Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1523
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In a message dated 10/05/2001 6:23:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Not even Captain Underpants! It's Garfield or Foxtrot or a familiar
picture book.
old Prince Valiant Comic Books....I branched out to those Illustrated Classic
Comics (anybody know the exact name? I'm SO wishing I could re-new my
acquaintance with "MacBeth" in comic format <g>), and then slid completely
into heavy tomes and never looked back. :-)
My 14 yr. old dd was a real Tin-Tin fan, herself, when she first began her
reading adventure, herself.
Becky
*** Becky***
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968), Strength to Love, 1963
[email protected] writes:
<< Not even Captain Underpants! It's Garfield or Foxtrot or a familiar
picture book.
>>I wouldn't worry. Some of my earliest reading memories are of devouring
old Prince Valiant Comic Books....I branched out to those Illustrated Classic
Comics (anybody know the exact name? I'm SO wishing I could re-new my
acquaintance with "MacBeth" in comic format <g>), and then slid completely
into heavy tomes and never looked back. :-)
My 14 yr. old dd was a real Tin-Tin fan, herself, when she first began her
reading adventure, herself.
Becky
*** Becky***
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968), Strength to Love, 1963
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In a message dated 10/5/01 10:15:18 AM, Beckyleach@... writes:
<< .I branched out to those Illustrated Classic
Comics (anybody know the exact name? I'm SO wishing I could re-new my
acquaintance with "MacBeth" in comic format <g>), and then slid completely
into heavy tomes and never looked back. :-) >>
There wasa newer series of classic comics (I wish they would just reprint the
old ones!!) with a different artist for each one. Famous comic book artists,
apparently, but I don't follow that genre. I have a few of them. I LOVE
that kind of exposure to classics. But we needed them more in the 1960's
than kids with VCRs need them now.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
<< .I branched out to those Illustrated Classic
Comics (anybody know the exact name? I'm SO wishing I could re-new my
acquaintance with "MacBeth" in comic format <g>), and then slid completely
into heavy tomes and never looked back. :-) >>
There wasa newer series of classic comics (I wish they would just reprint the
old ones!!) with a different artist for each one. Famous comic book artists,
apparently, but I don't follow that genre. I have a few of them. I LOVE
that kind of exposure to classics. But we needed them more in the 1960's
than kids with VCRs need them now.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
Julie Stauffer
<<Dr. Phil......verbal abuse>>
You really see Dr. Phil as abusive?!?!?!?!? Wow. I find him direct and to
the point, but I have never seen him doing anything I thought was abusive in
any way.
I do agree that people who agree to be dissected in front of millions after
only a very brief interview probably don't know what they are getting in
to.....but abusive? Nah. at least not in my book.......which is probably
different from your book :)
Actually, he works very much like most therapists I have worked
with.....reframing situations without the benefits of qualifiers.
Julie
You really see Dr. Phil as abusive?!?!?!?!? Wow. I find him direct and to
the point, but I have never seen him doing anything I thought was abusive in
any way.
I do agree that people who agree to be dissected in front of millions after
only a very brief interview probably don't know what they are getting in
to.....but abusive? Nah. at least not in my book.......which is probably
different from your book :)
Actually, he works very much like most therapists I have worked
with.....reframing situations without the benefits of qualifiers.
Julie
Lynda
Yup, I find him to be verbally abusive sometimes and totally insensitive at
others and too frequently all about his 15 minutes. I worked in a facility
with an acute psych wing. Did the intake and ran some of the groups and
rarely saw much confrontational therapy and when I did, didn't see much in
the way of results.
A good therapist would stop and back up if they saw a person squirm and try
to crawl into the chair they are sitting on, kinda like looking for an
escape hatch with that "what did I get myself into" look on their face.
Sure, it works for some and sure some of those folks "look" like they are
o.k. with what he is doing. But more of them look like good little Stepford
wives nodding their heads like those plastic things that folks use to put in
the back window of cars or on their dash.
