Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart

OKay, just because I'm totally curious and nosy - how many folks out
there who live "alternative lifestyles"? *S* BESIDES the unschooling!
I'll just go on and raise my hand first.

Rachel Ravenhart

KathrynJB@... wrote:


I actually almost wrote that, but then feared that people might take it
a bit

> too seriously coming from the Lesbian Unschooler. You people are
> scary ;)
> See, and now I've missed out on the good joke.
>
> Kathryn


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Bridget E Coffman

I'm not a lesbian but I have a lot of alternative beliefs. Like a belief
in open marriage.

Bridget

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:31:50 -0500 Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart
<ravenhart@...> writes:
> OKay, just because I'm totally curious and nosy - how many folks out
> there who live "alternative lifestyles"? *S* BESIDES the
> unschooling!
> I'll just go on and raise my hand first.
>
> Rachel Ravenhart
>
> KathrynJB@... wrote:
>
>
> I actually almost wrote that, but then feared that people might take
> it
> a bit
>
> > too seriously coming from the Lesbian Unschooler. You people are
> > scary ;)
> > See, and now I've missed out on the good joke.
> >
> > Kathryn
>
>
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Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart

*G* So I'm not the only parrot on the list. I'm in a poly-quad.

Rachel Ravenhart

Bridget E Coffman wrote:

> I'm not a lesbian but I have a lot of alternative beliefs. Like a
> belief
> in open marriage.
>
> Bridget


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[email protected]

I have trouble understanding why it's called Alternative, alternative to
what? I think we each have our own individual lifestyles. I guess its' just
my labels kick, I really dislike all these labels, but there seems to be no
way to not have them, is there? sigh.

Kimberly U


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[email protected]

In a message dated 9/11/01 9:44:23 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
ravenhart@... writes:


> *S* BESIDES the unschooling!
> I'll just go on and raise my hand first.
>

What does *S* mean?

Brenda


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Lynda

The kidlets used the label maker part of one of the software programs we
have to make up "labels" for them and their friends. Middle kidlet's read
"I'm A Hoot" and youngest's read "Just Label Me ME" One of their friends
had a "Here's My Label" with a blank space under it in quotes (can you guess
who has played that goofy CD "Here's Your Sign" until he wore it out <g>).
They all had a ball and then they made up signs saying "We Hate Labels" and
they marched up and down in front of the house. There they were with their
signs and these sticky labels all over them <g> They finished their day
with a "camp out" in the backyard and they burned their labels in the fire
they roasted their marshmellows over. You should have seen all the cars
that honked and gave them a thumbs up.

Lynda

P.S. Probably would be a good idea if I explained what started all this <g>
There was a program on tv about labeling kids in school as learning disabled
or ADHD, etc. And we had a big long discussion about how harmful "labels"
can be.
----- Original Message -----
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> I have trouble understanding why it's called Alternative, alternative to
> what? I think we each have our own individual lifestyles. I guess its'
just
> my labels kick, I really dislike all these labels, but there seems to be
no
> way to not have them, is there? sigh.
>
> Kimberly U
>
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Lynda- LOL I love it!! Not to long ago we took my son into psychiatric
emergency as he, 7 years old, had bashed out his bedroom windows, was beating
on me, all around dangerous and destructive. I took the advice of some
therapists that my son had seen at the time and brought him in. After about
10 minutes with my son the psychiatrist wanted to label my son as ADHD, put
him in a mental facility for 3 days and start him on ritilin. Well, at first
we considered it, but after a minute I said H### no and we got out of there
as fast as we could. I greatly regret even considering this. Well, I did some
research on ADHD after that and ya know, I really don't believe most of what
I read. I can tell you, my son is NOT ADHD. He does have some emotional
problems steming from when he was abused several years ago by a daycare
provider. Long story, there's alot to this. Needless to say, my son does go
speak to a therapist still. He enjoys talkign to her and asks to go see her
often. He's never NOT wanted to go, but if he did I'd listen to his feelings.

