Child Grooming
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Ok, if everyone's so relaxed about bedtimes, what about bathing?
My 3yo hasn't had his hair washed in weeks, literally. He bathes daily but
refuses to get his hair wet. Really doesn't even like to in the pool. The
last time we washed it, it was a screaming fight, me washing, him screaming.
I did this for several nights, thinking he'd get used to it and didn't. I
couldn't keep it up. He loathes it, and I loathe forcing him into something
he hates. We've even come up with some really fun stories about bugs nesting
and mice coming and cats and so on, sort of like the 'swallowed a fly' song.
:-)
Any suggestions?
Brenda
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My 3yo hasn't had his hair washed in weeks, literally. He bathes daily but
refuses to get his hair wet. Really doesn't even like to in the pool. The
last time we washed it, it was a screaming fight, me washing, him screaming.
I did this for several nights, thinking he'd get used to it and didn't. I
couldn't keep it up. He loathes it, and I loathe forcing him into something
he hates. We've even come up with some really fun stories about bugs nesting
and mice coming and cats and so on, sort of like the 'swallowed a fly' song.
:-)
Any suggestions?
Brenda
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In a message dated 9/6/01 9:11:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brendaclaspell@... writes:
<< My 3yo hasn't had his hair washed in weeks, literally. He bathes daily but
refuses to get his hair wet. >>
I think that is pretty normal. My four year old isn't crazy for it either.
Sometimes
we can convince him sometimes not. Some how or another his dad got him
to wash his hair in the shower tonight. I don't think little kid heads have
to be
washed all that often anyhow. Especially once the weather cools down. I
have given super fast hair washes under protest, but only after like you
mention, weeks have passed LOL. This doesn't really go away when they
are older either. My kids often forget to wash their hair. I don't much
care,
and my dd's hair is a lovely shade of cholrine green from hotel swimming
at the HSC conference (yes still that was over 3 wks ago!) and she
touched it up this past weekend at another hotel swimming pool we were
at LOL. I also don't require that she brush her hair unless its very
important-to me(she has long hair), although when we do go out I reqest that
she please put it in a ponytail. She hates brushing her hair although she
is rather vain about it? Go figure. Oh well I don't mind, it means she is
still a little girl : )
Kathy
brendaclaspell@... writes:
<< My 3yo hasn't had his hair washed in weeks, literally. He bathes daily but
refuses to get his hair wet. >>
I think that is pretty normal. My four year old isn't crazy for it either.
Sometimes
we can convince him sometimes not. Some how or another his dad got him
to wash his hair in the shower tonight. I don't think little kid heads have
to be
washed all that often anyhow. Especially once the weather cools down. I
have given super fast hair washes under protest, but only after like you
mention, weeks have passed LOL. This doesn't really go away when they
are older either. My kids often forget to wash their hair. I don't much
care,
and my dd's hair is a lovely shade of cholrine green from hotel swimming
at the HSC conference (yes still that was over 3 wks ago!) and she
touched it up this past weekend at another hotel swimming pool we were
at LOL. I also don't require that she brush her hair unless its very
important-to me(she has long hair), although when we do go out I reqest that
she please put it in a ponytail. She hates brushing her hair although she
is rather vain about it? Go figure. Oh well I don't mind, it means she is
still a little girl : )
Kathy
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In a message dated 9/7/2001 12:11:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
brendaclaspell@... writes:
ounds identical to our own situation here with Quinton who is 2.
lovemary
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brendaclaspell@... writes:
> Any suggestions?Oh god Brenda, when you find out a good way todo it please let me know. . .s
>
> Brenda
>
ounds identical to our own situation here with Quinton who is 2.
lovemary
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Ann
How about a bar of soap at the creek?
We used to take a bath in the lake in WI. It was so much fun. Use
Ivory it floats!
My kids swim in the pool almost everyday too...this usually sort of
cleans them off.
We have also hosed them off with soap and shampoo in the wash stall in
the barn, and in the yard.
Ha, ha, ha...
But, my kids love to take baths and showers.
l
We used to take a bath in the lake in WI. It was so much fun. Use
Ivory it floats!
