Diet Change: was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
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Lynda- Actually we did a diet change after I researched the ADHD. Eventually
things calmed down with him. We eliminated alot of the enriched flours from
our diet, got rid of the Kraft maccaroni and cheese. Switched to Honey
instead of jellies. We had a decent diet, but I made some changes to things I
didnt know before. Like I didn't have any clue that white bread turns to
sugar once in our system. I dusted off my bread maker and started making
homemade whole weat unriched bread. I started using honey and maple to flavor
things instead of sugars, etc. He calmed down a bit, but we still have
situations. Today for instance. He was out just plain picking fights. Nothign
really violent, but definately picking fights. He's been through so much, but
I do hope that one day he can figure out how to heal enough that he's not so
angry.
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things calmed down with him. We eliminated alot of the enriched flours from
our diet, got rid of the Kraft maccaroni and cheese. Switched to Honey
instead of jellies. We had a decent diet, but I made some changes to things I
didnt know before. Like I didn't have any clue that white bread turns to
sugar once in our system. I dusted off my bread maker and started making
homemade whole weat unriched bread. I started using honey and maple to flavor
things instead of sugars, etc. He calmed down a bit, but we still have
situations. Today for instance. He was out just plain picking fights. Nothign
really violent, but definately picking fights. He's been through so much, but
I do hope that one day he can figure out how to heal enough that he's not so
angry.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Lynda
One of the things we did for the kids who came to the rehab center was to
have their bedrooms made into a "soft" place. Soft colors, no sharp corners
(futons, bean bags, no dressers unless they were put in a closet), soft
fluffy rugs, muted lights and a stereo with their choice of "soft" music.
We found that if the kids had a "soft" place to go to when they became
stressed that they could learn relaxation techniques that would help them
unwind.
Lynda
have their bedrooms made into a "soft" place. Soft colors, no sharp corners
(futons, bean bags, no dressers unless they were put in a closet), soft
fluffy rugs, muted lights and a stereo with their choice of "soft" music.
We found that if the kids had a "soft" place to go to when they became
stressed that they could learn relaxation techniques that would help them
unwind.
Lynda
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM
Subject: Diet Change: was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
> Lynda- Actually we did a diet change after I researched the ADHD.
Eventually
> things calmed down with him. We eliminated alot of the enriched flours
from
> our diet, got rid of the Kraft maccaroni and cheese. Switched to Honey
> instead of jellies. We had a decent diet, but I made some changes to
things I
> didnt know before. Like I didn't have any clue that white bread turns to
> sugar once in our system. I dusted off my bread maker and started making
> homemade whole weat unriched bread. I started using honey and maple to
flavor
> things instead of sugars, etc. He calmed down a bit, but we still have
> situations. Today for instance. He was out just plain picking fights.
Nothign
> really violent, but definately picking fights. He's been through so much,
but
> I do hope that one day he can figure out how to heal enough that he's not
so
> angry.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Back when he had his violent fits they recommended for me to remove
everything from his room except his matress. I took their advise. I was so
scared he was going to hurt himself. After he bashed out his bedroom windows
he tried to "fix" his wndows by using shaving cream and rubbing the shaving
cream on his window. Needless to say he cut himself. I didn't know until
later that he had even busted the windows. He also has been urinating
throughout the house. Not like the urinating on accident in his pants. Rather
he'll walk through the house past the bathroom and into another room, go into
a corner or the edge of the couch, pull down his pants, and urinate. Ever
since he was at the abusive school he had bm accidents. He still has these
but not nearly as often. Back when he was attending the abusive school he was
having about 6 accidents a day. Now he goes over week or so between them.
Sometimes he'll have days where he'll have maybe two for 3 days in a row, but
between these he'll go weeks.
Oh my, I just realized something. I was supposed to start a PRICE parenting
class tonight. Considering everything that happened today I ddnt' even think
about it. I'll have to find out tomorrow if they did meet or not. Has anyone
ever heard of the PRICE parenting before? I'm willing to go and see what it's
about. It's hard at times knowing how to respond to my sons behaviors. I'm
trying hard to let go of being authoritarian toward him, but it's hard to sit
back and watch him being violent toward others.
Kimberly U
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everything from his room except his matress. I took their advise. I was so
scared he was going to hurt himself. After he bashed out his bedroom windows
he tried to "fix" his wndows by using shaving cream and rubbing the shaving
cream on his window. Needless to say he cut himself. I didn't know until
later that he had even busted the windows. He also has been urinating
throughout the house. Not like the urinating on accident in his pants. Rather
he'll walk through the house past the bathroom and into another room, go into
a corner or the edge of the couch, pull down his pants, and urinate. Ever
since he was at the abusive school he had bm accidents. He still has these
but not nearly as often. Back when he was attending the abusive school he was
having about 6 accidents a day. Now he goes over week or so between them.
