Julie Stauffer

<<to be a true unschooler I have to unparent too>>

I don't remember reading this. What I remember is you posting require your
kids to write a certain amount each week. If they don't do that and their
chores you restrict their "autonomy". You stated that the kids asked for
the structure but from everything you posted you say that you enforce it, in
one post you said you dictate what they do as far as writing each week.

It has been repeatedly brought out that if you are quite willing for the
kids not to write if they choose not to and not to do any other
"interesting" stuff if the choose not to, if you are leaving these choices
up to them, then yes, that is unschooling.

My last post on this matter.

Julie

Julie Stauffer

<<Lessons I would like him to avoid learning>>

I know I said I had posted my last, but it is like a train wreck and I'm the
rubber necker.

Bridget,

If you are concerned about Wyndam's television watching because of how it
might affect him at some future date (not getting up for work, not paying
bills), this again isn't unschooling.
Unschooling deals with the here and now. How does watching too much
television (whatever that is) affect Wyndam as a 9yo boy today? What is he
getting out of it today? What else might interest him today? What is he
avoiding today?

Julie

Bridget E Coffman

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:52:11 -0500 "Julie Stauffer" <jnjstau@...>
writes:
> <<to be a true unschooler I have to unparent too>>
>
> I don't remember reading this. What I remember is you posting require
your
> kids to write a certain amount each week. If they don't do that and
their
> chores you restrict their "autonomy". You stated that the kids asked
for
> the structure but from everything you posted you say that you enforce
it, in
> one post you said you dictate what they do as far as writing each
week.

I'm really tired of discussing this but I would be interested in seeing
just exactly where I said I dictate WHAT they write.
Writng a certain amount is on the jobs list but only with their approval.
And it is not so much their autonomy that gets restricted as it is their
ability to use my stuff and get me to do things for them. But I am
waiting to see just where i said I tell them WHAT to write.

Bridget



~~~~If electricity comes from electrons...does that mean that morality
comes from morons?~~~~
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell;
And by and by my Soul returned to me,
And answered, "I Myself am Heaven and Hell." -- The Rubaiyat

Bridget E Coffman

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:00:31 -0500 "Julie Stauffer" <jnjstau@...>
writes:
> Bridget,
>
> If you are concerned about Wyndam's television watching because of how
it
> might affect him at some future date (not getting up for work, not
paying
> bills), this again isn't unschooling.
> Unschooling deals with the here and now. How does watching too much
> television (whatever that is) affect Wyndam as a 9yo boy today? What
is he
> getting out of it today? What else might interest him today? What is
he
> avoiding today?
>
> Julie
>

The speculative long term problems were sort of in answer to someone
else's question of would their TV reception get fuzzy if they watch too
much too. As for Wyndham, left to his own obsessive nature, he would
watch TV and eat until he was an obese lump on the couch. When we tell
him to shut it off and go find something else to do, there is usually not
a struggle over it (if there is, we talk about it and forge a compromise
because he usually just really wants to see something and is waiting for
it to come on. We just tell him we'll tell him when it's time in that
case and he is happy. Then we do tell him.) But when he does turn it
off, he does go find something else to do. BUT if we don't say it, he
would never shut it off.

Bridget

~~~~If electricity comes from electrons...does that mean that morality
comes from morons?~~~~
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell;
And by and by my Soul returned to me,
And answered, "I Myself am Heaven and Hell." -- The Rubaiyat