Please Clip Your Posts
Tia Leschke
I've just replied to several posts that went on and on and on and on, and
included every post they were responding to. It seems to take ages to get
the cursor all the way down to the bottom of the post. This is only mildly
annoying to me, as I try to clip off all the excess junk. But I imagine
it's no fun at all for the digest readers.
It isn't hard to clip your posts. In Eudora, I can highlight the part I
want to reply to and then click reply. Only the part I highlighted will
appear. I don't know how to do it in other programs, but it's easy to
simply highlight and delete all the stuff that isn't needed before hitting
send. The digest readers will love you for it.
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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included every post they were responding to. It seems to take ages to get
the cursor all the way down to the bottom of the post. This is only mildly
annoying to me, as I try to clip off all the excess junk. But I imagine
it's no fun at all for the digest readers.
It isn't hard to clip your posts. In Eudora, I can highlight the part I
want to reply to and then click reply. Only the part I highlighted will
appear. I don't know how to do it in other programs, but it's easy to
simply highlight and delete all the stuff that isn't needed before hitting
send. The digest readers will love you for it.
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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It is the answers which separate us, the questions which unite us. - Janice
Levy
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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24/11/01
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Sarah Carothers
Thanks for the reminder, Tia. I forget and do this much too often.
Endora *does* that for you, eh? I might have to re-think the use of Outloook Express!
Sarah
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Endora *does* that for you, eh? I might have to re-think the use of Outloook Express!
Sarah
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Tia Leschke
At 03:39 PM 08/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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>Thanks for the reminder, Tia. I forget and do this much too often.Eudora is less of a target for viruses as well.
>Endora *does* that for you, eh? I might have to re-think the use of
>Outloook Express!
>Sarah
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Cindy
Tia Leschke wrote:
I've been getting "the blue screen of death" using Netscape lately since
I had too many emails in some of my folders - I finally figured that out
after several days of seeing TBSOD. I'm ready to change. I don't want
to move to Outlook since a) I prefer not using a Microsoft product if
I can avoid it and b) it has so many virus attacks on it.
I will be running a Windows system (I'm getting myself a new computer soon;
this one is 4 years old and then I won't have to share as much with my
kids!)
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...
>What mailers do people like?
> At 03:39 PM 08/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the reminder, Tia. I forget and do this much too often.
> >Endora *does* that for you, eh? I might have to re-think the use of
> >Outloook Express!
> >Sarah
>
> Eudora is less of a target for viruses as well.
> Tia
>
I've been getting "the blue screen of death" using Netscape lately since
I had too many emails in some of my folders - I finally figured that out
after several days of seeing TBSOD. I'm ready to change. I don't want
to move to Outlook since a) I prefer not using a Microsoft product if
I can avoid it and b) it has so many virus attacks on it.
I will be running a Windows system (I'm getting myself a new computer soon;
this one is 4 years old and then I won't have to share as much with my
kids!)
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...
Tia Leschke
>I've been using Eudora for years and like it. The only thing it doesn't do
>What mailers do people like?
>
>I've been getting "the blue screen of death" using Netscape lately since
>I had too many emails in some of my folders - I finally figured that out
>after several days of seeing TBSOD. I'm ready to change. I don't want
>to move to Outlook since a) I prefer not using a Microsoft product if
>I can avoid it and b) it has so many virus attacks on it.
that I wish it did is allow me to change the subject lines before
saving. I've started getting around that by forwarding the message to
myself with a new subject line that clearly shows what's inside. That's a
bit of a hassle, but I can live with it. It doesn't seem to have a problem
with huge numbers of saved emails. I don't have many on this machine,
because I'm about to switch back to the other one, which has probably
thousands.
The other program that I've heard people say they like is Pegasus, but I've
never tried it.
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Sarah Carothers
Cindy,
I tried one called PocoMail that I found at Tucows not too long ago and it was good imo. I'm no expert in this area, though, so you might discover something about it that went right over my head.
Sarah
What mailers do people like?
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I tried one called PocoMail that I found at Tucows not too long ago and it was good imo. I'm no expert in this area, though, so you might discover something about it that went right over my head.
Sarah
What mailers do people like?
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Lynda
If you do the following setting for Outlook, it is as safer or safer than
most programs and even safer if you have a good firewall.
Lynda
==========
First thing to do is get rid of the Windows Scripting Host, this applies
to everyone using Windows no matter what email program. The Scripting
Host isn't used or needed by 99.9% of users and essentially is used like
the old DOS batch files but on steroids .. if you don't know what it
does or have never used it then you don't need it and won't miss it....
to remove:
Go to Start Button -->Settings -->Control Panel -->Add/Remove
Programs --> select Windows Setup tab -->highlight Accessories --> click
on Details button --> look for the entry towards the bottom of the list
that says Windows Scripting Host and remove the check next to it --> hit
the OK buttons until you are out of the Control Panel.