After my sons abuse I had placed him in public school for the kindergarten
year. In that one year I can't even list the number of labels I heard them
want to place on my son. Some of them were quite interesting though, they
said he was ADHD yet Gifted. Hmmm, could he just have been BORED? <shakes her
head>

Anyhoo, thanks for sharing your label tale. I loved it!!

Kimberly

Kimberly U


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[email protected]

In a message dated 09/11/2001 4:24:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> Missionary position everything.
> Missionary position table-setting, meal times and menus.
> Missionary position ass-wiping.
> Missionary-position clock and calendar: Go to bed at 10:00; do laundry on
> Monday...
>

LOL Sandra,

So I guess I shoudl be raising my hand high.
Kimberly U


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Lynda

OMG, what a picture that brings forth <g> Does our clock in the family room
is male and the calendar is female cause the clock is above the calendar <g>

Lynda
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


>
> In a message dated 9/11/01 4:41:19 PM, Homeschool4us123@... writes:
>
> << I have trouble understanding why it's called Alternative, alternative
to
> what? >>
>
> Missionary position everything.
> Missionary position table-setting, meal times and menus.
> Missionary position ass-wiping.
> Missionary-position clock and calendar: Go to bed at 10:00; do laundry on
> Monday...
>
> Sandra
>
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{{{{{Kimberly's son}}}}} Poor little kidlet!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> Lynda- LOL I love it!! Not to long ago we took my son into psychiatric
> emergency as he, 7 years old, had bashed out his bedroom windows, was
beating
> on me, all around dangerous and destructive. I took the advice of some
> therapists that my son had seen at the time and brought him in. After
about
> 10 minutes with my son the psychiatrist wanted to label my son as ADHD,
put
> him in a mental facility for 3 days and start him on ritilin. Well, at
first
> we considered it, but after a minute I said H### no and we got out of
there
> as fast as we could. I greatly regret even considering this. Well, I did
some
> research on ADHD after that and ya know, I really don't believe most of
what
> I read. I can tell you, my son is NOT ADHD. He does have some emotional
> problems steming from when he was abused several years ago by a daycare
> provider. Long story, there's alot to this. Needless to say, my son does
go
> speak to a therapist still. He enjoys talkign to her and asks to go see
her
> often. He's never NOT wanted to go, but if he did I'd listen to his
feelings.
>
> After my sons abuse I had placed him in public school for the kindergarten
> year. In that one year I can't even list the number of labels I heard them
> want to place on my son. Some of them were quite interesting though, they
> said he was ADHD yet Gifted. Hmmm, could he just have been BORED? <shakes
her
> head>
>
> Anyhoo, thanks for sharing your label tale. I loved it!!
>
> Kimberly
>
> Kimberly U
>
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Lynda

Wow, the net is acting weird. I typed in one line in response and the
sucker flew right out into cyberspace!

At any rate, have you also tried diet changes. We were told that eldest and
second son were hyperactive (that was what they called it back in the dark
ages <g>). Eldest son had something blessed if I remember the name of it
but it is sort of acquired or forced dyslexia and when we took care of that
the hyper actions discontinued. Second son had food allergies. Watch out
world if he had a red apple, a peanut butter sandwich and orange drink! We
are talking pinball machine activities. Zip, zing, watch out walls!

