Sheri Piersol

I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from yesterday
and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of recent
events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the missing list. My
mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is a retired
big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the military...I
haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhatten, I am sure they are
fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling... I had the
TV on too much and am grumpy...

I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I have heard
some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story too, not
always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have been using
unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working and I am
amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my relationship to my
kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert to my
yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off insurance, my
counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't always feel
that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in tears and my
five year old to revert to some old behaviors.

I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
(husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you come
from a troubled beginnings and overcome?

Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it poorly. I am
feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh words right
now. I need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance. Thanks .

~Sheri

Tia Leschke

Sheri,
First a big hug for you.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Sheri}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

>I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from yesterday
>and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of recent
>events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the missing list. My
>mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is a retired
>big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the military...I
>haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhatten, I am sure they are
>fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling... I had the
>TV on too much and am grumpy...

Your response seems pretty natural to me.


>I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I have heard
>some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story too, not
>always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have been using
>unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working and I am
>amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my relationship to my
>kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert to my
>yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off insurance, my
>counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't always feel
>that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in tears and my
>five year old to revert to some old behaviors.

Maybe you're one of the sanest people she knows because you're working so
hard to overcome your past. There sure are a lot of people out there who
would rather justify the way they treat their kids than change it. (And
I'm not talking about anyone here.) I've also yelled at my kids at times
and even hit them and felt terrible about it. The thing that kept me from
feeling too horrible (besides knowing that I was doing my best and trying
to improve) was realizing that I've done a better job at parenting than my
parents. And my daughter is doing a better job than I've done.


>I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
>them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
>(husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
>badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you come
>from a troubled beginnings and overcome?

If I was in your situation, I'd probably be feeling and reacting much the
way you are. Give yourself credit for trying. Hang in there. I can tell
what a good mother you are precisely because you're giving yourself such a
hard time about your slip ups. Can you find a way to pamper yourself a
bit? It's awfully hard to give when your own tank is empty.
Tia

Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Sheri,

I agree with what Tia said. . . the first big step is admitting to yourself.
. . .pat yourself on the back for getting to that point. . . I am so tired. .
. I know others will have more to say, but I wanted to let you know you are
loved.

lovemary


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In a message dated 9/12/01 11:23:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
leschke@... writes:


> >I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from yesterday
> >and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of
> recent
> >events.

I feel bad that I've skipped all the ones about the tragedy. My own personal
life is sort of in upheaval, mia ex is returning and wants to see son, and
I'm trying to keep a grip. My heart sank yesterday, but I'm in withdraw mode
from this and my personal stuff. I too have neglected my son and he really
needs me now more than ever. I've been here some, but not all here. Fear is
really strong right now, I'm trying to breathe a lot.

Love and hugs to all

Brenda


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In a message dated 09/12/2001 10:56:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:


> I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
> them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
> (husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
> badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you come
> from a troubled beginnings and overcome?
>
> Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it poorly. I am
> feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh words right
> now. I need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance. Thanks .
>
>

Sheri, I'm on my way out to a meeting, but here, at the least, are hugs and
energy {{{{{Sheri}}}}}

The wonderful thing about kids is that when we screw up and apologize, and
explain what WE need, is that they can be the greatest support. Let your kids
take care of you as you take care of them. Skip over the squabbling posts and
enjoy the joyful ones. You are loved, and you are NOT a failure, even if you
mess up sometimes.

Kathryn


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In a message dated 9/12/2001 9:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
sheri@... writes:

<< need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance >>

You have it. Peace be with you and your family at this very horrible time. We
all do things that we regret but we are just human and doing the best we can.


The recent events has overwhelmed us here and we do not know anyone involved
and are far removed in KS. But still it has touched us deeply. My kids are
older and they are glued to the tv or radio listening and watching in
disbelief. When we see the destruction in Manhatten we are shocked yet they
say what we are seeing is nothing compared to what is there. When we hear the
victims families crying on tv holding pictures of their loved ones wanting to
know if anyone has seen them, well, I do not think we will be the same.

For anyone who knows someone that is missing, or hurt, our thoughts are with
you.