Sometimes he'll have days where he'll have maybe two for 3 days in a row, but
between these he'll go weeks.
Oh my, I just realized something. I was supposed to start a PRICE parenting
class tonight. Considering everything that happened today I ddnt' even think
about it. I'll have to find out tomorrow if they did meet or not. Has anyone
ever heard of the PRICE parenting before? I'm willing to go and see what it's
about. It's hard at times knowing how to respond to my sons behaviors. I'm
trying hard to let go of being authoritarian toward him, but it's hard to sit
back and watch him being violent toward others.
Kimberly U
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Johanna SanInocencio
Kimberly, my heart goes out to you. It must be hard knowing what happened to
your son and seeing his reactions. I pray he can heal and grow.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
your son and seeing his reactions. I pray he can heal and grow.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
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From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: Diet Change: was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative
Lifestyles
> Back when he had his violent fits they recommended for me to remove
> everything from his room except his matress. I took their advise. I was so
> scared he was going to hurt himself. After he bashed out his bedroom
windows
> he tried to "fix" his wndows by using shaving cream and rubbing the
shaving
> cream on his window. Needless to say he cut himself. I didn't know until
> later that he had even busted the windows. He also has been urinating
> throughout the house. Not like the urinating on accident in his pants.
Rather
> he'll walk through the house past the bathroom and into another room, go
into
> a corner or the edge of the couch, pull down his pants, and urinate. Ever
> since he was at the abusive school he had bm accidents. He still has these
> but not nearly as often. Back when he was attending the abusive school he
was
> having about 6 accidents a day. Now he goes over week or so between them.
> Sometimes he'll have days where he'll have maybe two for 3 days in a row,
but
> between these he'll go weeks.
>
> Oh my, I just realized something. I was supposed to start a PRICE
parenting
> class tonight. Considering everything that happened today I ddnt' even
think
> about it. I'll have to find out tomorrow if they did meet or not. Has
anyone
> ever heard of the PRICE parenting before? I'm willing to go and see what
it's
> about. It's hard at times knowing how to respond to my sons behaviors. I'm
> trying hard to let go of being authoritarian toward him, but it's hard to
sit
> back and watch him being violent toward others.
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
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-=-Like I didn't have any clue that white bread turns to
sugar once in our system.-=-
Carbohydrates do that. Not just white bread.
It's not unnatural. Sugar isn't evil incarnate.
Eliminating any portion of our diet is going to bring problems, even sugar,
even oils.
A big group of friends of ours went jointly on a no-carbohydrate, no-sugar
diet for a while a couple of years back. Lots lost weight. ALL got mean,
paranoid, short-tempered, and they started fighting with each other, and
yelling at people, and most of them went off the diet and were glad.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
sugar once in our system.-=-
Carbohydrates do that. Not just white bread.
It's not unnatural. Sugar isn't evil incarnate.
Eliminating any portion of our diet is going to bring problems, even sugar,
even oils.
A big group of friends of ours went jointly on a no-carbohydrate, no-sugar
diet for a while a couple of years back. Lots lost weight. ALL got mean,
paranoid, short-tempered, and they started fighting with each other, and
yelling at people, and most of them went off the diet and were glad.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
Lynda
The problem with any of the fad diets is that the zero in on one element.
If one is going to remove sugar from the diet, remove refined sugar. It is
worthless calories and has enough chemicals in it to float a boat,
figurativly speaking, of course.
There are many options out there including an organic sugar that isn't
refined and no chemicals are used to process the sugar cane or sugar beets
depending on which type you decide to use.
The are also "good" carbohydrates and "not so good" such as the old fluffy
white bread. If one bakes their own bread from a whole wheat organic flour
then you know what is in it and that there is some nutritional value.
It is the same with all the fast fixes in the supermarkets. The kidlets
love the old Bryers commercial which kinda translates to if the list of
ingredients is book length and you can read the words, don't eat it.
There are several studies going on right now that are all coming to the same
conclusion, if you revert to the diet of your ethnic ancestry you will have
less problems with heart disease and things like diabetes. Studies also
show that you will have less allergies if you eat not only organic but
locally grown.
We started this "journey" to healthier living way back when with the older
boys and then really got into it when hubby was diagnosed with cancer. I'm
not sure who was on the computer more, the kidlets or me but now when we go
to a store they read labels and they put things back faster than I do.
