Thanks!!! I'll check it out right now. There's no way I'll share
pictures of the inside of our house. It's just too embarrassing.
Today's the first day of a new year - I'm trying to get a handle on
things and make this place more presentable. Are you familiar with
FLYLADY? I get her reminders all day long and I try to follow her
instructions as best as I can.
Mimi
pictures of the inside of our house. It's just too embarrassing.
Today's the first day of a new year - I'm trying to get a handle on
things and make this place more presentable. Are you familiar with
FLYLADY? I get her reminders all day long and I try to follow her
instructions as best as I can.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:06 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Glad to help!
> I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
> entered your yahoo name and password.
> SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
> you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
> you created to join this list at yahoo).
> Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
> groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
> Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
> posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
> You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
> the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
> carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
> right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
> sarah
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
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Nichoel
Flylady is a God-send for me...
My house is so much cleaner, my family more relaxed..and I spend LESS time cleaning now than I did before (I still havent figured out how that works..)
I really believe her system works if you work it =)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Moorehead
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] even finer?
Thanks!!! I'll check it out right now. There's no way I'll share
pictures of the inside of our house. It's just too embarrassing.
Today's the first day of a new year - I'm trying to get a handle on
things and make this place more presentable. Are you familiar with
FLYLADY? I get her reminders all day long and I try to follow her
instructions as best as I can.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:06 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Glad to help!
> I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
> entered your yahoo name and password.
> SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
> you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
> you created to join this list at yahoo).
> Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
> groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
> Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
> posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
> You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
> the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
> carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
> right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
> sarah
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
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Alan Moorehead
WOW!!! What a beautiful back yard. Looks like a few acres, at least.
I'll be right over!! <BBGG>
We live here in Houston, Texas. If I am permitted to ask, where do you
live?
My husband just bought a digital camera for the family, so maybe
sometime soon I'll post some pictures too.
Looks like you have a very beautiful family. You and your girls look
very pretty and you're so lucky to have 3 dogs. You and your husband
look like a very nice couple.
My boys have been begging for a dog, but I have an old cat (14 years
old) that I don't want to upset - I think we'll wait until RoyRoy goes
to pussycat heaven.
I really enjoyed your pictures. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Happy New Year!!
Mimi
I'll be right over!! <BBGG>
We live here in Houston, Texas. If I am permitted to ask, where do you
live?
My husband just bought a digital camera for the family, so maybe
sometime soon I'll post some pictures too.
Looks like you have a very beautiful family. You and your girls look
very pretty and you're so lucky to have 3 dogs. You and your husband
look like a very nice couple.
My boys have been begging for a dog, but I have an old cat (14 years
old) that I don't want to upset - I think we'll wait until RoyRoy goes
to pussycat heaven.
I really enjoyed your pictures. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Happy New Year!!
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:06 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> Glad to help!
> I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
> entered your yahoo name and password.
> SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
> you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
> you created to join this list at yahoo).
> Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
> groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
> Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
> posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
> You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
> the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
> carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
> right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
> sarah
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
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Sarah Carothers
I'm familiar with flylady... I have a friend who has a problem with
clutter and she follows her advice. I think she's made some progress
but imo something like that (being a pack rat or clutter keeper or
whatever) is such a hard thing to undo in your makeup. I'm a pack
rat... keep everything except old emails! But I've learned to
categorize stuff and put it away in an orderly fashion.
And no, no pics of the inside of my house either! It's so dirty (who
mentioned cobwebs???!! lol.. I can relate). I'm doing good just to
vacuum up all the pet hair.
btw, two dogs.. not three (how did you count three? Or did the kids
snick one in on me and I've just not noticed?) <g>
Thanks for the compliments on the pics!
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
clutter and she follows her advice. I think she's made some progress
but imo something like that (being a pack rat or clutter keeper or
whatever) is such a hard thing to undo in your makeup. I'm a pack
rat... keep everything except old emails! But I've learned to
categorize stuff and put it away in an orderly fashion.
And no, no pics of the inside of my house either! It's so dirty (who
mentioned cobwebs???!! lol.. I can relate). I'm doing good just to
vacuum up all the pet hair.
btw, two dogs.. not three (how did you count three? Or did the kids
snick one in on me and I've just not noticed?) <g>
Thanks for the compliments on the pics!
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:14:22 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
> Thanks!!! I'll check it out right now. There's no way I'll
>share
>pictures of the inside of our house. It's just too embarrassing.
>Today's the first day of a new year - I'm trying to get a handle on
>things and make this place more presentable. Are you familiar with
>FLYLADY? I get her reminders all day long and I try to follow her
>instructions as best as I can.
