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<< Of course for the topic of pizza, I have heard so much about authentic New
York pizza, that it would the pizza chains around here to shame. It must be
good. >>

There are a lot of New Yorkers. They move away in droves, but they worship
the food they grew up with. So bagels are everywhere now, for their
convenience (and New Yorkers complain here that bakers put green chile in
some, and blueberries in some, saying that's not right). We got a Krispy
Creme donut shop in New Mexico now, and you'd think the Pope had moved the
Vatican in. And White Castle hamburgers are nothing special, but before you
could buy them frozen, New Yorkers used to buy them out of the back of a
panel truck, four days old, rather than eat the really good burgers at
Blake's or Mac's, our local chains.

They move to New Mexico because they love the culture and they love the
openness and they love the people, and then they complain that these Mexicans
don't know how to run a school district, these Mexicans don't know how to
pick up the garbage, the food here is crummy, why aren't there more clubs,
and so around 1981 I lost my sympathy for New Yorkers not getting the food
they want. I know where there's a BUNCH of it--in NYC. But they don't want
to go back there. They want to change the rest of the country to be more
like the place they love to hate and hate to leave (in retrospect, I guess).


Sandra

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Lynda

Not just New Yorkers. We have a great influx of Texans and Los Angelites up
here. ALWAYS complaining about what they don't have, the weather, blah,
blah, blah, etc., etc., etc.

I finally got fed up with one woman whose conversations from start to finish
were all about "well in Texas," so I said, "Ya know, we live here because we
like 'here,' and if this is such a crummy place, well, the buses run in both
directions!"

And the LaLa Land folks are by far the worst! "We moved here because we
thought this would be such a nice place to live and to get our son/daughter
away from [fill in the blank with gangs, drugs, crime, whatever]." The
implication being that it isn't such a nice place and that we also have
gangs, drugs, crime, etc. The problem being that the vast majority of the
kids getting into trouble or bringing in the drugs are these same kids whose
parents moved to get them away from the problems. Hello people, if you kids
was in trouble with drugs/alcohol/gangs/crime before you moved and they are
still involved after you move, let's figure out the common denominator!

We just had a major problem and a kid ended up getting killed. He moved
from Louisiana to LA and then here. Home invasions, armed robberies and
drug dealings. He and his twin brother even poured gas on a guy in a
wheelchair and threatened to set him on fire if he didn't tell where he kept
his medical marijuana. Two weekends in a row he crashed parties carrying a
gun and beat up a teenage girl. The weekend before he assaulted a police
officer. This time when he came back to the house where he beat up the
girl, one of the residents shot him. Now his mother is crying about the
horrible people up here. I'm sorry her son is dead but sooner or later it
was going to happen and it had nothing to do with being in town full of
"stupid Indians and white trash."

Which is a long winded way to getting to being sick and tired of folks
moving somewhere and then complaining about who lived there first and making
derogatory and frequently racist remarks about the "locals." If everything
was sooooo special where you came from, go back!

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
>
> There are a lot of New Yorkers. They move away in droves, but they
worship
> the food they grew up with. So bagels are everywhere now, for their
> convenience (and New Yorkers complain here that bakers put green chile in
> some, and blueberries in some, saying that's not right). We got a Krispy
> Creme donut shop in New Mexico now, and you'd think the Pope had moved the
> Vatican in. And White Castle hamburgers are nothing special, but before
you
> could buy them frozen, New Yorkers used to buy them out of the back of a
> panel truck, four days old, rather than eat the really good burgers at
> Blake's or Mac's, our local chains.
>
> They move to New Mexico because they love the culture and they love the
> openness and they love the people, and then they complain that these
Mexicans
> don't know how to run a school district, these Mexicans don't know how to
> pick up the garbage, the food here is crummy, why aren't there more clubs,
> and so around 1981 I lost my sympathy for New Yorkers not getting the food
> they want. I know where there's a BUNCH of it--in NYC. But they don't
want
> to go back there. They want to change the rest of the country to be more
> like the place they love to hate and hate to leave (in retrospect, I
guess).
>
> Sandra

mary krzyzanowski

When you are refering to people from New York City, please include the word
City. There is a lot more to NY state than the city!!
As for "back there" being better than where they are living now, I think
they are viewing the past through rose-colored memories.
Mary-NY (right now in the Finger Lakes)(my favorite local foods: white hots,
Concord grapes; sort of local: Buffalo wings, beef on wick(dry))

