Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1385

Kasie

27 Aug 2001, at 10:32am

I am not sure how to post a message on here but here I go. Has anyone had unschooled kids that went to college? Did they feel they had the skills needed to do the work required? I have a 17 year old who will be starting a few music classes at our local city college. I just dont know if he will be prepared for the heavy work load expected of him.

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Art Supplies/tempra powder
From: jefferson academy
2. Re: child be off with you
From: jefferson academy
3. Re: Brain teasers
From: ddzimlew@...
4. Magnets?
From: lite2yu@...
5. Re: New Intro
From: "Mercedes"
6. Re: Haiku
From: "Mercedes"
7. Re: Speaking of School.....teachers
From: Sharon Rudd
8. Re: Re: Art Supplies
From: Sharon Rudd
9. Re: Magnets?
From: jefferson academy
10. Re: Writing and Handwriting... child's essay
From: Sharon Rudd
11. Re: Writing and Handwriting and my bad typing
From: Sharon Rudd
12. Re: Magnets?
From: jefferson academy
13. Re: Magnets?
From: "Castle Crawford"
14. Re: Boarding Schools Revisited....Hair
From: Sharon Rudd
15. Re: Digest Number 1381
From:
16. Re: Affluenza/Mary Ellen real post
From: megates@...
17. Re: Boarding Schools Revisited
From: SandraDodd@...
18. Haiku
From: ddzimlew@...
19. Karate/Re: Boarding Schools Revisited
From: Barb Eaton
20. Re: Karate/Re: Boarding Schools Revisited
From: ddzimlew@...
21. Re: Karate
From: SandraDodd@...
22. Re: Re: Art Supplies
From: "Mercedes"
23. Menu for dinners
From: A
24. Book
From: A
25. More on Dick King-Smith
From: A

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: jefferson academy
Subject: Re: Art Supplies/tempra powder

You can mix the tempra with glue - or they also make a
special medium-
try- http://www.discountschoolsupply.com
then you cut shapes out of construction paper, say a
butterfly, cut the inside out of the shape (so you
only have the outline of the butterfly and some
interior dividers to separate colors) put the shape on
a surface glue won't stick to (like plastic or foil)
fill the open areas with glue, let dry, and it is sort
of 'stained glass' looking. This works best with small
shapes. Discount school supply sells molds for this
too; and if you order their paper catalog it has lots
of suggestions for this sort of thing along the bottom
of most pages.
Michele

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: jefferson academy
Subject: Re: child be off with you

It really does amaze me how many people I know (who
wouldn't need the money if not for the 3 or 4
vacations a year (without the kids!), the house with a
3 room master bedroom suite, etc.) who put their
children in daycare 10 hours a day starting at 6 weeks
old. My neighbor has a 2yo grandson my 2yo loves to
play with, but she doesn't get much chance because
he's in daycare 10 hours a day M-F. I heard his
mother and grandmother in their pool the other day and
yelled over to ask if Elysian & Jay could play (here
or there) and they said he wasn't there, his mother
wanted a day off to go swimming so she had dropped him
at day care! Didn't it occur to them that maybe Jay
would have wanted a day to swim rather than spend
another 10 hour day in a daycare - and didn't she miss
him?
Michele

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:03:08 -0600
From: ddzimlew@...
Subject: Re: Brain teasers

# 7. Adam and Eve would have no navels.

Deb

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:18:28 EDT
From: lite2yu@...
Subject: Magnets?

I thought someone mentioned a web site that had all types of magnets for
sale. Could someone please re-post the link to it? Thanks a bunch.

lovemary

"Learning is not a product of teaching �� kids are born learning. They learn
how to walk, how to talk. They're basically little scientists. If we don't
stop that process, it will continue." - Grace Llewellyn

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:11:05 -0400
From: "Mercedes"
Subject: Re: New Intro

Twana, where is it you live? If my memory serves you're up near Tampa...
Well, it takes me, from Venice, about 60 minutes to get to the airport up
there....about 90 to (almost) Tarpon springs (there is a great weaving store
up there). Throw is some ignorant drivers, rainy weather, and make a stab
at your time... St. Pete takes about an hour too.

