Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Stem cell research
Kolleen
>Mimi writes:Good luck and lots of loving thoughts...!
>If he stays in remission (and we fully
>expect him to, he's doing so well!), on August 27, 2004 he will be
>considered CURED!
>I wish the people whoI see it from a different angle as far as research. But hopefully they
>are so against it could visit Texas Children's Hospital Bone Marrow Unit
>and the HEMONC Clinic and watch these kids fighting for their lives and
>also watch the very tired, loving, and caring doctors who fight with
>them. They truly are heroes. They saved my boy's life.
conventional ways will come full circle and catch up to the other great
research that is going on, and also in practice, throughout the world.
And yes, stem cell research is important!
>My 2 boys are the reasons why I support stem-cell research.[snipped out of order because below is a controversial and scary rant]
Mimi, you are truly blessed for having the courage to keep up a great
attitude. If you ever wish to hear about how alternate therapys (sorry,
its all out of the US though), then please email me offline.
>A mild virus triggered it's onset.Okay, you can flame me from here until then end of time, but 'This is the
most important sentence right now that anyone can read.'
There is research that is going on that is not available to the public.
Research from the people in high level clearence only of the CDC and WHO,
and private scientists that are aware.
We are currently inundated with low level virus that is triggering more
and more onset disease and speeding up current disease. Whether these
virus' (or is it virii) are mademade or have developed naturally (the
rise and fall of naturally occuring plagues) is irrevelent. It's the fact
that this just might lead to a major plague and then subside is the part
that these people are interested in.
I have seen myself go from nothing, I mean *nothing* in my breast (I just
had a mammography done in September) to a full grown, rooted to the back
and spine, malignant breast tumor in just 6 weeks by being constantly
exposed to these virii.
There is a certain, and extremely expensive, test that a municipality can
order to test for these virii in the water system. Most of them won't or
are of the belief that anything the federal goverment tells them is
gospel. NYC refuted the evidence that would compel them to do the testing.
I have nothing to gain by posting this. I have lots to lose (beyond the
flaming) - I post because I feel compelled to share this in case just
even one person wants to pursue how to help themselves or their children.
Hasn't anyone questioned as to WHY the news keeps talking about impending
'smallpox' when the CDC swears it was irraticated by 1977? Has anyone
questioned why they feel the hospitals are doing plague training all of a
sudden?
Please anyone reading this far, if you don't want to beleive, then close
the window and this subject will be closed. I don't wish to debate
something I've seen in action. And I don't have one of the scientists
handy when I sit down to do my email.
regards,
kolleen
Kolleen
>But my understanding of the smallpox scare andYes. Its possible *terrorists* have them, I'm not sure how probable. The
>plague training is that they fear the terrorists have them and will use them.
>Tia
WHO was pretty emphatic about it not existing - and they held that beleif
for years and years.
The smallpox scare was put into action before 9/11 (also the anniversay
of the Balfour treaty for those that want to understand the tragedy
better).
A few WHO ex-researchers were contacted long before and asked if they
were researching specifically Anthrax, Smallpox and any other plagues. A
NYC hospital was trained to watch out for the above (Elmhurt Hospital)
long before that infamous day. Most likely other hospitals in metro areas
were asked to do the same.
I don't like to get into *conspiracys* UGH! what a word.. I don't like to
look deeper into a situation and speculate on what could be just really
bad communication... BUT these darn things keep coming to my face.. and I
keep saying.. why? oh why?
History shows that disease rise and fall in natural progression. Every 90
years or so. Its possible that we're approaching the rise part, before
the fall - and that most vaccinations, most antibiotics and the ilk will
be exposed to be band-aids that Western science has grasped at.
Can it be possible that *bio-terrorism* can be used as an excuse to
cover-up a lot of ills that allopathic medical researchers have been
hiding for years? I hate to think so.
I don't like to beleive that this research is done with malintentions. I
feel the people that come up with these *advances* are truly trying to
help. I see flaws in their testing methodology and their basic principles.
When I had uterine cancer at age 24 and was told I would never had kids..
I was lucky enough to have been introduced to alternate therapys
(Revit-organ, a type of stem cell therapy). If I had chose conventional
methods, I would not have had my son.
Please let me stop here and say that I am just a vessel of trivia, facts
presented, and experience of *quackery* by sheer accident. I have not
done anything so grandiose in my life that warrants me standing on a
soapbox.
Playboy did a great series of articles called 'Medical Genocide' in the
80s. If anyone wants to start somewhere thats a good place. Although a
lot of what was offered as alternate therapy is no longer valid because
of this rise in dangerous viruses.
There was a book called 'Hidden Killers'. It explained it extremely well.
Unfortunately I lent it out and haven't been able to find it since. I
bought it in England and never seen it since (even on the internet).
