Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1547
Julie Stauffer
HELP!!!
10yo dd came in today and asked for math and spelling curriculum. YIKES!
She doesn't set the world on fire in either of these areas admittedly, but
turns out she was subjected to a "pop quiz" by some of the kids in her
gymnastics class and "failed" miserably. Adriane was mortified. She
doesn't handle herself well in these situations and tends to just stand
there and be embarrassed.
We talked about how different kids learn different things even in the same
school system.....how the kids were just spouting off stuff they memorized
and were not smarter than her....different ways that situation could be
handled in the future....things that she knows, like animal husbandry, that
those kids probably don't know....she didn't really buy it.
I pointed out some available resources to learn what she was asking for,
told her I would help her, but that memorizing is basically just doing stuff
over and over until it sticks. Adriane is more of an "idea man" and has
very little follow through. I pointed out that if she really wanted to
memorize her multiplication tables, she would need to just bite the bullet
and do it.
Thoughts? Comments?
Julie
10yo dd came in today and asked for math and spelling curriculum. YIKES!
She doesn't set the world on fire in either of these areas admittedly, but
turns out she was subjected to a "pop quiz" by some of the kids in her
gymnastics class and "failed" miserably. Adriane was mortified. She
doesn't handle herself well in these situations and tends to just stand
there and be embarrassed.
We talked about how different kids learn different things even in the same
school system.....how the kids were just spouting off stuff they memorized
and were not smarter than her....different ways that situation could be
handled in the future....things that she knows, like animal husbandry, that
those kids probably don't know....she didn't really buy it.
I pointed out some available resources to learn what she was asking for,
told her I would help her, but that memorizing is basically just doing stuff
over and over until it sticks. Adriane is more of an "idea man" and has
very little follow through. I pointed out that if she really wanted to
memorize her multiplication tables, she would need to just bite the bullet
and do it.
Thoughts? Comments?
Julie
Joseph Fuerst
Lynda:
The public may be obsessed with collecting money....so are some private
industries. Like airlines getting a $15 billion dollar bailout. The whole
travel industry is hoping the loot the taxpayers by accessing corporate
welfare....hopiing to cash in in this tragedy. Some non-profits are hoping
to cash in, too.....like ones who are thick in the administrative cost
department, and those who collect in the guise of 9/11, but use donations
as general funds to support programs of their own agenda.
As for John Q. Public and your typical Joe Sixpack.....well, I am guessing
that we all want to DO something to *help*. Most of us are not able to go
to one of the crash sites and remove rubble, identify bodies, comfort
families in the depths of grief. But we WANT to.....many can donate
blood....which helps immensely, in general, but probably didn't effectthe
outcome for many victims of 9/11. Most people want to show support....and
the media tells us giving $$$$ is the way to do it. So, is there some
Latin phrase of wisdom for "donator beware" ?? We do need to investigate
those agencies receiving our assistance...financial or otherwise...to see
how they utilize funds to assist those the donator hopes to assist.
JMHO,
Suz
I think the public has become obsessed with collecting money and I think the
media is having hayday with it. Politics as usual!
Lynda
The public may be obsessed with collecting money....so are some private
industries. Like airlines getting a $15 billion dollar bailout. The whole
travel industry is hoping the loot the taxpayers by accessing corporate
welfare....hopiing to cash in in this tragedy. Some non-profits are hoping
to cash in, too.....like ones who are thick in the administrative cost
department, and those who collect in the guise of 9/11, but use donations
as general funds to support programs of their own agenda.
As for John Q. Public and your typical Joe Sixpack.....well, I am guessing
that we all want to DO something to *help*. Most of us are not able to go
to one of the crash sites and remove rubble, identify bodies, comfort
families in the depths of grief. But we WANT to.....many can donate
blood....which helps immensely, in general, but probably didn't effectthe
outcome for many victims of 9/11. Most people want to show support....and
the media tells us giving $$$$ is the way to do it. So, is there some
Latin phrase of wisdom for "donator beware" ?? We do need to investigate
those agencies receiving our assistance...financial or otherwise...to see
how they utilize funds to assist those the donator hopes to assist.
JMHO,
Suz
I think the public has become obsessed with collecting money and I think the
media is having hayday with it. Politics as usual!
Lynda
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/25/01 6:13:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< And, exactly who is the money going to? All I hear is fire fighters and
WTC. What about the folks in the Pentagon and on the flight that went down
before it could do any damage? >>
I have been thinking a lot about these people. There is hardly any
coverage on the status of the Pentagon or the crash in Pitt.. I often wish I
would hear of a source for contribution for these families. The plane crash
over Pitt. is probably foremost in my mind when thinking of flying back home
for a visit. I cannot imagine the scene at the time. Horrifying. It tears me
apart to think of these people on those planes.