I will send you that umbrella info. ;)
~Mercy

-----Original Message-----
From: flsnshyn@...
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] New Intro

>Hello everyone,
>
>I suppose it's time to introduce myself. I am Twana
>and live in Central Florida (Bushnell) and I unschool
>my 5 and 8 year old sons. I have searched everywhere
>for a group that supports my beliefs of unschooling and
>have found nothing until this one. I have emailed some
>of the memeber in South FL and have gotten welcoming
>responses. I would like to come down sometime for some
>events, but need to find out how long it will take me
>to get there.
>
>Can someone please tell me why everytime I go to my
>email (unfortunately only about once a week) I have
>about 400 messages...uuuuggggg we have a slow
>connection. Help :)
>
>Mercedes...I am very interested in the umbrella you
>talk about...please email me more info. I am also
>interested in the Yearbooks as well as the Book It
>program, the equinox get together, and the Camping
>Trip...please let me know about them all.
>
>Well, now that I've written a book, it's nice to be a
>part of the unschooling family...
>
>Thanks so much
>Twana
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:30:55 -0400
From: "Mercedes"
Subject: Re: Haiku

What's the origin of Haiku? Can anyone tell me.

~Mercy

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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Current American Haiku

>Some of these (not all!!) break tradition on the "nature" part, although
>they are a tie in between the nature of computer errors and the nature of
>people.
>
>They're from Salon.com (not for children, that site, but these shouldn't
>hurt).
>
>W I N N E R S:
>Three things are certain:
>Death, taxes, and lost data.
>Guess which has occurred.
>
>-- David Dixon
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Everything is gone;
>Your life's work has been destroyed.
>Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
>
>-- David Carlson
>
>
>H O N O R A B L E __M E N T I O N S:
>I'm sorry, there's -- um --
>insufficient -- what's-it-called?
>The term eludes me ...
>
>-- Owen Mathews
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Windows NT crashed.
>I am the Blue Screen of Death.
>No one hears your screams.
>
>-- Peter Rothman
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Seeing my great fault
>Through darkening blue windows
>I begin again
>
>-- Chris Walsh
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The code was willing,
>It considered your request,
>But the chips were weak.
>
>-- Barry L. Brumitt
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Printer not ready.
>Could be a fatal error.
>Have a pen handy?
>
>-- Pat Davis
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>A file that big?
>It might be very useful.
>But now it is gone.
>
>-- David J. Liszewski
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Errors have occurred.
>We won't tell you where or why.
>Lazy programmers.
>
>-- Charlie Gibbs
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Server's poor response
>Not quick enough for browser.
>Timed out, plum blossom.
>
>-- Rik Jespersen
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Chaos reigns within.
>Reflect, repent, and reboot.
>Order shall return.
>
>-- Suzie Wagner
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Login incorrect.
>Only perfect spellers may
>enter this system.
>
>-- Jason Axley
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>This site has been moved.
>We'd tell you where, but then we'd
>have to delete you.
>
>-- Charles Matthews
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>wind catches lily
>scatt'ring petals to the wind:
>segmentation fault
>
>-- Nick Sweeney
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>ABORTED effort:
>Close all that you have.
>You ask way too much.
>
>-- Mike Hagler
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>First snow, then silence.
>This thousand dollar screen dies
>so beautifully.
>
>-- Simon Firth
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>With searching comes loss
>and the presence of absence:
>"My Novel" not found.
>
>-- Howard Korder
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The Tao that is seen
>Is not the true Tao, until
>You bring fresh toner.
>
>-- Bill Torcaso
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The Web site you seek
>cannot be located but
>endless others exist
>
>-- Joy Rothke
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Stay the patient course
>Of little worth is your ire
>The network is down
>
>-- David Ansel
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>A crash reduces
>your expensive computer
>to a simple stone.
>
>-- James Lopez
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>There is a chasm
>of carbon and silicon
>the software can't bridge
>
>-- Rahul Sonnad
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Yesterday it worked
>Today it is not working
>Windows is like that
>
>-- Margaret Segall
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>To have no errors
>Would be life without meaning
>No struggle, no joy
>
>-- Brian M. Porter
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>You step in the stream,
>but the water has moved on.
>This page is not here.
>
>-- Cass Whittington
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>No keyboard present
>Hit F1 to continue
>Zen engineering?
>
>-- Jim Griffith
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Hal, open the file
>Hal, open the damn file, Hal
>open the, please Hal
>
>-- Jennifer Jo Lane
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Out of memory.
>We wish to hold the whole sky,
>But we never will.
>
>-- Francis Heaney
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Having been erased,
>The document you're seeking
>Must now be retyped.
>
>-- Judy Birmingham
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The ten thousand things
>How long do any persist?
>Netscape, too, has gone.
>
>-- Jason Willoughby
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Rather than a beep
>Or a rude error message,
>These words: "File not found."
>
>-- Len Dvorkin
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Serious error.
>All shortcuts have disappeared.
>Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
>
>-- Ian Hughes
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sharon Rudd
Subject: Re: Speaking of School.....teachers

