Kolleen

> Is there a way to explain your attitude? I am trying to come across
>stronger or something to get family off my back. I don't get their concerns
>really. When they speak to my dd or hear stories of what she said etc. she
>speaks like and adult at 5. She uses larger words than most kids her age and
>correctly. Why are they so damn concerned?
>
> NICKI~


I'd like to hear from lovemary on this also. Although it sounds like it
has a lot to do with self-confidence and a 'state of being'.

They are so concerned because of their fears, and your unschooling
existence threatens a paradigm.

Nicki, if you want to take any of this offlist, I would love to continue
the discussion, it sure sounds like your going through a lot of what I
went through and am still working.

warm regards,
kolleen

Sarah Carothers

NOooooooooooo! Please continue on list... I need the information as
well !!

~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...


On Thu, 27 Dec 01 11:45:05 -0500, Kolleen wrote:
>
>Nicki, if you want to take any of this offlist, I would love to
>continue
>the discussion, it sure sounds like your going through a lot of
>what I
>went through and am still working.
>
>warm regards,
>kolleen




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Kolleen

>NOooooooooooo! Please continue on list... I need the information as
>well !!
>
>~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
>Sarah Carothers


Hi Sarah,
I was not trying to exclude anyone intentionally... !

All I can do is share my experiences and my observations.

And one of those observations is that when people object profusely to an
idea, its because either:
A) you are shaking the ground of their beleif system that doesn't have
solidity to it
B) you are pushing buttons of a past hurt
C) you are bringing up insecurities of decisions they now regret and need
to hold fast that they made the best decision.

When you bring up an idea that is contrary to someone's beleif system and
they don't object, but still hold fast to their ideals, then they are
secure in their choice and themselves as a person.

Lets take (C) for example:

When I refused to go back to NYC after the West Nile incident and they
were spraying pesticides in the streets almost daily, I ended up
'homeless'.

My mother kept telling me how I was hurting the kid by this choice. She
was angry and it was the first time in my life that she kept calling to
give advice. Instead of offering help emotional help (yes, she did pay
my hotel bill for a bit while I was homeless) she kept saying that I was
hurting my child. Then of course, because of her belief, the rest of
family offered their discontent with my choice.

It shook her core that I was willing to do anything to keep my kid out of
a area being inundated with pesticides. It shook her so hard because when
we were kids, she didn't hesitate to use Chlordane (sp) at full strength
whenever she saw anything in the house move. She used to make us scrub
the floor with it.

If she would agree with me about the pesticides, then her choices as a
mother would be up for question in her own mind. Its far easier to refute
the idea, than to forgive yourself for something you *thought* was right.

If any of this hits home for you. Then lets continue to discuss.. geez
I've learned so much from people here.. !

Warm regards,
kolleen

Sarah Carothers

Hi Kolleen,
omg... you hit home in a *big* way with your post. My mind is racing.
I'll have to give this some thought and respond later tonight. Got to
regain my composure!
Sarah
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...


On Thu, 27 Dec 01 14:36:49 -0500, Kolleen wrote:
>
>If any of this hits home for you. Then lets continue to discuss..
>geez
>I've learned so much from people here.. !
>
>Warm regards,
>kolleen




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Tia Leschke

>
>It shook her core that I was willing to do anything to keep my kid out of
>a area being inundated with pesticides. It shook her so hard because when
>we were kids, she didn't hesitate to use Chlordane (sp) at full strength
>whenever she saw anything in the house move. She used to make us scrub
>the floor with it.

Oh yikes! I wonder if that's where the cancer got started. I always
wondered if my dad's bone cancer came from the time(s) he went into the
crawl space under our house to spray DDT for termites or carpenter ants or
something.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Kolleen

>Oh yikes! I wonder if that's where the cancer got started. I always
>wondered if my dad's bone cancer came from the time(s) he went into the
>crawl space under our house to spray DDT for termites or carpenter ants or
>something.
>Tia


I'm SURE that has a lot to do with it. when one's body gets to a certain
toxic level, any predisposition to disease is going to happen and happen
fast.

so far, its holding good. if i can just stay away from viruses long
enough to build up a better immune, it will stay reversed. this will be
the hard part. after all, i live in NYC and its not the healthiest place
to be!

oh, and staying destressed. because emotions and happiness are a BIG key.

warm regards,
kolleen

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On Fri, 28 Dec 01 11:14:16 -0500 Kolleen <Kolleen@...> writes:
> I'm SURE that has a lot to do with it. when one's body gets to a
certain
> toxic level, any predisposition to disease is going to happen and
> happen fast.

It's possible that my mom's very rare thyroid cancer was related to her
being irradiated when she was a child, back in the forties. I can't
remember the exact gland, maybe adrenal? a gland that's often much bigger
in children than adults, but doctors during that time period thought that
was a problem and gave kids large doses of radiation to shrink it...
which worked, except that the gland was supposed to be the size it
was....

Anyway, exposure to radiation is the only known factor that will increase
your chances of developing anaplastic thyroid cancer - and often there
are 20 or more years between exposure and the cancer developing, in my
mom's case it was more like 50 years - but I imagine there are a lot of
other toxic events that happen to people over their lives, and we just
don't know what effect they're having.

One in every three people will eventually develop some kind of cancer...

Dar
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Sarah Carothers

Kolleen,
I'm glad you're doing well and let's home the buggie viruses steer
clear of you!
You're so right about staying de-stressed. It's so easy to get caught
up in situations, isn't it? I have to step outside of myself and
decide if it's worth feeling so bad over (I get skin ulcers under
stress). Usually I can quickly decide things are not worth the pain!
~xx~ ~xx~ ~xx~
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...


On Fri, 28 Dec 01 11:14:16 -0500, Kolleen wrote:
>
>oh, and staying destressed. because emotions and happiness are a
>BIG key.
>
>warm regards,
>kolleen




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Kolleen

>It's possible that my mom's very rare thyroid cancer was related to her
>being irradiated when she was a child, back in the forties. I can't
>remember the exact gland, maybe adrenal? a gland that's often much bigger
>in children than adults, but doctors during that time period thought that
>was a problem and gave kids large doses of radiation to shrink it...
>which worked, except that the gland was supposed to be the size it
>was....

>Dar

Thats the thymus gland.

in healthy adults, it doesn't shrink and is one of best immune boosters
going. but alas we are a toxic society and it does shrink as we get older.

radiation! whew! your mom must of had some great constitution that it
took 50 years to catch up...

amazing how conventional science can look back only a few years and see
how much damage they've done, yet they still refute findings throughout
the world that contradict their current practices.

ego. somehow it all comes down to *wanting* to be right as opposed to
working towards a greater good.

regards,
kolleen