Re: sensitive kids
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In a message dated 8/12/01 12:29:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
would last an hour or more, with her hypervenilating and sobbing "I can't
stop, help me stop." They often occured several times a day. Oh, how
stressful! She's six now, and I still have to keep a close eye to know when
she's overloaded. She's never been diagnosed with anything, and I prefer it
that way, but my suspicions are that she has Sensory Integration Disorder.
We've removed dyes, etc., added cherry plum bach flower essences, etc., and
they all helped, but didn't stop them. We've practiced breathing techniques
and everything.
And it isn't just the bad stuff--even the good stuff--she's either flying
high or sinking low. Has difficulty staying on an even keel--very different
from my 2 year old.
Renee
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[email protected] writes:
> From my pediatrician and my research on his situation I followed the adviceMy daughter has always been very intense like this. Her daily "tantrums"
> of giving him things to do, to sit down with him and let him figure things
> out, create things, read, etc, give him the extra stimulation he needs. And
> as for his intensity, that will always be there. That extra sensitivity to
> anything, and he just needs guidance on how to ground himself and come back
> after something sets him off, and hopefully he'll learn as he grows to
> control himself better. Now I just hold him a lot, as he screams and kicks,
> until the wave wears out and he is finally calm and thankful I was there to
>
would last an hour or more, with her hypervenilating and sobbing "I can't
stop, help me stop." They often occured several times a day. Oh, how
stressful! She's six now, and I still have to keep a close eye to know when
she's overloaded. She's never been diagnosed with anything, and I prefer it
that way, but my suspicions are that she has Sensory Integration Disorder.
We've removed dyes, etc., added cherry plum bach flower essences, etc., and
they all helped, but didn't stop them. We've practiced breathing techniques
and everything.
And it isn't just the bad stuff--even the good stuff--she's either flying
high or sinking low. Has difficulty staying on an even keel--very different
from my 2 year old.
Renee
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Tia Leschke
>My granddaughter is like this. Her parents tried all kinds of things
>My daughter has always been very intense like this. Her daily "tantrums"
>would last an hour or more, with her hypervenilating and sobbing "I can't
>stop, help me stop." They often occured several times a day. Oh, how
>stressful! She's six now, and I still have to keep a close eye to know when
>she's overloaded. She's never been diagnosed with anything, and I prefer it
>that way, but my suspicions are that she has Sensory Integration Disorder.
>We've removed dyes, etc., added cherry plum bach flower essences, etc., and
>they all helped, but didn't stop them. We've practiced breathing techniques
>and everything.
>And it isn't just the bad stuff--even the good stuff--she's either flying
>high or sinking low. Has difficulty staying on an even keel--very different
>from my 2 year old.
including removing a lot of foods a naturopath said she was allergic
to. Nothing really helped, though changing their approach to her tantrums
helped some of the time. My daughter also thinks she probably has sensory
integration disorder or is possibly bipolar. They've recently started her
on a supplement from a Canadian company called True
Hope http://www.truehope.com/misc%20files/aboutus.htm
I haven't checked them out and I have absolutely no connection to them
other than my daughter raving about how much they've helped. I don't think
Skye has had a real-flip out since she started on them a couple of weeks
ago. She still has to learn new habits of reacting to frustration, etc.
but they've been able to talk her out of every flip-out that's
threatened. This is something they only rarely could do before she started
the supplements, and her flip-outs were at least daily before.
Tia
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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In a message dated 8/16/01 5:54:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
stopped napping at 15 months. She's 6 1/2, is up til 10 or 10:30, often after
me, and up at 6 or 6:30. And believe it or not, we shoot for 8 as a bedtime.
It just takes that long! The last couple of months I've been just letting her
go to bed most nights when she wants, and a couple nights a week she'll go
earlier, by and hour or hour and a half or so. That seems to be working
better. And up until this past year, she still woke every night. Now, not at
all, unless she has a bad dream. Chiropractics helped with that. She had leg
pains behind her knees every night for years, and the pediatrician kept
telling me they were activity pains, because she is so highly active (and
that's an understatement!!!), or growing pains.We did arnica cream, heating
pads, midnight hot baths, massage, children's Tylenol--nightly!!! I asked to
refer her to a chiro, he said no way, only an orthopedic specialist. So I
changed peds, got a referral, and after 4 sessions, she has had no pain
whatsoever. That was in April. I've heard that adjustments can make a
difference for some kids with ADD and so forth, too.
I think she will always be a challenge for me. We spent last night, 9:30 to
12:30 in the ER with my hubby (he's fine), and DS was wonderful. Didn't fuss
at all. She was non-stop complaining, fussing, etc.
Oh, the Cherry Plum is for violent temper tantrums. It's horrid tasting. I
think the shock of how horrid it tastes quiets her down, LOL. But we've done
breath work, visualizations when she is not upset so she'll have a place to
retreat to when she is upset. But I think the two things that help calm her
down from tantrums more than anything are: nature and water. The bath, or
swimming, depending on the season--water is a great restorative. And we have
a lovely property, with a stream, all kinds of wildlife, hundreds of flowers,
lots of frogs (she spends a lot of time with the frogs. She even talks to
them. Can't tell them apart!!) And sending her outside for a nature walk
usually seems very healing for her.
