Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1622
Julie Stauffer
<<Why do kids act this way?>>
Many different answers for many different kids. Some is just temperament.
My 2 boys are very high spirited and impulsive. They are either joyous or
in a snit. Some kids are easily over-stimulated.
Some kids are never talked to and have little understanding of how to get
their needs met except by having a fit, hitting, whining, etc..
Julie
Many different answers for many different kids. Some is just temperament.
My 2 boys are very high spirited and impulsive. They are either joyous or
in a snit. Some kids are easily over-stimulated.
Some kids are never talked to and have little understanding of how to get
their needs met except by having a fit, hitting, whining, etc..
Julie
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/26/01 4:08:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
mean it. "Mommy, I want a candy bar!" "Not this time Timmy." child escalates
it mom still says no,child escalates, mom is getting that peer pressure
feeling and finally to get Timmy to shut up she buys him the candy bar. If
there were none of this back and forth then it wouldn't be a whine fest.
Either the parent never sets a limit and the kid gets the candy bar upon
request or the kid knows mom means no when she says it and doesn't escalate
the scene.
NICKI~
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[email protected] writes:
> Ok, so I've been reading all the posts about not punishing/settingI believe it is b/c when the parent says no the kid knows she/he doesn't
> limits, etc. Everyone knows kids that no one likes to be around.
> They throw a tantrum whenever they can't have their own way, their
> parents can't stand to take them to the store with them because they
> always whine that they want everything and misbehave in the store,
> other parents don't want their kids to play with them because of
> their behavior, etc.
>
> So the question I'll throw out is--Why do some kids act this way?
> Sheila
>
>
>
>
mean it. "Mommy, I want a candy bar!" "Not this time Timmy." child escalates
it mom still says no,child escalates, mom is getting that peer pressure
feeling and finally to get Timmy to shut up she buys him the candy bar. If
there were none of this back and forth then it wouldn't be a whine fest.
Either the parent never sets a limit and the kid gets the candy bar upon
request or the kid knows mom means no when she says it and doesn't escalate
the scene.
NICKI~
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
>> So the question I'll throw out is--Why do some kids act this way?doesn't
>> Sheila
>> I believe it is b/c when the parent says no the kid knows she/he
>mean it. "Mommy, I want a candy bar!" "Not this time Timmy." childescalates
>it mom still says no,child escalates, mom is getting that peer pressureOK, Here is my question (Please be gentle with your answers! LOL)
>feeling and finally to get Timmy to shut up she buys him the candy bar. If
>there were none of this back and forth then it wouldn't be a whine fest.
>Either the parent never sets a limit and the kid gets the candy bar upon
>request or the kid knows mom means no when she says it and doesn't escalate
>the scene.
>
Once the above has become a pattern - how does one change it? How does one
set the limit yet still maintain respect and teh child autonomy? I tend to
have good days (respecting their wishes, everyone cooperating, watching the
hunger/anger/lonely/tired thing, modeling behavior and then all of a sudden
I realize that there has been some yelling, disrespect etc and I'm not sure
what got us there.
Also, the eating issue (I really wish S was here to answer this one) My two
year old is down to eating nothing until he gets junk. Would removing it
from the house for a period of time help? Might it give him the space to try
other healthier foods and realize he likes them? I don't want to be a food
controller yet I am starting to become concerned over his eating habits.
Yesterday he ate a bowl of rice crispies with milk and then nothing else! He
is still nursing so that eases my fear somewhat. I have also thought about
not arguing and letting him nurse as much as desired but I am at that
nursing stage where it is starting to get a little irritating physically as
my cycle ebbs and flows (pun intended LOL)
Elissa
Kolleen
>Elissa writes:If you keep good organic foods in the house, no white sugar or high
>My two
>year old is down to eating nothing until he gets junk. Would removing it
>from the house for a period of time help? Might it give him the space to try
>other healthier foods and realize he likes them? I don't want to be a food
>controller yet I am starting to become concerned over his eating habits.
fructose corn syrup. Just let your kid eat what he feels his body needs.
Organic, pesticide free foods is best for small bodies and you can get
just about anything these days for kids that the 'regular' stores have.
(gone are the beansprout only days of health food stores like the 60s)
Organic meat is difficult to find, but definately worth the work to track
it down. Otherwise your pumping your kid full of female hormones,
pesticides and antibiotics. At that point, Rice Crispys is definately
better!
Be sure to have plenty of variety around to offer, leave out or keep
within reach.
Popcorn and jelly beans for breakfast is great! So is pancakes for dinner.
Whey protein shakes are delicious and great on those 'busy' days. They
also make great activities when you buy the vanilla or plain and put
stuff in and shake it up!
Green Kamut mixed with orange juice is a great green drink and no need to
chase them around to eat their veggies.
As long as you're not offering broccoli vs. white sugar addictive foods,
let your kid decide.
k
[email protected]
>This is what I keep in the house. I am a member of an organic CSA (community
>Organic, pesticide free foods is best for small bodies and you can get
>just about anything these days for kids that the 'regular' stores have.
>(gone are the beansprout only days of health food stores like the 60s)
supported agriculture - www.houseinthewoods.com) I use lots of grains,
veggies etc. I have not just one but THREE whole foods markets, one medium
size "My Organic Market" and two Trader Joe's . I thought the Rice Crispies
and Milk was wonderful.
>I am not just doing that.
>As long as you're not offering broccoli vs. white sugar addictive foods,
>let your kid decide.