My only gift is that of being able to talk or write. I can share my
experiences and people can decide for themselves what they choose.
with humble regard,
kolleen
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/18/2001 1:26:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Kolleen@... writes:
sound at all unreasonable to me,
lovemary
I cannot judge my own path and SELF, having the knowledge that I have chosen
to come here to experience these specific issues and grow, learn, and
Remember Who I Am.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Kolleen@... writes:
>I, for one, am interestde in hearing more on this Kolleen. .. it doesnt
> We are currently inundated with low level virus that is triggering more
> and more onset disease and speeding up current disease.
sound at all unreasonable to me,
lovemary
I cannot judge my own path and SELF, having the knowledge that I have chosen
to come here to experience these specific issues and grow, learn, and
Remember Who I Am.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tia Leschke
>I'm inclined to agree with you, Kolleen, about the possibility that a lot
>Hasn't anyone questioned as to WHY the news keeps talking about impending
>'smallpox' when the CDC swears it was irraticated by 1977? Has anyone
>questioned why they feel the hospitals are doing plague training all of a
>sudden?
of our ills are being caused by viruses that the "establishment" is not
recognizing as dangerous. But my understanding of the smallpox scare and
plague training is that they fear the terrorists have them and will use them.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Lynda
That has never made any sense to me, about smallpox. If smallpox has been
erradicated and the only smallpox left in the world is that of vaccination
quality (not the same as what folks get) and those supplies have been
checked and double checked and none are missing, then how could anyone have
the smallpox virus??? I mean, they can't have it both ways. Either they
erradicated the blooming virus or they lied and they didn't erradicate it.
But they don't get to have it both ways!
Lynda
erradicated and the only smallpox left in the world is that of vaccination
quality (not the same as what folks get) and those supplies have been
checked and double checked and none are missing, then how could anyone have
the smallpox virus??? I mean, they can't have it both ways. Either they
erradicated the blooming virus or they lied and they didn't erradicate it.
But they don't get to have it both ways!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Tia Leschke <leschke@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Stem cell research
>
> >
> >Hasn't anyone questioned as to WHY the news keeps talking about impending
> >'smallpox' when the CDC swears it was irraticated by 1977? Has anyone
> >questioned why they feel the hospitals are doing plague training all of a
> >sudden?
>
> I'm inclined to agree with you, Kolleen, about the possibility that a lot
> of our ills are being caused by viruses that the "establishment" is not
> recognizing as dangerous. But my understanding of the smallpox scare and
> plague training is that they fear the terrorists have them and will use
them.
> Tia
>
> No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
> Eleanor Roosevelt
> *********************************************
> Tia Leschke
> leschke@...
> On Vancouver Island
>
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Lynda
The problem with books that "tell it like it is" is that they conveniently
have a way of "disappearing" or being "killed." Another such book that you
can occasionally find on the net is "Diet for a Poisoned Planet."
As to the hospitals, they have been doing triage training and doing mock
disasters, including nuclear war and plague since at least the 70s when I
worked at a hospital in mid-sized town in CA (pop. 90,000). The feds (CDC
and regulatory agencies) even come in and test them on their responses.
As to all the vaccinations that are wandering around. There have been
several outbreaks in vaccinated populations. One of the major ones was here
in CA, specifically in the Bay Area about 2 or 3 years ago of whooping
cough.
IMNSHO <g> I think the current, and as far as that goes most of the "new"
vaccines, push about smallpox (which you are right started before 9/11) is
all about making money for pharmeceutical companies! If they create a panic
and then they say there are limited numbers of the vaccine, they jack the
prices through the roof and no one complains.
Look at the BILLIONS they made on Hep B! I mean, really, even the CDC says
that the target population for the vaccine is IV drug users,
homosexuals/heterosexuals with multiple partners and health care workers.
Precisely how many new born babies fit that criteria? Yet hospitals are
sticking new borns faster than they stick the parents with an outrageous
bill for it!
Lynda
have a way of "disappearing" or being "killed." Another such book that you
can occasionally find on the net is "Diet for a Poisoned Planet."
As to the hospitals, they have been doing triage training and doing mock
disasters, including nuclear war and plague since at least the 70s when I
worked at a hospital in mid-sized town in CA (pop. 90,000). The feds (CDC
and regulatory agencies) even come in and test them on their responses.
As to all the vaccinations that are wandering around. There have been
several outbreaks in vaccinated populations. One of the major ones was here
in CA, specifically in the Bay Area about 2 or 3 years ago of whooping
cough.
IMNSHO <g> I think the current, and as far as that goes most of the "new"
vaccines, push about smallpox (which you are right started before 9/11) is
all about making money for pharmeceutical companies! If they create a panic
and then they say there are limited numbers of the vaccine, they jack the
prices through the roof and no one complains.
Look at the BILLIONS they made on Hep B! I mean, really, even the CDC says
that the target population for the vaccine is IV drug users,
homosexuals/heterosexuals with multiple partners and health care workers.
Precisely how many new born babies fit that criteria? Yet hospitals are
sticking new borns faster than they stick the parents with an outrageous
bill for it!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Kolleen <Kolleen@...>
To: Unschooling.com <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Stem cell research
> >But my understanding of the smallpox scare and
> >plague training is that they fear the terrorists have them and will use
them.