You were the best you could be...and still are. What
more is there?
Sharon

--- SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 8/25/01 8:11:23 AM,
> NumoAstro@... writes:
>
> << Seems I found my natural way and talents
> without the help of school. >>
>
> In spite of school.
>
> Stories of what hurt children in school are truly,
> truly sad. As a student I
> was getting the gold stars other kids would loved to
> have had, and soon I no
> longer cared about them, and they got me not one
> speck of joy, but if some of
> the other kids had gotten them their mother would
> have made them a special
> dinner and they would have gone to sleep smiling.
> And as a teacher I
> inevitably contributed to those kinds of failure
> moments. Usually I tried to
> do what I knew was right, but people get tired and
> grouchy, and there are
> grades required by the state, and some people sleep
> through and get A's and
> some try hard and get C's.
>
> I put up an apology to my students. I have no idea
> if any of them will ever
> find it.
>
> Sandra
>
> "Everything counts."
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sharon Rudd
Subject: Re: Re: Art Supplies

We use everything. Lint from the dryer (when I
actually use it...after a week or two of rain),
leaves, grass, hay, flowers (pressed,dried, copied)
feathers,pine needles, palmetoes,beads (made from
everything....even plastic drinking straws and
washers...anything with a hole in it, or that you can
put a hole in, shells, rags (quilts, rugs, doll
clothes, toy animals, pockets, bags, on and on),
recycled paper (free note pads...just cut off the
printed part, paper mache', weaving, drawing, make cut
out shapes from, save really nice pictures from 3rd
class mail) old boxes, milk jugs, all bottles, most
cans, rocks, dirt, mud, clay,charcole, DH tobacco
lids.....And do you belive we STILL have trash to
dump!!! No food type trash though! That all gets used
for the critters...then composted...one way or
another.

Have Fun!! Art supplies are the only thing that are
cheap!! It really is rewarding to make something from
nothing...beauty from chaos...

Sharon

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: jefferson academy
Subject: Re: Magnets?

> I thought someone mentioned a web site that had all
> types of magnets for
> sale. Could someone please re-post the link to it?

http://wwww.discountschoolsupply.com has some

http://www.magnetsource.com has lots - but $30 min.

Michele

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:19:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sharon Rudd
Subject: Re: Writing and Handwriting... child's essay

Dear Kathryn.....please do let us (me) read his
artricles. They sound really worth while. What a
wonderful son.

Thanks, Sharon

--- KathrynJB@... wrote:

> The next thing he wrote aside from poetry was an
> impassioned article for the
> church newsletter. The church had serious problems
> with mice, and an
> exterminator had to be called. He heard about it and
> was horrified at the
> slaughter of literally hundreds of mice, and wrote a
> wonderful article for
> the newsletter asking that people be careful about
> leaving food around to
> avoid a similar fate.
>
> The next thing he wrote was an incredible essay
> (that he turned into a sermon
> for our church's Children's Sunday) about
> Vegetarianism as a spiritual
> practice. (If anyone wants to read it, I am sure I
> could get permission to
> share it. It's really impressive!)

> Kathryn

>
> > I thought someone mentioned a web site that had
> all
> > types of magnets for
> > sale. Could someone please re-post the link to it?
>
> http://wwww.discountschoolsupply.com has some
>
> http://www.magnetsource.com has lots - but $30
> min.
>
> Michele

oops discount is:
http://www.discountschoolsupplies.com
sorry about that

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From: jefferson academy
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Magnets?

--- jefferson academy
wrote:
>
> > I thought someone mentioned a web site that had
> all
> > types of magnets for
> > sale. Could someone please re-post the link to it?
>
> http://wwww.discountschoolsupply.com has some
>
> http://www.magnetsource.com has lots - but $30
> min.
>
> Michele

oops discount is:
http://www.discountschoolsupplies.com
sorry about that
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sharon Rudd
Subject: Re: Boarding Schools Revisited....Hair

--- Lynda wrote:
documents
> that the first thing that
> happened to the children was that their hair was
> cut!
> Lynda

Many schools (public and private) STILL have "hair
length codes". Boys hair must be above the collar and
above the ears. Uniforms are becoming more popular,
too.