>From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] New York food
>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:20:03 -0800
>
>Not just New Yorkers. We have a great influx of Texans and Los Angelites
>up
>here. ALWAYS complaining about what they don't have, the weather, blah,
>blah, blah, etc., etc., etc.
>
>I finally got fed up with one woman whose conversations from start to
>finish
>were all about "well in Texas," so I said, "Ya know, we live here because
>we
>like 'here,' and if this is such a crummy place, well, the buses run in
>both
>directions!"
>
>And the LaLa Land folks are by far the worst! "We moved here because we
>thought this would be such a nice place to live and to get our son/daughter
>away from [fill in the blank with gangs, drugs, crime, whatever]." The
>implication being that it isn't such a nice place and that we also have
>gangs, drugs, crime, etc. The problem being that the vast majority of the
>kids getting into trouble or bringing in the drugs are these same kids
>whose
>parents moved to get them away from the problems. Hello people, if you
>kids
>was in trouble with drugs/alcohol/gangs/crime before you moved and they are
>still involved after you move, let's figure out the common denominator!
>
>We just had a major problem and a kid ended up getting killed. He moved
>from Louisiana to LA and then here. Home invasions, armed robberies and
>drug dealings. He and his twin brother even poured gas on a guy in a
>wheelchair and threatened to set him on fire if he didn't tell where he
>kept
>his medical marijuana. Two weekends in a row he crashed parties carrying a
>gun and beat up a teenage girl. The weekend before he assaulted a police
>officer. This time when he came back to the house where he beat up the
>girl, one of the residents shot him. Now his mother is crying about the
>horrible people up here. I'm sorry her son is dead but sooner or later it
>was going to happen and it had nothing to do with being in town full of
>"stupid Indians and white trash."
>
>Which is a long winded way to getting to being sick and tired of folks
>moving somewhere and then complaining about who lived there first and
>making
>derogatory and frequently racist remarks about the "locals." If everything
>was sooooo special where you came from, go back!
>
>Lynda
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <SandraDodd@...>
> >
> > There are a lot of New Yorkers. They move away in droves, but they
>worship
> > the food they grew up with. So bagels are everywhere now, for their
> > convenience (and New Yorkers complain here that bakers put green chile
>in
> > some, and blueberries in some, saying that's not right). We got a
>Krispy
> > Creme donut shop in New Mexico now, and you'd think the Pope had moved
>the
> > Vatican in. And White Castle hamburgers are nothing special, but before
>you
> > could buy them frozen, New Yorkers used to buy them out of the back of a
> > panel truck, four days old, rather than eat the really good burgers at
> > Blake's or Mac's, our local chains.
> >
> > They move to New Mexico because they love the culture and they love the
> > openness and they love the people, and then they complain that these
>Mexicans
> > don't know how to run a school district, these Mexicans don't know how
>to
> > pick up the garbage, the food here is crummy, why aren't there more
>clubs,
> > and so around 1981 I lost my sympathy for New Yorkers not getting the
>food
> > they want. I know where there's a BUNCH of it--in NYC. But they don't
>want
> > to go back there. They want to change the rest of the country to be
>more
> > like the place they love to hate and hate to leave (in retrospect, I
>guess).
> >
> > Sandra
>


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Actually, Krispy Kreme originates from down heah, and I have to agree
with an ahhticle in th'NY Times that said "Hot Krispy Kremes are to
regular doughnuts what angels are to regular people" or sumthin' lak
tha-yut. Yum, yum!

Caren
in Charlotte


>----- Original Message -----
> >From: <SandraDodd@a...>
> > >
We got a
> >Krispy
> > > Creme donut shop in New Mexico now, and you'd think the Pope
had moved
> >the
> > > Vatican in.

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In a message dated 11/15/01 10:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
carenkh@... writes:

<<
Actually, Krispy Kreme originates from down heah, and I have to agree
with an ahhticle in th'NY Times that said "Hot Krispy Kremes are to
regular doughnuts what angels are to regular people" or sumthin' lak
tha-yut. Yum, yum!
>>
Yep, we had Krispy Kremes in Charleston and after I moved to Ohio, they
followed me up here!!
Amy

Amy Kagey in NW Ohio
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