You see the same looks on half the faces of folks when she does the book
thing. The kinda "yes I'm getting it look" that really says I know I'm
suppose to be getting it and this book is in so I'll nod my head and agree
so I can be "in."
What I'd like to see is a one year after show to see if anyone actually got
any benefit from their sessions with good ol' Phil.
An example of the verally abusive thing--I just find the whole harassment,
badgering, eye rolling, put down attitude to be verbal abuse. On one show,
a woman tried about 4 or 5 times to explain what she meant and why she was
where she was at. He interrupted her everytime and told her she was wrong
and making excuses. It was one put down after another--"don't you get it,"
"stop making excuses," "get real," and then goes on to say "do you know why
I'm picking on you." Poor woman looked dazed and confused and he just kept
on pounding. Not terribly professional, more along the lines of shock
jocks, not a therapist. And obviously he is the one that was having the
blonde moment and "doesn't get it" because there is a difference between
explaining and excuses.
See, now you know how I really feel <g>
Lynda
others and too frequently all about his 15 minutes. I worked in a facility
with an acute psych wing. Did the intake and ran some of the groups and
rarely saw much confrontational therapy and when I did, didn't see much in
the way of results.
A good therapist would stop and back up if they saw a person squirm and try
to crawl into the chair they are sitting on, kinda like looking for an
escape hatch with that "what did I get myself into" look on their face.
Sure, it works for some and sure some of those folks "look" like they are
o.k. with what he is doing. But more of them look like good little Stepford
wives nodding their heads like those plastic things that folks use to put in
the back window of cars or on their dash.
You see the same looks on half the faces of folks when she does the book
thing. The kinda "yes I'm getting it look" that really says I know I'm
suppose to be getting it and this book is in so I'll nod my head and agree
so I can be "in."
What I'd like to see is a one year after show to see if anyone actually got
any benefit from their sessions with good ol' Phil.
An example of the verally abusive thing--I just find the whole harassment,
badgering, eye rolling, put down attitude to be verbal abuse. On one show,
a woman tried about 4 or 5 times to explain what she meant and why she was
where she was at. He interrupted her everytime and told her she was wrong
and making excuses. It was one put down after another--"don't you get it,"
"stop making excuses," "get real," and then goes on to say "do you know why
I'm picking on you." Poor woman looked dazed and confused and he just kept
on pounding. Not terribly professional, more along the lines of shock
jocks, not a therapist. And obviously he is the one that was having the
blonde moment and "doesn't get it" because there is a difference between
explaining and excuses.
See, now you know how I really feel <g>
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer <jnjstau@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1523
> <<Dr. Phil......verbal abuse>>
>
> You really see Dr. Phil as abusive?!?!?!?!? Wow. I find him direct and
to
> the point, but I have never seen him doing anything I thought was abusive
in
> any way.
>
> I do agree that people who agree to be dissected in front of millions
after
> only a very brief interview probably don't know what they are getting in
> to.....but abusive? Nah. at least not in my book.......which is probably
> different from your book :)
>
> Actually, he works very much like most therapists I have worked
> with.....reframing situations without the benefits of qualifiers.
>
> Julie
>
>
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Bridget E Coffman
>I really don't know. I may have heard it somewhere and retained it or I
> > Tyranny of the majority is tyranny nonetheless.
> >
>
> I *really* like that quote. Did you write that?
>
> Brenda
>
>
may have just thought it, I'm just not sure. But the events of the last
few weeks and the number of times I've been told I am unAmerican led me
to start using it as a tag-line.
Bridget
ps - sorry for the delay. I've been camping ( and selling crafts - it's
a big festival at a campgrounds)
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Tyranny of the majority is tyranny nonetheless.
Tia Leschke
>What do you make, Bridget?
>ps - sorry for the delay. I've been camping ( and selling crafts - it's
>a big festival at a campgrounds)
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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