Sharon

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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:06:35 -0600
From:
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1381

To be honest this was just an example. We started homeschooling after both had been taught, rather painfully, how to do these calculations by the pen and paper method.

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From: RValvo7626@...
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1381

In a message dated 8/24/01 6:48:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Hey mom 6% of $1.00 is $.06. So if I want to buy a Lego set for $10.00 I
will need $.60 more for tax. Now I only have $8.75 leftover from my allowance
so I will need $1.85 more. Since grandma will pay me $.50 per day to take out
her trash I'll have enough saved up by Tuesday. Will you take me to Toys-R-Us
on Tuesday?" >>

WOW! I can only do percentages by first doing 10% then adding by 10s or
5s. As in this shirt is 25%off. I do 10%first then double it then add half of
the 10% to make 25%. Geez. But it gets me through nearly everything I need
to. (I always tip 20% and round up). :o)

NICKI~

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:56:24 -0700
From: megates@...
Subject: Re: Affluenza/Mary Ellen real post

I also wanted to clarify that the quote from the book was not from the
authors, though it's too bad they felt the need to include the part about
mothers. They could have left that part out. I've thought about writing
a note to the authors to point out that the passage quoted sounded
exactly like school! Other than that, I think it is a book worth
reading. It was put together after doing two specials on the subject on
PBS.
Mary Ellen

snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The school tried to potray my as an overprotective
controlling mother.

Not!!!!!!!

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:15:22 EDT
From: SandraDodd@...
Subject: Re: Boarding Schools Revisited

In a message dated 8/26/01 12:31:20 AM, lurine@... writes:

<< When American Indians were forced to attend federally operated boarding
schools beginning in 1879, their long hair was lopped off immediately upon
arrival as part of the effort to "civilize" the natives. >>

Same thing in Okinawa to "modernize"--and Samurai descendents were not to
have their hair cut. The founder of the karate school Kirby goes to wrote an
autobiography, and confesses without much joy to having physically subdued
boys so their hair could be cut off.

I don't think in either case they cut the girls' hair, but I could be wrong
about the Indian boarding schools and female-haircuts, and I don't think
there were girls in the Okinawan schools.

Sandra

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:11:40 -0600
From: ddzimlew@...
Subject: Haiku

> What's the origin of Haiku? Can anyone tell me.
>Mercy

Haiku is Japanese poetry and is very old - derived from a more
fundamental form of poetry called Tanka. Tanka is traditionally thirty
one syllables ( 5-7-5-7-7 )

Some very famous Japanese Haiku poets are Matsuo Basho (1644-1694? )
Taniguchi Buson (1715-1783 ) and Issa (1762-1826 ) There is another , a
student of Basho , named Kikaku about whom I know nothing: and Masaoka
Shiki a later Haiku poet whose works I have never read.
There is a book called " A Few Flies and I ; Haiku by Issa " by Jean
Merrill.

An example of Haiku by Issa

If you are tender to them
The young sparrows
Will poop on you.

No, I didn't just make that up. If it doesn't follow the 5-7-5 pattern
it is because of the translation from the original Japanese.

Deb L

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:49:33 -0400
From: Barb Eaton
Subject: Karate/Re: Boarding Schools Revisited

I want to give my boys karate classes for christmas. How did all of you
find good teachers/ schools? What kind of questions did you ask? What should
I look for? And last but not least, how can I present it as a surprise?
Should I keep it secret or have them check thing out and chose??

TIA
Barb E

on 8/26/01 3:15 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/26/01 12:31:20 AM, lurine@... writes:
The founder of the karate school Kirby goes to wrote an
> autobiography, and confesses without much joy to having physically subdued
> boys so their hair could be cut off.
>
>
> Sandra

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:20:10 -0600
From: ddzimlew@...
Subject: Re: Karate/Re: Boarding Schools Revisited

My son had asked for karate lessons a year before we found the
instructor we liked.
We went into it completely ignorant of martial arts. We were lucky to
find such an amazing instructor.
You should attend a few classes without your boys, if you can. Watch to
see if the older kids use self control when sparring with the younger
kids. Do they have protective gear for the little kids. Does the
instructor stress the point of self control? Is one of the rules of the
dojo respect? How do the students treat each other? How is the
instructor with the other kids your boy's ages? Do girls and boys spar
each other? If not there may be and unconscious ( or not ) feeling by
the instructor that girls are not able to fight as well as boys, etc. and
do you want your boys to get this message? Your observations will tell
you more than I ever could. If you feel good about the teacher and feel
he/she genuinely likes and respects the kids, then he/she's the one.