My kids swim in the pool almost everyday too...this usually sort of
cleans them off.
We have also hosed them off with soap and shampoo in the wash stall in
the barn, and in the yard.
Ha, ha, ha...
But, my kids love to take baths and showers.
l
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We have three children, each of which went through the "I shall scream if you
wash my hair, and the neighbors might call 911" phase.
First, there are ways to wash hair which do not involve the tub or the
shower. Be creative.
With smaller children we had great success with kid in shower on dad's hip.
Dad sweettalks kid into one pass through the water (washcloth covering eyes
in extreme cases). Dad turns to where mom shampoos the hair with the most
tear-free baby shampoo available, head-massage, scratching if the kid likes
that, all smiley and happy, and dad passes the kid through the water again
(washcloth on eyes?). Rub it some more. Maybe pour water on with a cup
while the kid looks at the ceiling.
Final pass through the shower and into the towel-draped arms of mom.
Too coddling?
Do you want them happy or not? Do you want their hair washed or not?
When the kids are too old to ride dad's hip in the shower, maybe you have a
long kitchen cabinet where they can lie on the cabinet with their head on the
edge of the kitchen sink. MAYBE you even have a sink sprayer, or can find an
attachment for the tub with one. If the kid is lying down, head back, you
can very gently wash hair and pour water on hair only and they get no water
in their eyes or face.
If your sink is on a short cabinet and there is no possible way the kid can
fit, maybe you can make a similar hair washing station with a table, and a
tub (like a baby bathtub) on a chair under the kid's head. Pour warm (not
too warm) water with big plastic cups.
You need a towel-pillow under the kid's neck, a washcloth in the kid's hand
for defense from accidental water-in-face, and something sweet and peaceful
to do after the trauma's over.
Sandra, SO happy all three will wash their own hair in the shower now!
wash my hair, and the neighbors might call 911" phase.
First, there are ways to wash hair which do not involve the tub or the
shower. Be creative.
With smaller children we had great success with kid in shower on dad's hip.
Dad sweettalks kid into one pass through the water (washcloth covering eyes
in extreme cases). Dad turns to where mom shampoos the hair with the most
tear-free baby shampoo available, head-massage, scratching if the kid likes
that, all smiley and happy, and dad passes the kid through the water again
(washcloth on eyes?). Rub it some more. Maybe pour water on with a cup
while the kid looks at the ceiling.
Final pass through the shower and into the towel-draped arms of mom.
Too coddling?
Do you want them happy or not? Do you want their hair washed or not?
When the kids are too old to ride dad's hip in the shower, maybe you have a
long kitchen cabinet where they can lie on the cabinet with their head on the
edge of the kitchen sink. MAYBE you even have a sink sprayer, or can find an
attachment for the tub with one. If the kid is lying down, head back, you
can very gently wash hair and pour water on hair only and they get no water
in their eyes or face.
If your sink is on a short cabinet and there is no possible way the kid can
fit, maybe you can make a similar hair washing station with a table, and a
tub (like a baby bathtub) on a chair under the kid's head. Pour warm (not
too warm) water with big plastic cups.
You need a towel-pillow under the kid's neck, a washcloth in the kid's hand
for defense from accidental water-in-face, and something sweet and peaceful
to do after the trauma's over.
Sandra, SO happy all three will wash their own hair in the shower now!
Tami Labig-Duquette
I used to play beauty shop with mine, they'd walk up (unsuspecting) and I'd
saw with the best new york drawl I could muster, "Whats it gonna be? A poo,
a perm, a cut or do ya just want me to splash some water?" Usually always
did the trick, I could also do ears, finger nails and anything they thought
went along with the salon type treatment :) They had never been, I dont go
but my mom is a BIG beauty shop person and she always made it sound like the
place to be.
Indiana Tami
P.s.s. This works so well my sister will bring over her son, (my only nephew
:) ), and I do it with him he's a very precious 2 :) he'll say ami poo me!
He is my poppit :) (actual name is Christian)
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saw with the best new york drawl I could muster, "Whats it gonna be? A poo,
a perm, a cut or do ya just want me to splash some water?" Usually always
did the trick, I could also do ears, finger nails and anything they thought
went along with the salon type treatment :) They had never been, I dont go
but my mom is a BIG beauty shop person and she always made it sound like the
place to be.
