SHOUTING
Dawn Scagnelli
May I calmly suggest that in many cases--at least where I live--shouting is
cultural/ethnic? My husband is half Italian, half Sicilian. Everything is always
loud--whether it is arguing or laughing and loving. They are passionate about
everything. And I find the same in the Puerto Ricans that live around here (and
there are many), though not so much in some of the other cultural groups, like
the Mexican and the Jewish. I grew up in a quiet household, of mixed European
descent, primarily, and that's just way things were. When I had my first
introduction to the Italian neighborhood in a business transaction, my boss and
his client, who are close friends, stood there shouting at each other, red in
the face, and ended with hugs and laughs. My husband can't understand how I stay
calm in an argument, and not raise my voice. It frustrates him. And I've learned
that his yelling just the way of many of his people.
I realize there certainly are plenty of people who don't fit this
description, but to blanketly assume that all people who shout are not in
control of themselves would be a gross generalization, and certainly not
true.
Renee
bach2yoga@...
We are students of words; we are shut up in schools, and colleges, and
recitation rooms, for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bag
of wind, a memory of words, and do not know a thing.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
"It is in fact nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of
instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry;
for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in
need
of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail."
--Albert Einstein
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cultural/ethnic? My husband is half Italian, half Sicilian. Everything is always
loud--whether it is arguing or laughing and loving. They are passionate about
everything. And I find the same in the Puerto Ricans that live around here (and
there are many), though not so much in some of the other cultural groups, like
the Mexican and the Jewish. I grew up in a quiet household, of mixed European
descent, primarily, and that's just way things were. When I had my first
introduction to the Italian neighborhood in a business transaction, my boss and
his client, who are close friends, stood there shouting at each other, red in
the face, and ended with hugs and laughs. My husband can't understand how I stay
calm in an argument, and not raise my voice. It frustrates him. And I've learned
that his yelling just the way of many of his people.
I realize there certainly are plenty of people who don't fit this
description, but to blanketly assume that all people who shout are not in
control of themselves would be a gross generalization, and certainly not
true.
Renee
bach2yoga@...
We are students of words; we are shut up in schools, and colleges, and
recitation rooms, for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bag
of wind, a memory of words, and do not know a thing.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
"It is in fact nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of
instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry;
for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in
need
of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail."
--Albert Einstein
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Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart
Dawn Scagnelli wrote:
anger. Oh, we yell with the best of 'em to be heard over noise or
whatever, but anger...well, we get quiet, and EXTREMELY polite. My son
reflects this too. Yesterday I stepped on his Voltron toy, breaking part
of it and he looks at me, flushed, eyes snapping and in a tiny, quiet
little voice "Mother, I would realy prefer you don't step on my toys and
break tem please. Do you think you could replace my green lion?" He
sounded just LIKE me. So we went shopping for a new Voltron today and
had a lovely unschooling lesson in comparative pricing and monetary
values.
Rachel Ravenhart
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>You certainly may! *G* My family is all Southern. We don't shout in
> May I calmly suggest that in many cases--at least where I
> live--shouting is
> cultural/ethnic?
anger. Oh, we yell with the best of 'em to be heard over noise or
whatever, but anger...well, we get quiet, and EXTREMELY polite. My son
reflects this too. Yesterday I stepped on his Voltron toy, breaking part
of it and he looks at me, flushed, eyes snapping and in a tiny, quiet
little voice "Mother, I would realy prefer you don't step on my toys and
break tem please. Do you think you could replace my green lion?" He
sounded just LIKE me. So we went shopping for a new Voltron today and
had a lovely unschooling lesson in comparative pricing and monetary
values.
Rachel Ravenhart
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Lynda
Oh, that brings back memories! My nanny was from Georgia and her son use to
say she had the loudest silences in the world! That was soooo true!!! I
just thought it was her and now I've learned it may be a southern thingy <g>
Lynda
say she had the loudest silences in the world! That was soooo true!!! I
just thought it was her and now I've learned it may be a southern thingy <g>
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart <ravenhart@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] SHOUTING
>
>
> Dawn Scagnelli wrote:
>
> >
> > May I calmly suggest that in many cases--at least where I
> > live--shouting is
> > cultural/ethnic?
>
> You certainly may! *G* My family is all Southern. We don't shout in
> anger. Oh, we yell with the best of 'em to be heard over noise or
> whatever, but anger...well, we get quiet, and EXTREMELY polite. My son
> reflects this too. Yesterday I stepped on his Voltron toy, breaking part
> of it and he looks at me, flushed, eyes snapping and in a tiny, quiet
> little voice "Mother, I would realy prefer you don't step on my toys and
> break tem please. Do you think you could replace my green lion?" He
> sounded just LIKE me. So we went shopping for a new Voltron today and
> had a lovely unschooling lesson in comparative pricing and monetary
> values.
>
> Rachel Ravenhart
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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