To secure Outlook Express:
Start up Outlook Express and Internet Explorer, 1st go to Internet
Explorer to set up the Secure Zones:
Select Tools from the top menu bar --> Options --> Security tab -->
highlight Restricted Zones --> click Custom Level button
You'll see a window with several sections with options in each section,
ActiveX Controls and Plugins - disable everything
Cookies - disable everything
Downloads - disable everything
Microsoft VM - Disable or High Safety
Miscellaneous - Disable everything but
Drag and Drop or Copy and Paste - set to Prompt
Software Channel Permissions - High safety
Scripting - Disable everything
Hit OK buttons until out
Go to Outlook Express:
Choose Tools from the upper menu bar --> Options --> Security tab -->in
the Security Zones section check the box next to Restricted Zones -->
hit OK buttons until out
And that's it, this will keep scripts, ActiveX control and Java from
executing on there own, and you will be as secure or more secure than
with any other email program. Remember though you still have to watch
out to not execute virus/worms that are sent as attachments(although
these security settings will stop several scripted virus/worms if
clicked on) but a good virus scanner *should* pick them up as long as
you keep the virus definitions updated (I do mine once a week or when a
virus alert goes out) You can download a couple of really good
completely FREE ones here:
http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.cfm AVG Antivirus Personal Edition
(What I'm using)
http://www.free-av.com/eula.htm AntiVir/9x Personal Edition
most programs and even safer if you have a good firewall.
Lynda
==========
First thing to do is get rid of the Windows Scripting Host, this applies
to everyone using Windows no matter what email program. The Scripting
Host isn't used or needed by 99.9% of users and essentially is used like
the old DOS batch files but on steroids .. if you don't know what it
does or have never used it then you don't need it and won't miss it....
to remove:
Go to Start Button -->Settings -->Control Panel -->Add/Remove
Programs --> select Windows Setup tab -->highlight Accessories --> click
on Details button --> look for the entry towards the bottom of the list
that says Windows Scripting Host and remove the check next to it --> hit
the OK buttons until you are out of the Control Panel.
To secure Outlook Express:
Start up Outlook Express and Internet Explorer, 1st go to Internet
Explorer to set up the Secure Zones:
Select Tools from the top menu bar --> Options --> Security tab -->
highlight Restricted Zones --> click Custom Level button
You'll see a window with several sections with options in each section,
ActiveX Controls and Plugins - disable everything
Cookies - disable everything
Downloads - disable everything
Microsoft VM - Disable or High Safety
Miscellaneous - Disable everything but
Drag and Drop or Copy and Paste - set to Prompt
Software Channel Permissions - High safety
Scripting - Disable everything
Hit OK buttons until out
Go to Outlook Express:
Choose Tools from the upper menu bar --> Options --> Security tab -->in
the Security Zones section check the box next to Restricted Zones -->
hit OK buttons until out
And that's it, this will keep scripts, ActiveX control and Java from
executing on there own, and you will be as secure or more secure than
with any other email program. Remember though you still have to watch
out to not execute virus/worms that are sent as attachments(although
these security settings will stop several scripted virus/worms if
clicked on) but a good virus scanner *should* pick them up as long as
you keep the virus definitions updated (I do mine once a week or when a
virus alert goes out) You can download a couple of really good
completely FREE ones here:
http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.cfm AVG Antivirus Personal Edition
(What I'm using)
http://www.free-av.com/eula.htm AntiVir/9x Personal Edition
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy <crma@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Please Clip Your Posts
>
>
> Tia Leschke wrote:
> >
> > At 03:39 PM 08/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reminder, Tia. I forget and do this much too often.
> > >Endora *does* that for you, eh? I might have to re-think the use of
> > >Outloook Express!
> > >Sarah
> >
> > Eudora is less of a target for viruses as well.
> > Tia
> >
>
> What mailers do people like?
>
> I've been getting "the blue screen of death" using Netscape lately since
> I had too many emails in some of my folders - I finally figured that out
> after several days of seeing TBSOD. I'm ready to change. I don't want
> to move to Outlook since a) I prefer not using a Microsoft product if
> I can avoid it and b) it has so many virus attacks on it.
>
> I will be running a Windows system (I'm getting myself a new computer
soon;
> this one is 4 years old and then I won't have to share as much with my
> kids!)