He also reacted to chemical additives to foods. Aspertame, msg, any
preservatives. Various reactions besides the hyper zingy behavior. He was
also easily bored.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> Lynda- LOL I love it!! Not to long ago we took my son into psychiatric
> emergency as he, 7 years old, had bashed out his bedroom windows, was
beating
> on me, all around dangerous and destructive. I took the advice of some
> therapists that my son had seen at the time and brought him in. After
about
> 10 minutes with my son the psychiatrist wanted to label my son as ADHD,
put
> him in a mental facility for 3 days and start him on ritilin. Well, at
first
> we considered it, but after a minute I said H### no and we got out of
there
> as fast as we could. I greatly regret even considering this. Well, I did
some
> research on ADHD after that and ya know, I really don't believe most of
what
> I read. I can tell you, my son is NOT ADHD. He does have some emotional
> problems steming from when he was abused several years ago by a daycare
> provider. Long story, there's alot to this. Needless to say, my son does
go
> speak to a therapist still. He enjoys talkign to her and asks to go see he
r
> often. He's never NOT wanted to go, but if he did I'd listen to his
feelings.
>
> After my sons abuse I had placed him in public school for the kindergarten
> year. In that one year I can't even list the number of labels I heard them
> want to place on my son. Some of them were quite interesting though, they
> said he was ADHD yet Gifted. Hmmm, could he just have been BORED? <shakes
her
> head>
>
> Anyhoo, thanks for sharing your label tale. I loved it!!
>
> Kimberly
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> Second son had food allergies. Watch out
> world if he had a red apple, a peanut butter sandwich and orange drink! We
> are talking pinball machine activities. Zip, zing, watch out walls!

My eldest's was red koolade or some "fruit punches". Did yours eventually age
out of it or does he still avoid peanut butter? Could he eat green granny
apples?

vicki

Lynda

He learned to recognize the signs and aged out of most of it. Aspertame
makes him sick (me too for that matter) and he doesn't combine things but if
he really wants one thing or another (he will be 22 in November) he goes
ahead and eats them but knows that he will get, as he calls it "raggy" or
"twitchy." somethings make him irritable and some make him "nervous
inside."

Green apples never seemed to bother him. I think it is something to do with
the pectin in the apples combined with the red in the skin. Just my
unscientific skewed logic <g> However, he doesn't drink anything like
Hawaiian Punch he says that is like asking him to drink rocket fuel!

We have found that since we have gone all organic and got rid of all the
plastics, teflon and aluminum that everyone feels better, has less reactions
to "trigger" foods and fewer colds and illnesses. So, again, just my own
little unscientific theory is that the chemical residues on foods and
preservatives have a lot to do with the allergies and kids acting hyper (I
mean the real thing, not kenetic learners or just naturally rambuncious
kids).

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki A. Dennis <mamaxaos@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
>
>
> > Second son had food allergies. Watch out
> > world if he had a red apple, a peanut butter sandwich and orange drink!
We
> > are talking pinball machine activities. Zip, zing, watch out walls!
>
> My eldest's was red koolade or some "fruit punches". Did yours
eventually age
> out of it or does he still avoid peanut butter? Could he eat green
granny
> apples?
>
> vicki
>
>
>
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Bridget E Coffman

Mine ALL have allergies. Rachel to corn, Jenni to milk and wyndham to
wheat and life - I mean food dyes, perfumes, preservatives, lotions,
cleaners - it just FEELS like he is allergic to life sometimes.
What bothers me about the allergy thing is that many in the medical
community still refuse to acknowledge behavioural symptoms of allergies.

