Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: John Holts take/age divisions and limitations wi...
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In a message dated 9/26/01 9:59:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together and
not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very happy.
And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and smother'
sure don't help.
Brenda
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> So when I see a homeschooling group moving toward kids' activities (insteadI'm so glad you brought up that point. I still struggle with this one. I keep
> of family activities), and age divisions, it comes closer to playing school
> without a building than to the vision of unschooling which is so important
> to
> me personally.
getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together and
not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very happy.
And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and smother'
sure don't help.
Brenda
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Tia Leschke
>I think it's fine to spend as much time together as you're both comfortable
>I'm so glad you brought up that point. I still struggle with this one. I keep
>getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
>group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together and
>not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very happy.
>And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and smother'
>sure don't help.
with. Something to keep in mind though. If your son is able to make a
small group of homeschooling friends while he's young, say under about 10,
he's going to be a little less likely to want to go to school when he hits
the teens. At least that's what happened in the opposite direction with my
son. I avoided the drive to town (time, gas) as much as possible when he
was younger. Unfortunately, that's where the hs kids are. There aren't
any close to his age in our small town, so he has stuck to the friends he's
made playing sports. They all go to school.
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Johanna SanInocencio
Does your son want to be with you? Have you ever denied him taking a class
he was genuinely interested in? Some people just don't get it. (Meaning
them, not you)
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
he was genuinely interested in? Some people just don't get it. (Meaning
them, not you)
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: John Holts take/age divisions and
limitations wi...
> In a message dated 9/26/01 9:59:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> SandraDodd@... writes:
>
>
> > So when I see a homeschooling group moving toward kids' activities
(instead
> > of family activities), and age divisions, it comes closer to playing
school
> > without a building than to the vision of unschooling which is so
important
> > to
> > me personally.
>
> I'm so glad you brought up that point. I still struggle with this one. I
keep
> getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
> group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together
and
> not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very
happy.
> And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and
smother'
> sure don't help.
>
> Brenda
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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In a message dated 9/26/01 11:46:04 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
saninocencio@... writes:
*family*. In my own home growing up, we all had our own thing, which to some
degree is great. But there just wasn't this unity feeling that I see/feel in
other families that are tight knit. Ours was more like a group of people that
just happened to live in the same house. And as was posted in another
message, it was like life outside the home mattered more. So I understand why
my family thinks it's weird, but sometimes I can't handle the opposition, so
to speak. I'm so grateful for this mailing list!!!
Brenda
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saninocencio@... writes:
> Does your son want to be with you? Have you ever denied him taking a classYeah, he does. And no, I haven't. I'm just retraining my mind and concept of
> he was genuinely interested in? Some people just don't get it. (Meaning
> them, not you)
> Johanna
> Life is the ultimate learning experience!
>
*family*. In my own home growing up, we all had our own thing, which to some
degree is great. But there just wasn't this unity feeling that I see/feel in
other families that are tight knit. Ours was more like a group of people that
just happened to live in the same house. And as was posted in another
message, it was like life outside the home mattered more. So I understand why
my family thinks it's weird, but sometimes I can't handle the opposition, so
to speak. I'm so grateful for this mailing list!!!
Brenda
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Elizabeth Hill
> >I think that there are strong traces in our culture from Prussian-style
> > I'm so glad you brought up that point. I still struggle with this one. I
> keep
> > getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
> > group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together
> and
> > not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very
> happy.
> > And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and
> smother'
> > sure don't help.
> >
childrearing that was designed to raise the most obedient and fiercest soldiers
for the state. When one wants to raise this particularly flavor of macho
fighting men, then taking them away from their mothers at an early age is part
of the strategy.
Olga Siverstein? wrote a pretty good book called The Courage to Raise Good
Men. I think it's a huge, but popular, myth that spending time with mom causes
boys to take on (eek!) feminine qualities. (Not that I think feminine
qualities are bad, but our culture does.)
Betsy
Elizabeth Hill
> >I think that there are strong traces in our culture from Prussian-style
> > I'm so glad you brought up that point. I still struggle with this one. I
> keep
> > getting the fear/feeling that I'm supposed to be sending my son to all the
> > group stuff that we can afford. Like I'm harming him by us being together
> and
> > not sending him away for other activities. Even though he seems very
> happy.
> > And comments from family like 'it's a fine line between mother and
> smother'
> > sure don't help.
> >
childrearing that was designed to raise the most obedient and fiercest soldiers
for the state. When one wants to raise this particularly flavor of macho
fighting men, then taking them away from their mothers at an early age
is part
of the strategy.
Olga Siverstein? wrote a pretty good book called The Courage to Raise Good
Men. I think it's a huge, but popular, myth that spending time with mom causes
boys to take on (eek!) feminine qualities. (Not that I think feminine
qualities are bad, but our culture does.)
Betsy