Candace

Bridget E Coffman

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:32:32 -0400 "Sheri Piersol" <sheri@...>
writes:
>
> I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after
neglecting
> them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect
us,
> (husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
> badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you
come
> from a troubled beginnings and overcome?

Sheri,

Please don't feel like a failure. You sound plenty okay to me. I think
what you need to do is find that point of balance that works for you
family. I've been at this for 6 years, and only recently did I realize
that my needs counted to. I used to just let the kids do whatever all
day, I took them to lots of cools places and ran myself ragged working
and going on field trips and then coming home to a mess of a house.
Throw in a couple of major illnesses and it was not pretty.
Anyway, I realized just recently that it is not unreasonable for me to
expect my teenagers to help with the house. We sat down and discussed it
and I talked to them about how unfair it was to Ron who came home from
work and did housework every night to help me. That's when we hashed out
the job list that has been so pilloried here. But untimately what has
occurred is that they now feel like they have MORE power in the household
and therefore more responsibility.
I know your children are younger than mine, but don't forget to put your
own health and mental wellbeing into the equation when you are looking at
what is working for your family.

Bridget


~~~~~~~~~~~~ F u cn rd ths u cnt spl wrth a dm! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If electricity comes from electrons . . .
. . . does that mean that morality comes from morons?

Johanna SanInocencio

Sheri, don't be too hard on yourself. I think we all have elevated stress
level right now. Many of us will be directly affected in the aftermath of
this. Just give your kids hugs and reassurance of your love. Let them know
at the level they can handle that you are concerned and spend some time with
them right now. I have been very distracted by all the events and concerned
also. At first I was getting snappy with the children, but as we talked
about what was going on, there was a change of mindset and we are in this
together. We have heard from family members in NY and they are all ok. Today
I am going to make sure I am listening to what my children are feeling and
experiencing so I can support them. Is your husband home right now, or away?
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheri Piersol" <sheri@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:32 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] current events


> I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from
yesterday
> and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of
recent
> events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the missing list.
My
> mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is a retired
> big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the military...I
> haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhatten, I am sure they
are
> fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling... I had the
> TV on too much and am grumpy...
>
> I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I have
heard
> some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story too, not
> always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have been using
> unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working and I am
> amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my relationship to my
> kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert to my
> yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off insurance, my
> counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't always
feel
> that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in tears and my
> five year old to revert to some old behaviors.
>
> I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
> them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
> (husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
> badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you come
> from a troubled beginnings and overcome?
>
> Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it poorly. I
am
> feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh words right
> now. I need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance. Thanks .
>
> ~Sheri
>
>
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You are not alone. We have Canadian friends who work in Manhattan in
buildings close to the WTC, and at the WTC. Our priority were on our stress,
as we all got very anxious over the past few hours because no one could
contact them on the net. But we found out last night,that
they were within the few grateful ones who escaped.
I think a lot of such stories will come out over the next few days. Our
thoughts and prayers are with the ones still waiting for answers.
Lucie in Ottawa, Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: Sheri Piersol <sheri@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] current events


> I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from
yesterday
> and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of
recent
> events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the missing list.
My
> mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is a retired
> big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the military...I
> haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhattan, I am sure they
are
> fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling... I had the
> TV on too much and am grumpy...
>
> I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I have
heard
> some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story too, not
> always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have been using
> unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working and I am
> amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my relationship to my
> kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert to my
> yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off insurance, my
> counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't always
feel
> that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in tears and my
> five year old to revert to some old behaviors.
>
> I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
> them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
> (husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
> badly. I could sure use some words of encouragement. Have any of you come
> from a troubled beginnings and overcome?
>
> Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it poorly. I
am
> feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh words right
> now. I need some unschooling encouragement and words of guidance. Thanks .
>
> ~Sheri
>
>
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Joan Wilson

Dearest Sheri,

You are not alone.

My how you must love your children.

I used to yell and spank also. I too, fall into old patterns sometimes. My
children are very forgiving when I come to my senses and figure out what I
need to apologize for. Time and more time -- it takes time. And when you
get frustrated try going to the bathroom.

My heart goes out to you and your family -- this is not an easy time for
you.

You, your family and your children are the most important thing in this
(your) world ... everything else really doesn't matter ... the dishes (one
will get cleaned when it's needed), the dust (it will move someday), the
peanutbutter in the chair (it's just a chair - and so what - someday it will
be replaced or covered with a blanket) -- So who cares if the house is a
mess -- if they care about it they will help with it.

I don't know what else I can say -- I am not always good with words.
Except - My thoughts are with you and I hope any good feelings of love from
me reach you. Your post certainly touched me.

With all my heart - Love,

Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: Sheri Piersol [mailto:sheri@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] current events


I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from
yesterday
and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in light of
recent
events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the missing list.
My
mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is a retired
big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the military...I
haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhatten, I am sure they
are
fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling... I had the
TV on too much and am grumpy...

I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I have
heard
some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story too, not
always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have been using
unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working and I am
amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my relationship to my
kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert to my
yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off insurance, my
counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't always
feel
that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in tears and my
five year old to revert to some old behaviors.

I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after neglecting
them for two days. The current events will probably directly effect us,
(husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me feel
badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of you come
from a troubled beginnings and overcome?

Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it poorly. I
am
feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh words right
now. I need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance. Thanks .

~Sheri


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Dawn

Hi Sheri:

Sorry to hear about where you are at right now. My husband was a
firefighter in the Military until 5 years ago and we were just
thinking how he won't get called as his reserve status was over 2
years ago. Then we began talking about all the brave people in NYC
who ran into those buildings to save others. Especially this week it
seems that some of the stuff has been petty on the list, maybe a way
to vent frustration over the feeling of powerlessness and wondering
what on earth is God's plan with all this chaos going on.

I know that for me each day is a new journey with my kids and the
unschooling way of life. As I let go of old behaviors in my life
that don't work for me personally anymore I also let go of some of
the old behaviors I've had with them. I actually told Zak yesterday
that if he didn't stay close to me in the library I was going to put
him over my knee and smack his bum infront of everyone. Instead of
telling him how scarey it is for me when he takes Max in his stroller
on a tour of the library and they are both out of my sight. Learning
to be more honest with my kids will help me. Later on in the day
when Max was down for his nap I sat Zak down and we talked about why
mummy had said what she said in the library. He said "but I can take
care of myself mummy. IF anyone tries to hurt me I'll scream and
kick and run away".... Maybe that would work, but the thought of him
being abducted still lingers in my head.

It's one day at a time.

Dawn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sheri Piersol [mailto:sheri@m...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:33 PM
> To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] current events
>
>
> I must admit that I too haven't really read most of the posts from
> yesterday
> and today. I skimmed past most, they seemed far too petty in
light of
> recent
> events. One friend of the family dead and two others on the
missing list.
> My
> mom is heart broken, they are her friends. Darren her husband is
a retired
> big wig in the Air Force. So many family and friends in the
military...I
> haven't heard from my dear friend who lives in Manhatten, I am
sure they
> are
> fine but will feel better when I hear from her. I am rambling...
I had the
> TV on too much and am grumpy...
>
> I have been snapping at my kids, which makes me feel terrible. I
have
> heard
> some amazing personal stories from many of you. I have a story
too, not
> always pretty. I used to spank my kids and yell a lot. We have
been using
> unschooling as a path to healing, some days I feel it is working
and I am
> amazed at all I have learned and how much stronger my
relationship to my
> kids has become. Then there are days when I "lose it" and revert
to my
> yelling. I am in counseling, but am about to be kicked off
insurance, my
> counselor says I am one the sanest people she knows. But I don't
always
> feel
> that way. All it takes is one "blow out" for my kids to be in
tears and my
> five year old to revert to some old behaviors.
>
> I feel a bit like a failure tonight. I yelled at my kids, after
neglecting
> them for two days. The current events will probably directly
effect us,
> (husband is military). My house is a mess, which always makes me
feel
> badly. I could sure use some words of encouragment. Have any of
you come
> from a troubled beginnings and overcome?
>
> Please don't tear apart my post, I am sure I worded much of it
poorly. I
> am
> feeling a bit sensitive and not sure I want to deal with harsh
words right
> now. I need some unschooling encouragment and words of guidance.
Thanks .
>
> ~Sheri
>
>
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