Bridget


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:20:42 -0700 "Lynda" <lurine@...> writes:
>
> He also reacted to chemical additives to foods. Aspertame, msg, any
> preservatives. Various reactions besides the hyper zingy behavior.
> He was
> also easily bored.
>
> Lynda

~~~~If electricity comes from electrons...does that mean that morality
comes from morons?~~~~
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell;
And by and by my Soul returned to me,
And answered, "I Myself am Heaven and Hell." -- The Rubaiyat

Johanna SanInocencio

Some red apples are treated to "enhance" the red color. Was it commercially
bought apples of organic ones?
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> He learned to recognize the signs and aged out of most of it. Aspertame
> makes him sick (me too for that matter) and he doesn't combine things but
if
> he really wants one thing or another (he will be 22 in November) he goes
> ahead and eats them but knows that he will get, as he calls it "raggy" or
> "twitchy." somethings make him irritable and some make him "nervous
> inside."
>
> Green apples never seemed to bother him. I think it is something to do
with
> the pectin in the apples combined with the red in the skin. Just my
> unscientific skewed logic <g> However, he doesn't drink anything like
> Hawaiian Punch he says that is like asking him to drink rocket fuel!
>
> We have found that since we have gone all organic and got rid of all the
> plastics, teflon and aluminum that everyone feels better, has less
reactions
> to "trigger" foods and fewer colds and illnesses. So, again, just my own
> little unscientific theory is that the chemical residues on foods and
> preservatives have a lot to do with the allergies and kids acting hyper (I
> mean the real thing, not kenetic learners or just naturally rambuncious
> kids).
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vicki A. Dennis <mamaxaos@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
> >
> >
> > > Second son had food allergies. Watch out
> > > world if he had a red apple, a peanut butter sandwich and orange
drink!
> We
> > > are talking pinball machine activities. Zip, zing, watch out walls!
> >
> > My eldest's was red koolade or some "fruit punches". Did yours
> eventually age
> > out of it or does he still avoid peanut butter? Could he eat green
> granny
> > apples?
> >
> > vicki
> >
> >
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Both. It is something in the skin, or so I understand. The natural pigment
or something. All I can positively say is that by not eating them he had no
problems.

Lynda
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From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


> Some red apples are treated to "enhance" the red color. Was it
commercially
> bought apples of organic ones?
> Johanna
> Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
>
>
> > He learned to recognize the signs and aged out of most of it. Aspertame
> > makes him sick (me too for that matter) and he doesn't combine things
but
> if
> > he really wants one thing or another (he will be 22 in November) he goes
> > ahead and eats them but knows that he will get, as he calls it "raggy"
or
> > "twitchy." somethings make him irritable and some make him "nervous
> > inside."
> >
> > Green apples never seemed to bother him. I think it is something to do
> with
> > the pectin in the apples combined with the red in the skin. Just my
> > unscientific skewed logic <g> However, he doesn't drink anything like
> > Hawaiian Punch he says that is like asking him to drink rocket fuel!
> >
> > We have found that since we have gone all organic and got rid of all the
> > plastics, teflon and aluminum that everyone feels better, has less
> reactions
> > to "trigger" foods and fewer colds and illnesses. So, again, just my
own
> > little unscientific theory is that the chemical residues on foods and
> > preservatives have a lot to do with the allergies and kids acting hyper
(I
> > mean the real thing, not kenetic learners or just naturally rambuncious
> > kids).
> >
> > Lynda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Vicki A. Dennis <mamaxaos@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles
> > >
> > >
> > > > Second son had food allergies. Watch out
> > > > world if he had a red apple, a peanut butter sandwich and orange
> drink!
> > We
> > > > are talking pinball machine activities. Zip, zing, watch out walls!
> > >
> > > My eldest's was red koolade or some "fruit punches". Did yours
> > eventually age
> > > out of it or does he still avoid peanut butter? Could he eat green
> > granny
> > > apples?
> > >
> > > vicki
> > >
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Homeschool4us123@... wrote:

> Not to long ago we took my son into psychiatric
> emergency as he, 7 years old, had bashed out his bedroom windows, was beating on me, all around dangerous and destructive. I took the advice of some therapists that my son had seen at the time and brought him in. After about 10 minutes with my son the psychiatrist wanted to label my son as ADHD, put him in a mental facility for 3 days and start him on ritilin. Well, at first we considered it, but after a minute I said H### no and we got out of there as fast as we could.

I saw a show on ADD on PBS last night that was much too positive about
ritalin for my taste.

They talked about ADD and other psyciatric disorders sometimes being combined.