>
I want to thank everyone for the fantastic answers to my post. I am feeling
so much better having just gotten my fears off my chest. Max will be fine.
Thanks!
Elissa
Lynda
There are also lots of super naturally sweet organic products that might
appeal until he gets past the refined white sugar withdrawal such as
dehydrated pears, raisins, fruit leather (recipe follows as I think I
promised it to someone before my computer crashed).
Gingerbread waffles with honey cider sauce is a really good one for kidlets
that have a sweet tooth.
We keep "ready to munch" bowls in the fridge-- one with veggies (baby
carrots, celery sticks, broccoli flowerettes, bell pepper slices, mushrooms,
etc.) and one with fruit (apple slices, orange slices, kiwi quarters, etc.).
In a bag we have string cheese and slices of cheese (organic, of course
<g>). And then I make up a bunch of these little tiny glass bowls with
homemade dill dip, ranch dressing, peanut butter and peanut butter and honey
in them.
Also, I've found that when they have helped fix do the shopping and then
helped fix them they are more inclined to eat them. We make homemade
granola and healthy muffins and stuf and they devore them because, in part,
they are part of the process. They've been either sitting on the counter or
standing on stools to help since they were old enough to sit unaided. So,
they "own" the foods and thus eat things other kids might not.
Lynda, another organic food nut
Fruit leather recipes:
Pureed fruit can be dried on special, heavy plastic sheets in a dehydrator
or in your oven. To prepare apples or pears for leather making, wash fruit
thoroughly, peel and core removing all seeds, puree in a blender or food
processor until smooth. Mixture should be of pouring consistency. It is
important to add honey to help keep the leather pliable when dried. If the
puree is too thick, add liquid to thin. If too tart, add more honey or sugar
(stevia works, also). Heat apple or pear mixture to 190° F to prevent
oxidization, cool before pouring onto dehydrator trays. Coat trays with a
layer of fruit puree about 1/8 inch thick. Dry at 135° F until leathery (use
lowest oven setting and leave door propped open). Be careful there are no
moisture pockets. Roll up fruit leather while warm, wrap in plastic and
store.
I've also made strawberry, watermelon, peach, plum, fig and date fruit
leather.
appeal until he gets past the refined white sugar withdrawal such as
dehydrated pears, raisins, fruit leather (recipe follows as I think I
promised it to someone before my computer crashed).
Gingerbread waffles with honey cider sauce is a really good one for kidlets
that have a sweet tooth.
We keep "ready to munch" bowls in the fridge-- one with veggies (baby
carrots, celery sticks, broccoli flowerettes, bell pepper slices, mushrooms,
etc.) and one with fruit (apple slices, orange slices, kiwi quarters, etc.).
In a bag we have string cheese and slices of cheese (organic, of course
<g>). And then I make up a bunch of these little tiny glass bowls with
homemade dill dip, ranch dressing, peanut butter and peanut butter and honey
in them.
Also, I've found that when they have helped fix do the shopping and then
helped fix them they are more inclined to eat them. We make homemade
granola and healthy muffins and stuf and they devore them because, in part,
they are part of the process. They've been either sitting on the counter or
standing on stools to help since they were old enough to sit unaided. So,
they "own" the foods and thus eat things other kids might not.
Lynda, another organic food nut
Fruit leather recipes:
Pureed fruit can be dried on special, heavy plastic sheets in a dehydrator
or in your oven. To prepare apples or pears for leather making, wash fruit
thoroughly, peel and core removing all seeds, puree in a blender or food
processor until smooth. Mixture should be of pouring consistency. It is
important to add honey to help keep the leather pliable when dried. If the
puree is too thick, add liquid to thin. If too tart, add more honey or sugar
(stevia works, also). Heat apple or pear mixture to 190° F to prevent
oxidization, cool before pouring onto dehydrator trays. Coat trays with a
layer of fruit puree about 1/8 inch thick. Dry at 135° F until leathery (use
lowest oven setting and leave door propped open). Be careful there are no
moisture pockets. Roll up fruit leather while warm, wrap in plastic and
store.
I've also made strawberry, watermelon, peach, plum, fig and date fruit
leather.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kolleen <Kolleen@...>
To: Unschooling.com <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1622
> >Elissa writes:
> >My two
> >year old is down to eating nothing until he gets junk. Would removing it
> >from the house for a period of time help? Might it give him the space to
try
> >other healthier foods and realize he likes them? I don't want to be a
food
> >controller yet I am starting to become concerned over his eating habits.
>
>
> If you keep good organic foods in the house, no white sugar or high
> fructose corn syrup. Just let your kid eat what he feels his body needs.
>
> Organic, pesticide free foods is best for small bodies and you can get
> just about anything these days for kids that the 'regular' stores have.
> (gone are the beansprout only days of health food stores like the 60s)
>
> Organic meat is difficult to find, but definately worth the work to track
> it down. Otherwise your pumping your kid full of female hormones,
> pesticides and antibiotics. At that point, Rice Crispys is definately
> better!
>
> Be sure to have plenty of variety around to offer, leave out or keep
> within reach.
>
> Popcorn and jelly beans for breakfast is great! So is pancakes for dinner.
>
> Whey protein shakes are delicious and great on those 'busy' days. They
> also make great activities when you buy the vanilla or plain and put
> stuff in and shake it up!
>
> Green Kamut mixed with orange juice is a great green drink and no need to
> chase them around to eat their veggies.
>
> As long as you're not offering broccoli vs. white sugar addictive foods,
> let your kid decide.
>
> k
>
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