>
> --
>
> Cindy Ferguson
> crma@...
>
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kaydeecross
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Cindy <crma@i...> wrote:
break into, too easy to make worms and virus for and way too easy to
back door into someone's computer.
If MS has spent more of their resources on writing good code instead
of their awesome marketing strategies in the past 15 years, they'd
have a good product.
Besides all that personal info that MS sends back under the guise
of 'piracy prevention'.
But as life has it, its not always the better product that ends up in
mainstream usage (or the schooling!!).
I use a Macintosh (Linux and Unix on occasion) and am still using
Claris Emailer from ancient times. It works damn good and I don't
worry about all those nasty virus and worms that everyone sends
around.
Eudora would be my second choice.
Outlook has upgraded their so easily hackable code, but its still
inferior and open for attacks.
Kolleen
"From Disco Queen to Geekdom!"
> > Eudora is less of a target for viruses as well.I stay away from everything Micro$oft. Their code is too easy to
> > Tia
>
> What mailers do people like?
> Cindy Ferguson
break into, too easy to make worms and virus for and way too easy to
back door into someone's computer.
If MS has spent more of their resources on writing good code instead
of their awesome marketing strategies in the past 15 years, they'd
have a good product.
Besides all that personal info that MS sends back under the guise
of 'piracy prevention'.
But as life has it, its not always the better product that ends up in
mainstream usage (or the schooling!!).
I use a Macintosh (Linux and Unix on occasion) and am still using
Claris Emailer from ancient times. It works damn good and I don't
worry about all those nasty virus and worms that everyone sends
around.
Eudora would be my second choice.
Outlook has upgraded their so easily hackable code, but its still
inferior and open for attacks.
Kolleen
"From Disco Queen to Geekdom!"
Helen Hegener
At 7:47 PM +0000 12/9/01, kaydeecross wrote:
PowerBook G3 (Macs forever!), and I'm happy with it, but as I handle
several hundred email messages a week I'd love to hear if there's
something even better out there.
Helen
>I use a Macintosh (Linux and Unix on occasion) and am still usingDelurking. Curiousity got the best of me. I'm using Eudora on a Mac
>Claris Emailer from ancient times. It works damn good and I don't
>worry about all those nasty virus and worms that everyone sends
>around.
>
>Eudora would be my second choice.
PowerBook G3 (Macs forever!), and I'm happy with it, but as I handle
several hundred email messages a week I'd love to hear if there's
something even better out there.
>KolleenSounds like a *story* in that there sigline.... <g>
>"From Disco Queen to Geekdom!"
Helen
kaydeecross
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Helen Hegener <HEM-Editor@h...> wrote:
its OLD... but its scriptable and it the only one I know that supports
AOL email. I think the last update was in 1997... We can take this off
listserv if you want to know more or try a demo, I don't want bore
anyone with software discussion *grin*
turn into an 80s+ computer geek! Too bad I didn't use it to my
financial advantage *sigh*
Regards,
Kolleen
> Delurking. Curiousity got the best of me. I'm using Eudora on a MacI'm on a PB G3 also. I've been using Claris Emailer since 1995 *cough*,
> PowerBook G3 (Macs forever!), and I'm happy with it, but as I handle
> several hundred email messages a week I'd love to hear if there's
> something even better out there.
its OLD... but its scriptable and it the only one I know that supports
AOL email. I think the last update was in 1997... We can take this off
listserv if you want to know more or try a demo, I don't want bore
anyone with software discussion *grin*
> >Kolleen*smile* Yeah, my friends from the 70s thought I'd be the last person to
> >"From Disco Queen to Geekdom!"
>
> Sounds like a *story* in that there sigline.... <g>
> Helen
turn into an 80s+ computer geek! Too bad I didn't use it to my
financial advantage *sigh*
Regards,
Kolleen
kaydeecross
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Helen Hegener <HEM-Editor@h...> wrote:
> At 7:47 PM +0000 12/9/01, kaydeecross wrote:
> >I use a Macintosh (Linux and Unix on occasion) and am still using
> >Claris Emailer from ancient times. It works damn good and I don't
> >worry about all those nasty virus and worms that everyone sends
> >around.
> >
> >Eudora would be my second choice.
>
> Delurking. Curiousity got the best of me. I'm using Eudora on a Mac
> PowerBook G3 (Macs forever!), and I'm happy with it, but as I handle
> several hundred email messages a week I'd love to hear if there's
> something even better out there.
>
> >Kolleen
> >"From Disco Queen to Geekdom!"
>
> Sounds like a *story* in that there sigline.... <g>
>
> Helen