NICKI~
[email protected] writes:
<< And, exactly who is the money going to? All I hear is fire fighters and
WTC. What about the folks in the Pentagon and on the flight that went down
before it could do any damage? >>
I have been thinking a lot about these people. There is hardly any
coverage on the status of the Pentagon or the crash in Pitt.. I often wish I
would hear of a source for contribution for these families. The plane crash
over Pitt. is probably foremost in my mind when thinking of flying back home
for a visit. I cannot imagine the scene at the time. Horrifying. It tears me
apart to think of these people on those planes.
NICKI~
Teri Loftis
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:13:47
Julie Stauffer wrote:
I guess we need to give them more preparation for these things. What would you say to those kids if you were in her shoes? Give them a confident reply.
All those conversations about different learning styles, what she knows over them...those are lost at times like that.
It's a good learning experience for realizing the damage you can do to another person with your words.
I would go ahead and get her a math workbook. You can get those spectrum ones that are by grade and tell her to work at her own pace. She may love it, she may hate it. It's cheaper than a curriculum and will give her what she is looking for. I have one child that adores her workbooks and my 10 hates them...but that is what she pulls out when she runs into something like that. (I buy them for the 10 too, because inevitably she feels jilted if she doesn't get one)
They also use those workbooks when they "play school" with their friends. They enjoy checking each others work. And the answers are right in back...mine use these to check their own work....not so mortifying to catch your own mistakes.
Teri
Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S.
http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:13:47
Julie Stauffer wrote:
>HELP!!!Poor little! My 10yo dd has had this happen too. My heart breaks because we make so much progress with her self esteem and then it is so easily knocked down. Not to mention the immediate feelings of guilt I get for not working more on her times tables.
>
>10yo dd came in today and asked for math and spelling curriculum. YIKES!
>She doesn't set the world on fire in either of these areas admittedly, but
>turns out she was subjected to a "pop quiz" by some of the kids in her
>gymnastics class and "failed" miserably. Adriane was mortified. She
>doesn't handle herself well in these situations and tends to just stand
>there and be embarrassed.
I guess we need to give them more preparation for these things. What would you say to those kids if you were in her shoes? Give them a confident reply.
All those conversations about different learning styles, what she knows over them...those are lost at times like that.
It's a good learning experience for realizing the damage you can do to another person with your words.
I would go ahead and get her a math workbook. You can get those spectrum ones that are by grade and tell her to work at her own pace. She may love it, she may hate it. It's cheaper than a curriculum and will give her what she is looking for. I have one child that adores her workbooks and my 10 hates them...but that is what she pulls out when she runs into something like that. (I buy them for the 10 too, because inevitably she feels jilted if she doesn't get one)
They also use those workbooks when they "play school" with their friends. They enjoy checking each others work. And the answers are right in back...mine use these to check their own work....not so mortifying to catch your own mistakes.
Teri
Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S.
http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp
Teri Loftis
I think the media is convincing us that we, as Americans, must do something to help, somehting to show our patriotism. And I think the media, and peer pressure are convincing many people that NOT giving money to the rc or whoever is pretty much unAmerican.
So, you want to do something...but what? We are so stuck on this immediate gratification thing. What I feel I need to do is not going to happen overnight. I need to practice wha tthis tragedy has taught me all the days of my life. Not just during this immediate crisis.
I need to practice tolerance, I need to teach it to my children.
I need to practice giving, I need to teach my dhildren to give.
I need to sacrifice, I need to teach my children to sacrifice.
I need to pray, I need to teach my children to pray.
I need to be willing to do the small stuff in my own neighborhood to promote unitedness, I need to be proud of being an American---every day. I need to sing God Bless America, I need to pledge allegiance to the flag from now until my death I need to do these things.
It's so easy to act in times of crisis...the hard part comes when the crisis is over...What will you do then?
Teri
Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S.
http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp
So, you want to do something...but what? We are so stuck on this immediate gratification thing. What I feel I need to do is not going to happen overnight. I need to practice wha tthis tragedy has taught me all the days of my life. Not just during this immediate crisis.
I need to practice tolerance, I need to teach it to my children.
I need to practice giving, I need to teach my dhildren to give.
I need to sacrifice, I need to teach my children to sacrifice.
I need to pray, I need to teach my children to pray.
I need to be willing to do the small stuff in my own neighborhood to promote unitedness, I need to be proud of being an American---every day. I need to sing God Bless America, I need to pledge allegiance to the flag from now until my death I need to do these things.
It's so easy to act in times of crisis...the hard part comes when the crisis is over...What will you do then?
Teri
Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S.
http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp