Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1414
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/01 4:20:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I know this is crazy, but I created the unschoolingrecipes email list
with yahoo a few days ago.
Then I had problems with my server, and now suddenly I was no longer a
member of my groups.
I can't find unschooling recipes anywhere!
Does anyone still have the email that I sent out about it?
Thanks,
Ann
NICKI~
[email protected] writes:
<< I know this is crazy, but I created the unschoolingrecipes email list
with yahoo a few days ago.
Then I had problems with my server, and now suddenly I was no longer a
member of my groups.
I can't find unschooling recipes anywhere!
Does anyone still have the email that I sent out about it?
Thanks,
Ann
>>i couldn't even get in there. So frustrating.
NICKI~
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/01 4:20:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< They would say, "John, will you put the apple in the garbage?"
If he's defiant, the teacher would say, "You have a choice to either put
the apple in the garbage or sit down in the hall, which do you choose?"
That way the child has a feeling of control, so it takes away the need to
rebel. Rebellion is a result of a feeling of powerlessness. Choice
gives the child power.
I don't know if any of this helps. I know it's a good reminder for me.
Bonni
trouble.Right. Reminds me of the 123 concept. Count to 3 then what? The child
pushes to 3 then gets in trouble. Not very productive or empowering. Working
together to solve issues empowers them for their future interactions w/
others. Would you tell your dh to throw out the apple or sit on the sofa? No
I'd ask dh to please throw away his garbage to help me out. I do not have my
dd do chores. Yet we just came home from ballet and she began wiping up the
dog paw prints and juice stickies all on her own. She also volunteers to take
the garbage out. Kinda like I never taught her manners but b/c in this house
we ask kindly and use please and thank you very regularly she picked it up. I
rarely if ever have to remind her to say please. To me this is all tied
together. When things get overly controling or bossy around here I can step
back and see it started w/ one of us. She is reflecting. So we stop,look, and
recharge. Back to being positive and life runs smoother around here.
NICKI~
[email protected] writes:
<< They would say, "John, will you put the apple in the garbage?"
If he's defiant, the teacher would say, "You have a choice to either put
the apple in the garbage or sit down in the hall, which do you choose?"
That way the child has a feeling of control, so it takes away the need to
rebel. Rebellion is a result of a feeling of powerlessness. Choice
gives the child power.
I don't know if any of this helps. I know it's a good reminder for me.
Bonni
>>To me this isn't very positive. Put the apple in trash or get in
trouble.Right. Reminds me of the 123 concept. Count to 3 then what? The child
pushes to 3 then gets in trouble. Not very productive or empowering. Working
together to solve issues empowers them for their future interactions w/
others. Would you tell your dh to throw out the apple or sit on the sofa? No
I'd ask dh to please throw away his garbage to help me out. I do not have my
dd do chores. Yet we just came home from ballet and she began wiping up the
dog paw prints and juice stickies all on her own. She also volunteers to take
the garbage out. Kinda like I never taught her manners but b/c in this house
we ask kindly and use please and thank you very regularly she picked it up. I
rarely if ever have to remind her to say please. To me this is all tied
together. When things get overly controling or bossy around here I can step
back and see it started w/ one of us. She is reflecting. So we stop,look, and
recharge. Back to being positive and life runs smoother around here.
NICKI~
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/6/01 4:20:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< So which side of the circumsician thing are you an?
Bridget >>
No circ.
NICKI~
[email protected] writes:
<< So which side of the circumsician thing are you an?
Bridget >>
No circ.
NICKI~
Ann
Well, maybe I need to recreate that list?
I'll wait until tomorrow and we will see what happens...
Thanks for the feedback.
Ann
RValvo7626@... wrote:
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I'll wait until tomorrow and we will see what happens...
Thanks for the feedback.
Ann
RValvo7626@... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/6/01 4:20:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,ADVERTISEMENT
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << I know this is crazy, but I created the unschoolingrecipes email
> list
> with yahoo a few days ago.
> Then I had problems with my server, and now suddenly I was no longer a
>
> member of my groups.
> I can't find unschooling recipes anywhere!
> Does anyone still have the email that I sent out about it?
> Thanks,
> Ann
> >>
>
>
> i couldn't even get in there. So frustrating.
>
> NICKI~
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Bridget E Coffman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 19:15:01 EDT RValvo7626@... writes:
prove it - that it wasn't done! They took it off the bill.
We saw one being done when our first daughter was born. That was enough
to make us decide never to allow that to be done to one of ours.
Bridget
~~~~If electricity comes from electrons...does that mean that morality
comes from morons?~~~~
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell;
And by and by my Soul returned to me,
And answered, "I Myself am Heaven and Hell." -- The Rubaiyat
> In a message dated 9/6/01 4:20:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,Me too. I got charged for it when my son was born. I told them I could
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << So which side of the circumsician thing are you an?
>
> Bridget >>
>
>
> No circ.
>
> NICKI~
>
prove it - that it wasn't done! They took it off the bill.
We saw one being done when our first daughter was born. That was enough
to make us decide never to allow that to be done to one of ours.
Bridget
~~~~If electricity comes from electrons...does that mean that morality
comes from morons?~~~~
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell;
And by and by my Soul returned to me,
And answered, "I Myself am Heaven and Hell." -- The Rubaiyat
Bonni Sollars
Yes, I totally agree that positive is so much better than negative. That
is what is so much better about being at home, you can take the time and
learn from a real conversation instead of resorting to mere crowd
control. However, if you are managing a group and give a child an
option, it makes it easier for all than just giving a demand, and if the
child says "neither," then they get to choose something else or discuss
something else with the leader of the group. When I talk about methods
for making kids mind, it is usually in response to a child who already is
being rebellious, not just opinionated. Some children will test your
boundaries deliberately. My children don't but I have had to be in
charge of other children who do, some by outright defiance. For example,
if you have a child who is breaking things, you had better show them that
they do not have the liberty to do that or they will continue to do so.
They are crying out for some attention, for someone to give them a safe
boundary. And once they are shown that you mean business, they stop and
treat you with respect. But what I said was something that happens in
ps, in response to people talking about yelling or spanking, etc.
Personally, I think if there are behavior challenges, it is usually
because someone isn't being listened to, or allowed to just "be", or
given enough real interaction, or fatigue or hunger, or boredom. When I
get in the middle of a room and say, "Let's clean up together" or we go
in the kitchen and everyone does their part together to wash, dry, put
away, we have a great talk while we work together and it is fun.
Bonni
is what is so much better about being at home, you can take the time and
learn from a real conversation instead of resorting to mere crowd
control. However, if you are managing a group and give a child an
option, it makes it easier for all than just giving a demand, and if the
child says "neither," then they get to choose something else or discuss
something else with the leader of the group. When I talk about methods
for making kids mind, it is usually in response to a child who already is
being rebellious, not just opinionated. Some children will test your
boundaries deliberately. My children don't but I have had to be in
charge of other children who do, some by outright defiance. For example,
if you have a child who is breaking things, you had better show them that
they do not have the liberty to do that or they will continue to do so.
They are crying out for some attention, for someone to give them a safe
boundary. And once they are shown that you mean business, they stop and
treat you with respect. But what I said was something that happens in
ps, in response to people talking about yelling or spanking, etc.
Personally, I think if there are behavior challenges, it is usually
because someone isn't being listened to, or allowed to just "be", or
given enough real interaction, or fatigue or hunger, or boredom. When I
get in the middle of a room and say, "Let's clean up together" or we go
in the kitchen and everyone does their part together to wash, dry, put
away, we have a great talk while we work together and it is fun.
Bonni