>
>Mimi
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Sarah Carothers
I live in Pfafftown, North Carolina... just outside of Winston-Salem
(10 minutes). I've always lived in NC but I'd love to live out west
someday. Mountains are quite appealing to me <g>.
A digital camera is so much fun! DD got one last year and she's the
photographer of the pics I posted. It's really much cheaper than the
old way; you don't like something and you just delete! Cool! If you
need help once you start uploading or anything, let me know. Between
dd and I, maybe we could be of assistance.
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
(10 minutes). I've always lived in NC but I'd love to live out west
someday. Mountains are quite appealing to me <g>.
A digital camera is so much fun! DD got one last year and she's the
photographer of the pics I posted. It's really much cheaper than the
old way; you don't like something and you just delete! Cool! If you
need help once you start uploading or anything, let me know. Between
dd and I, maybe we could be of assistance.
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:37:30 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>
>We live here in Houston, Texas. If I am permitted to ask,
>where do you
>live?
>
>My husband just bought a digital camera for the family, so
>maybe
>sometime soon I'll post some pictures too.
>
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Alan Moorehead
Hi Sarah,
I know the Carolinas are beautiful. We keep talking about moving. I
definitely want to go north where there is snow. I miss it soooo much.
I've been in Houston over 20 years now and am really ready to leave. I
don't like this climate at all.
I'll try out the digital camera sometime this week. I'll let you know
if I need some help. Thanks.
Mimi
I know the Carolinas are beautiful. We keep talking about moving. I
definitely want to go north where there is snow. I miss it soooo much.
I've been in Houston over 20 years now and am really ready to leave. I
don't like this climate at all.
I'll try out the digital camera sometime this week. I'll let you know
if I need some help. Thanks.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:52 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
> I live in Pfafftown, North Carolina... just outside of Winston-Salem
> (10 minutes). I've always lived in NC but I'd love to live out west
> someday. Mountains are quite appealing to me <g>.
> A digital camera is so much fun! DD got one last year and she's the
> photographer of the pics I posted. It's really much cheaper than the
> old way; you don't like something and you just delete! Cool! If you
> need help once you start uploading or anything, let me know. Between
> dd and I, maybe we could be of assistance.
> Sarah
> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:37:30 -0600, Alan Moorehead wrote:
>>
>> We live here in Houston, Texas. If I am permitted to ask,
>> where do you
>> live?
>>
>> My husband just bought a digital camera for the family, so
>> maybe
>> sometime soon I'll post some pictures too.
>>
>
>
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Alan Moorehead
Hi Nichoel,
I'm still a Flybaby, but I think it will work for me too if I stick with
it and give it a good try. When she starts talking about CHAOS and
being a perfectionist, etc., I feel like she's talking about me. I
relate to what she says very well.
Mimi
I'm still a Flybaby, but I think it will work for me too if I stick with
it and give it a good try. When she starts talking about CHAOS and
being a perfectionist, etc., I feel like she's talking about me. I
relate to what she says very well.
Mimi
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:23 PM, Nichoel wrote:
> Flylady is a God-send for me...
>
> My house is so much cleaner, my family more relaxed..and I spend LESS
> time cleaning now than I did before (I still havent figured out how
> that works..)
>
> I really believe her system works if you work it =)
>
> Nichoel
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Moorehead
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] even finer?
>
>
> Thanks!!! I'll check it out right now. There's no way I'll share
> pictures of the inside of our house. It's just too embarrassing.
> Today's the first day of a new year - I'm trying to get a handle on
> things and make this place more presentable. Are you familiar with
> FLYLADY? I get her reminders all day long and I try to follow her
> instructions as best as I can.
>
> Mimi
>
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 03:06 PM, Sarah Carothers wrote:
>
>> Glad to help!
>> I'd give you the link but it is at a place you get to once you've
>> entered your yahoo name and password.
>> SO... go to http://www.yahoogroups.com
>> you will probably have to sign in... maybe not (it's the same name
>> you created to join this list at yahoo).
>> Then, once you've signed in, on the left of the screen is a list of
>> groups you belong to..... click on the unschoolingdotcom one.
>> Next, on the left of that screen will be a list of things... members,
>> posts, calendar, photos, etc..... click on "photos".
>> You'll then see a screen where anybody can create a photo album for
>> the group. I've created my family one (carothers)... click on
>> carothers. You can choose how to view by some options over on the
>> right side of your screen. If you need help, let me know..
>> sarah
>> ~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
>> Sarah Carothers
>> puddles@...
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> Message boards, timely articles, a free newsletter and more!
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>>
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