They showed a very chubby kid who was treated abusively by several other
kids and was (of course) depressed. (They were theorizing that he had
ADD as well and that everything would be better if they dosed the ADD.)
As they were working through different doses of medicine to "fix" him, I
was wishing forsomeone to invent an anti-cruelty pill for the other
kids. Hell, it would be a step in the right direction to admit that the
other kids are sick.

Betsy

P.S. (Disclaimer to people who have kids on ritalin: I DO believe ADD
EXISTS, in a small fraction of the population. Disclaimer to people who
hate ritalin: But I don't think wiggling is proof of a brain disorder.)

Lynda

Well, I hate the money the pharmeceutical companies are making off this
drug. But you didn't need the disclaimer <g> I zeroed in your your nice
pill and all I could think is that is one kind of medicating I could get
behind <g>

Now, when do we set up a lab and work on inventing the thing <g>

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Hill <ecsamhill@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Alternative Lifestyles


>
>
> Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
>
> > Not to long ago we took my son into psychiatric
> > emergency as he, 7 years old, had bashed out his bedroom windows, was
beating on me, all around dangerous and destructive. I took the advice of
some therapists that my son had seen at the time and brought him in. After
about 10 minutes with my son the psychiatrist wanted to label my son as
ADHD, put him in a mental facility for 3 days and start him on ritilin.
Well, at first we considered it, but after a minute I said H### no and we
got out of there as fast as we could.
>
> I saw a show on ADD on PBS last night that was much too positive about
> ritalin for my taste.
>
> They talked about ADD and other psyciatric disorders sometimes being
combined.
>
> They showed a very chubby kid who was treated abusively by several other
> kids and was (of course) depressed. (They were theorizing that he had
> ADD as well and that everything would be better if they dosed the ADD.)
> As they were working through different doses of medicine to "fix" him, I
> was wishing forsomeone to invent an anti-cruelty pill for the other
> kids. Hell, it would be a step in the right direction to admit that the
> other kids are sick.
>
> Betsy
>
> P.S. (Disclaimer to people who have kids on ritalin: I DO believe ADD
> EXISTS, in a small fraction of the population. Disclaimer to people who
> hate ritalin: But I don't think wiggling is proof of a brain disorder.)
>
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Betsy, reminds me even more of our situation. Part of what my son's abuser
did to him was she encouraged my son's classmate to horribly tease and
ridicule him because of the bm accidents he was having. This teacher needs a
brain and a heart pill both!!!!!

Kimberly U


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Sharon Rudd

No need to prescribe pills for abuses. You don't have
to do anything. She'll get hers. What goes around
comes around.
Sharon

--- Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
> Betsy, reminds me even more of our situation. Part
> of what my son's abuser
> did to him was she encouraged my son's classmate to
> horribly tease and
> ridicule him because of the bm accidents he was
> having. This teacher needs a
> brain and a heart pill both!!!!!
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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Sharon, My sons abuser is now the principal of that school!

Kimberly

in a message dated 09/13/2001 6:01:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bearspawprint@... writes:


> No need to prescribe pills for abuses. You don't have
> to do anything. She'll get hers. What goes around
> comes around.
> Sharon
>
> --- Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
> > Betsy, reminds me even more of our situation. Part
> > of what my son's abuser
> > did to him was she encouraged my son's classmate to
> > horribly tease and
> > ridicule him because of the bm accidents he was
> > having. This teacher needs a
> > brain and a heart pill both!!!!!
> >
> > Kimberly U


Kimberly U


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Sharon Rudd

Kimberly
Something will happen. It ALWAYS does. Balance ALWAYS
comes, sooner or later.
Sharon

--- Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
> Sharon, My sons abuser is now the principal of that
> school!
>
> Kimberly
>
> in a message dated 09/13/2001 6:01:47 PM Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> bearspawprint@... writes:
>
>
> > No need to prescribe pills for abuses. You don't
> have
> > to do anything. She'll get hers. What goes
> around
> > comes around.
> > Sharon
> >
> > --- Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
> > > Betsy, reminds me even more of our situation.
> Part
> > > of what my son's abuser
> > > did to him was she encouraged my son's classmate
> to
> > > horribly tease and
> > > ridicule him because of the bm accidents he was
> > > having. This teacher needs a
> > > brain and a heart pill both!!!!!
> > >
> > > Kimberly U
>
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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Sharon-

I just hope that has happened before anymore children were hurt by her! Thank
you for your words!

Kimberly U


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