Lynda
If one is going to remove sugar from the diet, remove refined sugar. It is
worthless calories and has enough chemicals in it to float a boat,
figurativly speaking, of course.
There are many options out there including an organic sugar that isn't
refined and no chemicals are used to process the sugar cane or sugar beets
depending on which type you decide to use.
The are also "good" carbohydrates and "not so good" such as the old fluffy
white bread. If one bakes their own bread from a whole wheat organic flour
then you know what is in it and that there is some nutritional value.
It is the same with all the fast fixes in the supermarkets. The kidlets
love the old Bryers commercial which kinda translates to if the list of
ingredients is book length and you can read the words, don't eat it.
There are several studies going on right now that are all coming to the same
conclusion, if you revert to the diet of your ethnic ancestry you will have
less problems with heart disease and things like diabetes. Studies also
show that you will have less allergies if you eat not only organic but
locally grown.
We started this "journey" to healthier living way back when with the older
boys and then really got into it when hubby was diagnosed with cancer. I'm
not sure who was on the computer more, the kidlets or me but now when we go
to a store they read labels and they put things back faster than I do.
Lynda
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Diet Change: was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative
Lifestyles
> -=-Like I didn't have any clue that white bread turns to
> sugar once in our system.-=-
>
> Carbohydrates do that. Not just white bread.
> It's not unnatural. Sugar isn't evil incarnate.
>
> Eliminating any portion of our diet is going to bring problems, even
sugar,
> even oils.
>
> A big group of friends of ours went jointly on a no-carbohydrate, no-sugar
> diet for a while a couple of years back. Lots lost weight. ALL got mean,
> paranoid, short-tempered, and they started fighting with each other, and
> yelling at people, and most of them went off the diet and were glad.
>
> Sandra
>
> "Everything counts."
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> http://expage.com/SandraDodd
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It is drizzly here today. Rained all night. More rain
expected. Steamy, misty...ethereal.
But
My consumer habits are now a source of guilt, in light
of yesterday's horror. Is it too selfish to use the
dryer? I was just about to order some new boots. What
about the good, but expensive, mail order coffee I
drink with half and half and sugar? More internal
CHORES for me to do. I was complacently thinking that
I was doing OK in consuming of resources.....
Sorry if a similar post shows up. I sent two posts out
about an hour ago...maybe? Had to go do some
"maintenance", and checked back....
DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for the
tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
sand his work table with it. He did have some other
more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is just
checking to see if I'm paying attention?
I've watched more TV in the last day than I ever
have!!DS keeps saying "Can't we turn if off now?"
That's a change!
Sharon
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expected. Steamy, misty...ethereal.
But
My consumer habits are now a source of guilt, in light
of yesterday's horror. Is it too selfish to use the
dryer? I was just about to order some new boots. What
about the good, but expensive, mail order coffee I
drink with half and half and sugar? More internal
CHORES for me to do. I was complacently thinking that
I was doing OK in consuming of resources.....
Sorry if a similar post shows up. I sent two posts out
about an hour ago...maybe? Had to go do some
"maintenance", and checked back....
DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for the
tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
sand his work table with it. He did have some other
more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is just
checking to see if I'm paying attention?
I've watched more TV in the last day than I ever
have!!DS keeps saying "Can't we turn if off now?"
That's a change!
Sharon
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Sandra- Oh, we weren't excluding all sugar, but we were tring to cut back on
how much my son was taking in, to see if that would effect his behavior. We
switched to whole wheat bread and switched to honey instead of jelly for our
peanut butter sandwiches.
Kimberly U
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how much my son was taking in, to see if that would effect his behavior. We
switched to whole wheat bread and switched to honey instead of jelly for our
peanut butter sandwiches.
Kimberly U
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Bridget E Coffman
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:48:31 -0700 "Lynda" <lurine@...> writes:
and cheese. Oh yes adn rye bread.
Bridget
~~~~~~~~~~~~ F u cn rd ths u cnt spl wrth a dm! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If electricity comes from electrons . . .
. . . does that mean that morality comes from morons?
>the same
> There are several studies going on right now that are all coming to
> conclusion, if you revert to the diet of your ethnic ancestry you willhave
> less problems with heart disease and things like diabetes. Studiesalso
> show that you will have less allergies if you eat not only organic butThat would put me on a diet of potatoes and polish sausage and and brats
> locally grown.
>
and cheese. Oh yes adn rye bread.
Bridget
~~~~~~~~~~~~ F u cn rd ths u cnt spl wrth a dm! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If electricity comes from electrons . . .
. . . does that mean that morality comes from morons?
another Philosypher
> DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for theSounds like he's learning. This works, that doesn't.
> tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
> sand his work table with it. He did have some other
> more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is
> just
> checking to see if I'm paying attention? >>
Experimentng, lab work, trial and error. If you have
to track your subjects for charter school purposes
count this as Physics, spatial reasoning, science,
math, woodworking (elective)
If he is checking to see if your paying attention, he
may be more bothered by the news than outwardly shows.
Give him an extra big hug and have a snack.
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Kenna Rose 13 yo
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in
I hugged my kids extra tight last night. And at 16 and
13 they let me, like they needed it as much as I did.
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> lightAlso makes some of my recent problems seem petty.
> of yesterday's horror. Is it too selfish to use the
> dryer? I was just about to order some new boots.
I hugged my kids extra tight last night. And at 16 and
13 they let me, like they needed it as much as I did.
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> > DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for theMy sister lives near a large outcropping of limestone. When she is
> > tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
> > sand his work table with it. He did have some other
> > more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is
> > just
> > checking to see if I'm paying attention? >>
bored, she grabs up her little Dremmel (sp?) tool and off she goes. In a
few years some bright archaeologist will find her aliens and space ships
and geometric shapes and think the natives used to be visited by people
from another land.
I'm not suggesting your son become a vandal but maybe some of that house
stucco spread out ( thickly ) on a sheet of ply wood could be a canvas
for cave art.
Or is this the kind of thing you were hoping to avoid? <g>
Deb L
Jessi
>Sharon, mine did the same thing! He goes to me, "Boy are you watching a
>
>I've watched more TV in the last day than I ever
>have!!DS keeps saying "Can't we turn if off now?"
>That's a change!
>
>Sharon
lot of t.v. today Mom!". Had to laugh as he hardly has it off in his room :o)
Jessi
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Deb,
Cave art? I love it, will have tell my little artsy guys, they will love it
:) Maybe make an egyptian like tomb, like a cross section and add art
accordingly?
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] guilt
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:04:40 -0600
>
>
> > > DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for the
> > > tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
> > > sand his work table with it. He did have some other
> > > more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is
> > > just
> > > checking to see if I'm paying attention? >>
>
>My sister lives near a large outcropping of limestone. When she is
>bored, she grabs up her little Dremmel (sp?) tool and off she goes. In a
>few years some bright archaeologist will find her aliens and space ships
> and geometric shapes and think the natives used to be visited by people
>from another land.
>I'm not suggesting your son become a vandal but maybe some of that house
>stucco spread out ( thickly ) on a sheet of ply wood could be a canvas
>for cave art.
>Or is this the kind of thing you were hoping to avoid? <g>
>Deb L
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>No, not trying to avoid that sort of thing....just
> My sister lives near a large outcropping of
> limestone. When she is
> bored, she grabs up her little Dremmel (sp?) tool
> and off she goes. In a
> few years some bright archaeologist will find her
> aliens and space ships
> and geometric shapes and think the natives used to
> be visited by people
> from another land.
> I'm not suggesting your son become a vandal but
> maybe some of that house
> stucco spread out ( thickly ) on a sheet of ply
> wood could be a canvas
> for cave art.
> Or is this the kind of thing you were hoping to
> avoid? <g>
> Deb L
>
that the sanding attachment is very, very tiny. Meant
for little stuff....not big plywood tables. We have
big sand paper for that.
....and I want a turn for myself!!
Sharon
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Hubby was reading this over my shoulder and he said you might check with
your local cemetary or headstone carver. Sometimes they have chips of
various stones that they will give to kids. He says that is where he got
some of the stones that the kidlets tumbeled to make marble eggs.
Lynda
your local cemetary or headstone carver. Sometimes they have chips of
various stones that they will give to kids. He says that is where he got
some of the stones that the kidlets tumbeled to make marble eggs.
Lynda
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] guilt
>
> > > DS4 is driving me nuts thinking up more uses for the
> > > tiny little rotory tool I bought. He had thought to
> > > sand his work table with it. He did have some other
> > > more appropriate uses for the tool. Perhaps he is
> > > just
> > > checking to see if I'm paying attention? >>
>
> My sister lives near a large outcropping of limestone. When she is
> bored, she grabs up her little Dremmel (sp?) tool and off she goes. In a
> few years some bright archaeologist will find her aliens and space ships
> and geometric shapes and think the natives used to be visited by people
> from another land.
> I'm not suggesting your son become a vandal but maybe some of that house
> stucco spread out ( thickly ) on a sheet of ply wood could be a canvas
> for cave art.
> Or is this the kind of thing you were hoping to avoid? <g>
> Deb L
>
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