> >Tia
>
>
> Yes. Its possible *terrorists* have them, I'm not sure how probable. The
> WHO was pretty emphatic about it not existing - and they held that beleif
> for years and years.
>
> The smallpox scare was put into action before 9/11 (also the anniversay
> of the Balfour treaty for those that want to understand the tragedy
> better).
>
> A few WHO ex-researchers were contacted long before and asked if they
> were researching specifically Anthrax, Smallpox and any other plagues. A
> NYC hospital was trained to watch out for the above (Elmhurt Hospital)
> long before that infamous day. Most likely other hospitals in metro areas
> were asked to do the same.
>
> I don't like to get into *conspiracys* UGH! what a word.. I don't like to
> look deeper into a situation and speculate on what could be just really
> bad communication... BUT these darn things keep coming to my face.. and I
> keep saying.. why? oh why?
>
> History shows that disease rise and fall in natural progression. Every 90
> years or so. Its possible that we're approaching the rise part, before
> the fall - and that most vaccinations, most antibiotics and the ilk will
> be exposed to be band-aids that Western science has grasped at.
>
> Can it be possible that *bio-terrorism* can be used as an excuse to
> cover-up a lot of ills that allopathic medical researchers have been
> hiding for years? I hate to think so.
>
> I don't like to beleive that this research is done with malintentions. I
> feel the people that come up with these *advances* are truly trying to
> help. I see flaws in their testing methodology and their basic principles.
>
> When I had uterine cancer at age 24 and was told I would never had kids..
> I was lucky enough to have been introduced to alternate therapys
> (Revit-organ, a type of stem cell therapy). If I had chose conventional
> methods, I would not have had my son.
>
> Please let me stop here and say that I am just a vessel of trivia, facts
> presented, and experience of *quackery* by sheer accident. I have not
> done anything so grandiose in my life that warrants me standing on a
> soapbox.
>
> Playboy did a great series of articles called 'Medical Genocide' in the
> 80s. If anyone wants to start somewhere thats a good place. Although a
> lot of what was offered as alternate therapy is no longer valid because
> of this rise in dangerous viruses.
>
> There was a book called 'Hidden Killers'. It explained it extremely well.
> Unfortunately I lent it out and haven't been able to find it since. I
> bought it in England and never seen it since (even on the internet).
>
> My only gift is that of being able to talk or write. I can share my
> experiences and people can decide for themselves what they choose.
>
> with humble regard,
> kolleen
>
>
>
>
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Elsa Haas
The plural of virus is viruses. (You may have been thinking of the plural of
fungus, which can be either funguses or fungi).
Elsa Haas
Kolleen wrote:
<>
Whether these
virus' (or is it virii) are mademade or have developed naturally (the
rise and fall of naturally occuring plagues) is irrevelent.
<>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
fungus, which can be either funguses or fungi).
Elsa Haas
Kolleen wrote:
<>
Whether these
virus' (or is it virii) are mademade or have developed naturally (the
rise and fall of naturally occuring plagues) is irrevelent.
<>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tia Leschke
At 08:13 PM 18/12/2001 -0800, you wrote:
weapons grade plutonium floating around the world where it isn't supposed
to be. Seems pretty likely that there's also smallpox. I don't think
there's only the vaccination stuff. I think they saved some samples of the
real thing.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
>That has never made any sense to me, about smallpox. If smallpox has beenI think the problem is with the check and double check system. There's
>erradicated and the only smallpox left in the world is that of vaccination
>quality (not the same as what folks get) and those supplies have been
>checked and double checked and none are missing, then how could anyone have
>the smallpox virus??? I mean, they can't have it both ways. Either they
>erradicated the blooming virus or they lied and they didn't erradicate it.
>But they don't get to have it both ways!
weapons grade plutonium floating around the world where it isn't supposed
to be. Seems pretty likely that there's also smallpox. I don't think
there's only the vaccination stuff. I think they saved some samples of the
real thing.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Tia Leschke
>Explain please. I've never heard of the Balfour treaty, at least that I
>The smallpox scare was put into action before 9/11 (also the anniversay
>of the Balfour treaty for those that want to understand the tragedy
>better).
remember.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Cindy
Tia Leschke wrote:
WW1 - and it called for the establishment of a Zionist state in Palestine.
At the time the British government needed support from the Zionists and
Balfour was the Foreign Secretary at the time - I believe it was under
Lloyd George as Prime Minister. It set the stage for the League of
Nations mandate which gave control of Palestine to the Brits at the
end of WW1.
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...
>I recall a Balfour Declaration. It was made by Great Britain around
> >
> >The smallpox scare was put into action before 9/11 (also the anniversay
> >of the Balfour treaty for those that want to understand the tragedy
> >better).
>
> Explain please. I've never heard of the Balfour treaty, at least that I
> remember.
> Tia
>
WW1 - and it called for the establishment of a Zionist state in Palestine.
At the time the British government needed support from the Zionists and
Balfour was the Foreign Secretary at the time - I believe it was under
Lloyd George as Prime Minister. It set the stage for the League of
Nations mandate which gave control of Palestine to the Brits at the
end of WW1.
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...