Indiana Tami
P.s.s. This works so well my sister will bring over her son, (my only nephew
:) ), and I do it with him he's a very precious 2 :) he'll say ami poo me!
He is my poppit :) (actual name is Christian)
Idiana Tami
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>From: SandraDodd@..._________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Child Grooming
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:31:19 EDT
>
>We have three children, each of which went through the "I shall scream if
>you
>wash my hair, and the neighbors might call 911" phase.
>
>First, there are ways to wash hair which do not involve the tub or the
>shower. Be creative.
>
>With smaller children we had great success with kid in shower on dad's hip.
>Dad sweettalks kid into one pass through the water (washcloth covering eyes
>in extreme cases). Dad turns to where mom shampoos the hair with the most
>tear-free baby shampoo available, head-massage, scratching if the kid likes
>that, all smiley and happy, and dad passes the kid through the water again
>(washcloth on eyes?). Rub it some more. Maybe pour water on with a cup
>while the kid looks at the ceiling.
>
>Final pass through the shower and into the towel-draped arms of mom.
>
>Too coddling?
>Do you want them happy or not? Do you want their hair washed or not?
>
>When the kids are too old to ride dad's hip in the shower, maybe you have a
>long kitchen cabinet where they can lie on the cabinet with their head on
>the
>edge of the kitchen sink. MAYBE you even have a sink sprayer, or can find
>an
>attachment for the tub with one. If the kid is lying down, head back, you
>can very gently wash hair and pour water on hair only and they get no water
>in their eyes or face.
>
>If your sink is on a short cabinet and there is no possible way the kid can
>fit, maybe you can make a similar hair washing station with a table, and a
>tub (like a baby bathtub) on a chair under the kid's head. Pour warm (not
>too warm) water with big plastic cups.
>
>You need a towel-pillow under the kid's neck, a washcloth in the kid's hand
>for defense from accidental water-in-face, and something sweet and peaceful
>to do after the trauma's over.
>
>Sandra, SO happy all three will wash their own hair in the shower now!
>
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Lynda
How about him doing the washing with fun soaps. Make a trip of it so he can
choose the one that "belongs" to him. There are all kinds of colored ones,
scented ones and ones that come out looking like whipped cream. Get one of
those plastic mirrors and use suction cup thingys to hold it on the wall so
he can see what he is doing. Let him spike his hair and do silly things.
Get him laughing. Sit him in the tub without water and let him play with
the soaps and maybe those write on the tub wall soap crayons. Then let him
decide when it is rinse time and do it a little bit at a time with him
propping himself up, kinda leaning back with his arms behind him. I'd use a
cup of water because it is less threatening than one of those attachments
and just do a little bit at a time. make a game of it. Let him fill the
cup/glass and ask where he wants that one poured. Put a whole stack of wash
rags on the tub edge and tell them they are his emergency weapons against
any nasty ol' soap that tries to escape down his face.
My little sister was hysterical about it for the longest time and this might
also be another way to do it. My gramma turns on the water to low in the
tub and had my little sister play puppy and crawl around the tub on all
fours and stick her head a little bit at a time under the running water.
Then the fun part was to shake like the puppies do.
#1 son went through a stage where he was hysterical about the whole shower
thing and water in his face. We use to haul horses and everywhere you went
showers were the only recoarse you had. So the adults would carry him in
and made a game of it. Piggy back rides or on the hip or even up on the
shoulders with him "directing" the whole thing.
Good luck!
Lynda
choose the one that "belongs" to him. There are all kinds of colored ones,
scented ones and ones that come out looking like whipped cream. Get one of
those plastic mirrors and use suction cup thingys to hold it on the wall so
he can see what he is doing. Let him spike his hair and do silly things.
