?pencil holding?
Debra Bures
My almost 10 yo dd just got glasses which she wears when she needs them mostly for reading and computer work. The optometrist had her sit and copy a few sentences. He commented on her posture--(cheek resting fist, not sitting centered on paper,) and on the way she holds her pencil (not using the "ok" hold). He is a developmental optometrist and uses exercises to work eye muscles. There was a lot I liked about him, but the pencil holding thing was irritating. Does anyone know if there truly is a correlation between pencil holding, posture, and vision?
Thanks
Debra
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Thanks
Debra
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Hi, I am no expert but my oldest (17) holds her pencil in the "incorrect" way
and as for posture we never worried about it, however she sat (or lay). No
vision problems here.
Just our experience
Candace
and as for posture we never worried about it, however she sat (or lay). No
vision problems here.
Just our experience
Candace
Pat Spelling
I think Dorothy and Raymond Moore's homeschool books dealt with this issue
years ago in one of their books. I don't think there is much correlation,
though if you hold the pencil wrong you might get tired faster, thus have a
hard time writing. Laying you head on your cheek would mean you were
looking at the page wrong but I think you brain makes adjustments for that.
But this is just opinion. I think the Optometrist may be well meaning but
uninformed.
Pat
At 08:54 AM 10/28/2001, you wrote:
years ago in one of their books. I don't think there is much correlation,
though if you hold the pencil wrong you might get tired faster, thus have a
hard time writing. Laying you head on your cheek would mean you were
looking at the page wrong but I think you brain makes adjustments for that.
But this is just opinion. I think the Optometrist may be well meaning but
uninformed.
Pat
At 08:54 AM 10/28/2001, you wrote:
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>mostly for reading and computer work. The optometrist had her sit and copy
>a few sentences. He commented on her posture--(cheek resting fist, not
>sitting centered on paper,) and on the way she holds her pencil (not using
>the "ok" hold). He is a developmental optometrist and uses exercises to
>work eye muscles. There was a lot I liked about him, but the pencil
>holding thing was irritating. Does anyone know if there truly is a
>correlation between pencil holding, posture, and vision?
>Thanks
>Debra
>
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Leslie
According to my Father I still hold my pencil wrong and I enjoyed perfect vision until I hit 43. I now use reading glasses which I'm told make me look wise!
Leslie
Leslie
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Hi, I am no expert but my oldest (17) holds her pencil in the "incorrect" way
and as for posture we never worried about it, however she sat (or lay). No
vision problems here.
Just our experience
Candace
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jbpan
My 6yo daughter also is holding her pencil "wrong" and when she writes the
letter O, she writes the letter "incorrectly", not starting at the proper
place. This bothered me, for a bit, thinking that if she held her pencil
wrong she would have problems later, then if she wrote her O incorrectly she
would have problems with writing further down the road. Then I thought about
the poor writing of so many doctors, lawyers, etc. and also the way my
mother holds her pencil which is COMPLETELY bizarre, and she gets
COMPLIMENTS constantly on her writing which is very different and beautiful.
I don't worry about it anymore and I know that with anything they possibly
can, my children take the most comfortable route so I'm sure that what my
daughter is doing must be comfortable to her.
Brynn
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letter O, she writes the letter "incorrectly", not starting at the proper
place. This bothered me, for a bit, thinking that if she held her pencil
wrong she would have problems later, then if she wrote her O incorrectly she
would have problems with writing further down the road. Then I thought about
the poor writing of so many doctors, lawyers, etc. and also the way my
mother holds her pencil which is COMPLETELY bizarre, and she gets
COMPLIMENTS constantly on her writing which is very different and beautiful.
I don't worry about it anymore and I know that with anything they possibly
can, my children take the most comfortable route so I'm sure that what my
daughter is doing must be comfortable to her.
Brynn
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Lynda
When I worked in rehab they used lots of "correct" methods for different
stuff because it works with training brain patterns. As to posture, it
effects breathing which effects how much oxygen gets to the brain and muscle
tissue, etc.
So, to make it short and sweet, yes, posture can effect many things.
Lynda
stuff because it works with training brain patterns. As to posture, it
effects breathing which effects how much oxygen gets to the brain and muscle
tissue, etc.
So, to make it short and sweet, yes, posture can effect many things.
Lynda
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From: Debra Bures <buresfam@...>
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 6:54 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] ?pencil holding?
> My almost 10 yo dd just got glasses which she wears when she needs them
mostly for reading and computer work. The optometrist had her sit and copy a
few sentences. He commented on her posture--(cheek resting fist, not sitting
centered on paper,) and on the way she holds her pencil (not using the "ok"
hold). He is a developmental optometrist and uses exercises to work eye
muscles. There was a lot I liked about him, but the pencil holding thing was
irritating. Does anyone know if there truly is a correlation between pencil
holding, posture, and vision?
> Thanks
> Debra
>
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mary krzyzanowski
I don't know of any correlations between pencil holding, posture and vision.
I do know I hold a pencil wrong, sat up straight at reading the word
posture and wear glasses for very weak vision (past 3" and things start
blurring. I also hold scissors wrong. i once asked my son's occupational
therapist if these were problems. she said if people can read my writing
and i can cut there are no problems. my dh writes from the bottom up and is
ambidexterous, he is good at math and lousy at spelling (i doubt there is a
correlation).
Mary-NY
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I do know I hold a pencil wrong, sat up straight at reading the word
posture and wear glasses for very weak vision (past 3" and things start
blurring. I also hold scissors wrong. i once asked my son's occupational
therapist if these were problems. she said if people can read my writing
and i can cut there are no problems. my dh writes from the bottom up and is
ambidexterous, he is good at math and lousy at spelling (i doubt there is a
correlation).
Mary-NY
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>Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:54:13 -0500
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>My almost 10 yo dd just got glasses which she wears when she needs them
>mostly for reading and computer work. The optometrist had her sit and copy
>a few sentences. He commented on her posture--(cheek resting fist, not
>sitting centered on paper,) and on the way she holds her pencil (not using
>the "ok" hold). He is a developmental optometrist and uses exercises to
>work eye muscles. There was a lot I liked about him, but the pencil holding
>thing was irritating. Does anyone know if there truly is a correlation
>between pencil holding, posture, and vision?
> Thanks
> Debra
>
>
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Elizabeth Hill
> I don't know of any correlations between pencil holding, posture and vision.Well, nearsighted kids who need glasses may stoop over to get their eyes closer
to the paper so that they can see it better.
Betsy