The goal of martial arts, The harmonious development and eventual
perfection of human character.

I was worried that my unschooling kid would have a hard time with a
regimented class.
He didn't . The hardest thing for him to remember was to raise his hand
before asking or answering a question, and having to ask to use the
restroom.

Deb L

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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:54:26 EDT
From: SandraDodd@...
Subject: Re: Karate

It's possible that the school wouldn't take kids who hadn't willingly visited
and signed up themselves. Where Kirby goes, the kids have to sign an
agreement concerning behavior and intent. They won't take a child against
the child's will (so they wouldn't be able to sell gift memberships to
not-yet-members/students).

Some schools stress tournaments and competitions and others don't.

Some are more interested in character building than in butt-kicking.

I would say without even leaving the house you could read the ads in the
yellow pages--how do the schools present themselves? You'll note differences
right away.

You could look on line for overall descriptions of the philosophies of
different associations. Many times local schools are affiliated with one or
another national or international association.

If there is a local martial-arts supply house in town (like a store that
sells gear for the different sports) you might ask the purveyor (who is
likely also a martial arts teacher) about the differences in the types of
martial arts.

One thing you could do as it's a gift would be to promise to pay for lessons
and a good uniform. In some schools you can get the basic cheap uniform
which will be cotton/polyester blend, or you can opt for a better all-cotton
uniform.

Sandra Dodd

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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:05:24 -0400
From: "Mercedes"
Subject: Re: Re: Art Supplies

Right on Sharon, I like your list!

Mercy
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Rudd
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Art Supplies

>We use everything. Lint from the dryer (when I
>actually use it...after a week or two of rain),
>leaves, grass, hay, flowers (pressed,dried, copied)
>feathers,pine needles, palmetoes,beads (made from
>everything....even plastic drinking straws and
>washers...anything with a hole in it, or that you can
>put a hole in, shells, rags (quilts, rugs, doll
>clothes, toy animals, pockets, bags, on and on),
>recycled paper (free note pads...just cut off the
>printed part, paper mache', weaving, drawing, make cut
>out shapes from, save really nice pictures from 3rd
>class mail) old boxes, milk jugs, all bottles, most
>cans, rocks, dirt, mud, clay,charcole, DH tobacco
>lids.....And do you belive we STILL have trash to
>dump!!! No food type trash though! That all gets used
>for the critters...then composted...one way or
>another.
>
>Have Fun!! Art supplies are the only thing that are
>cheap!! It really is rewarding to make something from
>nothing...beauty from chaos...
>
>Sharon
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:18:54 -0400
From: A
Subject: Menu for dinners

Hi all you Mommies out there!
Every week I make a menu for dinners for the week and then make my
grocery list. (don't think I'm miss organization, 'cause I'm very far
from it) Anyway......each Sunday night I am trying to finish filling in
the menu with something interesting and that my kids will eat.
So.....(to make a long story short) I keep thinking...I'm sure there
are other Mom's and Dad's out there struggling with sort of the same
dilemma.
I'd love to compile recipes shared by all of us of our most successful
recipes, meals, snacks ect.... It would be nice to maybe add this to
the unschooling site, but maybe this is really not unschooling, but then
what isn't. Or, I would just like to compile a recipe book of
favorites.
Would anyone like to share recipes? Maybe an email list of recipe
sharers....easys, quick recipes that is.... :)
I mean we have to spend hours making legos ya know.... ;)
Ann

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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:23:29 -0400
From: A
Subject: Book

I don't know how many of you have read Dick King-Smith, but we love him
here. We read Babe, and loved it much more than the movie (which was
too sad and scary for my kids).
We just finished reading "Sophie's Snail", and really loved it. Sophie
is wonderful. If you love nature and exploring the garden, and kids and
their honest way of being, you will love Sophie.
Just wanted to share.....
We also love Mr. Ape. This was wonderful.
Ann

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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:26:01 -0400
From: A
Subject: More on Dick King-Smith

Oh I forgot....I'm always doing that..... ha, ha
Spider Sparrow by Dick King-Smith is soooo wonderful. We listened to it
on tape. The kids and I loved it! Sad at the end, but my kids are good
at sad parts in books, not in the movies.
An(who looses her mind and memory regularly)
Ann

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