Get him laughing. Sit him in the tub without water and let him play with
the soaps and maybe those write on the tub wall soap crayons. Then let him
decide when it is rinse time and do it a little bit at a time with him
propping himself up, kinda leaning back with his arms behind him. I'd use a
cup of water because it is less threatening than one of those attachments
and just do a little bit at a time. make a game of it. Let him fill the
cup/glass and ask where he wants that one poured. Put a whole stack of wash
rags on the tub edge and tell them they are his emergency weapons against
any nasty ol' soap that tries to escape down his face.
My little sister was hysterical about it for the longest time and this might
also be another way to do it. My gramma turns on the water to low in the
tub and had my little sister play puppy and crawl around the tub on all
fours and stick her head a little bit at a time under the running water.
Then the fun part was to shake like the puppies do.
#1 son went through a stage where he was hysterical about the whole shower
thing and water in his face. We use to haul horses and everywhere you went
showers were the only recoarse you had. So the adults would carry him in
and made a game of it. Piggy back rides or on the hip or even up on the
shoulders with him "directing" the whole thing.
Good luck!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <brendaclaspell@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Child Grooming
> Ok, if everyone's so relaxed about bedtimes, what about bathing?
>
> My 3yo hasn't had his hair washed in weeks, literally. He bathes daily but
> refuses to get his hair wet. Really doesn't even like to in the pool. The
> last time we washed it, it was a screaming fight, me washing, him
screaming.
> I did this for several nights, thinking he'd get used to it and didn't. I
> couldn't keep it up. He loathes it, and I loathe forcing him into
something
> he hates. We've even come up with some really fun stories about bugs
nesting
> and mice coming and cats and so on, sort of like the 'swallowed a fly'
song.
> :-)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Brenda
>
>
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>
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Kirby had a set of plastic dishes with a drain tray he really liked when he
was little.
He didn't like baths.
I would ask him if he wanted to wash his dishes, and he did.
We'd give him a plastic dish pan with soapy water ("Baby Magic" or bubble
bath, not real dish soap) and leave the water running warm, but not stop up
the bathtub. So he was in there naked with running water and soapy water and
a sponge and a bunch of dishes, so every time he got at least his hands and
feet really clean. And it made the tub a place with some good memories and
not just a scary place.
Sandra
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was little.
He didn't like baths.
I would ask him if he wanted to wash his dishes, and he did.
We'd give him a plastic dish pan with soapy water ("Baby Magic" or bubble
bath, not real dish soap) and leave the water running warm, but not stop up
the bathtub. So he was in there naked with running water and soapy water and
a sponge and a bunch of dishes, so every time he got at least his hands and
feet really clean. And it made the tub a place with some good memories and
not just a scary place.
Sandra
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In a message dated 9/7/2001 10:38:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
creative. . . i have tried it all, or i should say we have. . . quinton
hates it all. . . so we wait several weeks until it really has to get done. .
. my daughter never had this issue with it. We just end up doing it as quick
as possible usually, and he is fine as soon as we are done.
lovemary
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> First, there are ways to wash hair which do not involve the tub or thei would think those of us who are presently going through this are Very
> shower. Be creative.
>
creative. . . i have tried it all, or i should say we have. . . quinton
hates it all. . . so we wait several weeks until it really has to get done. .
. my daughter never had this issue with it. We just end up doing it as quick
as possible usually, and he is fine as soon as we are done.
lovemary
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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My two children wore swimming goggles in the tub or shower for years. They
both like/ed foaming shampoos and would spend hours styling their hair and
then "swim" under water to rinse it off. They also liked to snorkel in the
tub and both fell asleep numerous times with warm water running over their
shoulders. At one point Chauncey hated having his hair washed and agreed to
get a buzz cut-then he would use a wash cloth to wash his head.
Rebecca
both like/ed foaming shampoos and would spend hours styling their hair and
then "swim" under water to rinse it off. They also liked to snorkel in the
tub and both fell asleep numerous times with warm water running over their
shoulders. At one point Chauncey hated having his hair washed and agreed to
get a buzz cut-then he would use a wash cloth to wash his head.
Rebecca
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<< i would think those of us who are presently going through this are Very
creative. . . >>
You'd think.
But really, lots of the questions that come around on unschooling.com aren't
"what are the options" but "how can we make our own chosen way work?"
Sandra
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creative. . . >>
You'd think.
But really, lots of the questions that come around on unschooling.com aren't
"what are the options" but "how can we make our own chosen way work?"
Sandra
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Bonni Sollars
He is so young, I'm sure he'll grow out of it. My husband refused to
wear clothing when he was that age and ran around in his underwear,
embarrassing his mom. But he loves clothes now and has a very unique
style. The only concern I would have is, does it hurt his head or
something.
Bonni
wear clothing when he was that age and ran around in his underwear,
embarrassing his mom. But he loves clothes now and has a very unique
style. The only concern I would have is, does it hurt his head or
something.
Bonni
Bonni Sollars
My good friend has dreads, and highly recommends it. She is gorgeous.
Bonni:)
Bonni:)
jefferson academy
> I used to play beauty shop with mine, they'd walk upWe play 'dentist' with Mia to get her teeth brushed.
> (unsuspecting) and I'd
> saw with the best new york drawl I could muster,
> "Whats it gonna be? A poo,
> a perm, a cut or do ya just want me to splash some
> water?" Usually always
> did the trick, I could also do ears, finger nails
(The only down side is she always wants a turn to be
the dentist too!)
=====
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they also sell a soap that comes in a can like shaving cream. It comes in
colors and the kids would spray it all over themselves.
Johanna
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colors and the kids would spray it all over themselves.
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Child Grooming
> My two children wore swimming goggles in the tub or shower for years.
They
> both like/ed foaming shampoos and would spend hours styling their hair and
> then "swim" under water to rinse it off. They also liked to snorkel in
the
> tub and both fell asleep numerous times with warm water running over their
> shoulders. At one point Chauncey hated having his hair washed and agreed
to
> get a buzz cut-then he would use a wash cloth to wash his head.
>
> Rebecca
>
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How about a buzz cut?
Lynda
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From: <lite2yu@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Child Grooming
> In a message dated 9/7/2001 10:38:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> SandraDodd@... writes:
>
>
> > First, there are ways to wash hair which do not involve the tub or the
> > shower. Be creative.
> >
>
> i would think those of us who are presently going through this are Very
> creative. . . i have tried it all, or i should say we have. . . quinton
> hates it all. . . so we wait several weeks until it really has to get
done. .
> . my daughter never had this issue with it. We just end up doing it as
quick
> as possible usually, and he is fine as soon as we are done.
>
> lovemary
>
>
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In a message dated 9/7/2001 9:57:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lurine@... writes:
and leave the rest mostly. once when lelia was having her hair cut, he said
he wanted his cut, but as soon as she started. . . . uh oh.
lovemary
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lurine@... writes:
> How about a buzz cut?we have to trim hair in his sleep. . . we just trim what gets in his eyes,
>
>
and leave the rest mostly. once when lelia was having her hair cut, he said
he wanted his cut, but as soon as she started. . . . uh oh.
lovemary
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In a message dated 9/7/01 7:18:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
BSOLLARS@... writes:
short cut, we've done that before....he might like dreads.....
brenda
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BSOLLARS@... writes:
> My good friend has dreads, and highly recommends it. She is gorgeous.I have seriously considered that! :-) Or maybe as someone else said, a really
> Bonni:)
>
short cut, we've done that before....he might like dreads.....
brenda
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In a message dated 9/7/01 7:57:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lite2yu@...
writes:
<< we have to trim hair in his sleep. . . we just trim what gets in his eyes,
and leave the rest mostly. >>
I thought I was the only one who trimmed sleeping children hair and nails <g>
Kathy.......who loves long hair on girls and boys ; )
writes:
<< we have to trim hair in his sleep. . . we just trim what gets in his eyes,
and leave the rest mostly. >>
I thought I was the only one who trimmed sleeping children hair and nails <g>
Kathy.......who loves long hair on girls and boys ; )
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<< we have to trim hair in his sleep. . . >>
I used to give Kirby nighttime haircuts. One side and then I'd go away until
he turned over, and get the other side. <g> He had the back really long and
the front a bowl cut, for years.
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I used to give Kirby nighttime haircuts. One side and then I'd go away until
he turned over, and get the other side. <g> He had the back really long and
the front a bowl cut, for years.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
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