Reminds me of a lady I know, Linda Runyon. Not sure if anyone's ever heard of
her? She is a survivalist. She has been written about in several major mags
like People, and the NY Times, I think? She has a son (grown now) who was
diagnosed severely autistic, and 6 doctors her in NJ told her to
institutionalize him. She couldn't accept that, so she moved west (she's back
east now) and raised him "off the land". She cooked outside in the snow
because her son couldn't handle it inside. She had no electricity, etc. They
foraged for their food. They ate things that grew naturally, like dandelion,
wood sorrel, plantain, roses, wild lettuce, etc. She is a well published
author now about this subject. Her son is now an internation fashion
designer, and Neiman Marcus recently bought his entire collection. He credits
his "recovery" with living so close to nature.
BTW, We tried the cal-Mag, couldn't get her to take it.
One of her favorite bedtime rituals now is hot tea, her choice of flavor (she
usually picks Japanese tea or chamomile). The ritual thing is really
important for her, too. She does better if she knows what to expect.
Renee
~2000 B.C. - Here, eat this root.
1000 A.D. - That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer.
1850 A.D. - That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion.
1940 A.D. - That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill.
1985 A.D. - That pill is ineffective. Here, take this antibiotic.
2000 A.D. - That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root. ~
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[email protected] writes:
> This is my dd. We removed dyes from her diet too. We also limit sugar butSounds like your daughter is very similar to mine. Oh that sleep thing...she
> not too much b/c then it becomes something to sneak. What does the cherry
> plum bach flower do for your dd. I use rescue remedy for somehtings. I also
> tried Calm Child,no difference. I also tried childrens Valerian for
> bedtime(big troubles calming down to go to sleep) never worked. I would
> like
> her to take liquid Cal/Mag but the battle could be worse than the benefits.
>
>
stopped napping at 15 months. She's 6 1/2, is up til 10 or 10:30, often after
me, and up at 6 or 6:30. And believe it or not, we shoot for 8 as a bedtime.
It just takes that long! The last couple of months I've been just letting her
go to bed most nights when she wants, and a couple nights a week she'll go
earlier, by and hour or hour and a half or so. That seems to be working
better. And up until this past year, she still woke every night. Now, not at
all, unless she has a bad dream. Chiropractics helped with that. She had leg
pains behind her knees every night for years, and the pediatrician kept
telling me they were activity pains, because she is so highly active (and
that's an understatement!!!), or growing pains.We did arnica cream, heating
pads, midnight hot baths, massage, children's Tylenol--nightly!!! I asked to
refer her to a chiro, he said no way, only an orthopedic specialist. So I
changed peds, got a referral, and after 4 sessions, she has had no pain
whatsoever. That was in April. I've heard that adjustments can make a
difference for some kids with ADD and so forth, too.
I think she will always be a challenge for me. We spent last night, 9:30 to
12:30 in the ER with my hubby (he's fine), and DS was wonderful. Didn't fuss
at all. She was non-stop complaining, fussing, etc.
Oh, the Cherry Plum is for violent temper tantrums. It's horrid tasting. I
think the shock of how horrid it tastes quiets her down, LOL. But we've done
breath work, visualizations when she is not upset so she'll have a place to
retreat to when she is upset. But I think the two things that help calm her
down from tantrums more than anything are: nature and water. The bath, or
swimming, depending on the season--water is a great restorative. And we have
a lovely property, with a stream, all kinds of wildlife, hundreds of flowers,
lots of frogs (she spends a lot of time with the frogs. She even talks to
them. Can't tell them apart!!) And sending her outside for a nature walk
usually seems very healing for her.
Reminds me of a lady I know, Linda Runyon. Not sure if anyone's ever heard of
her? She is a survivalist. She has been written about in several major mags
like People, and the NY Times, I think? She has a son (grown now) who was
diagnosed severely autistic, and 6 doctors her in NJ told her to
institutionalize him. She couldn't accept that, so she moved west (she's back
east now) and raised him "off the land". She cooked outside in the snow
because her son couldn't handle it inside. She had no electricity, etc. They
foraged for their food. They ate things that grew naturally, like dandelion,
wood sorrel, plantain, roses, wild lettuce, etc. She is a well published
author now about this subject. Her son is now an internation fashion
designer, and Neiman Marcus recently bought his entire collection. He credits
his "recovery" with living so close to nature.
BTW, We tried the cal-Mag, couldn't get her to take it.
One of her favorite bedtime rituals now is hot tea, her choice of flavor (she
usually picks Japanese tea or chamomile). The ritual thing is really
important for her, too. She does better if she knows what to expect.
Renee
~2000 B.C. - Here, eat this root.
1000 A.D. - That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer.
1850 A.D. - That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion.
1940 A.D. - That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill.
1985 A.D. - That pill is ineffective. Here, take this antibiotic.
2000 A.D. - That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root. ~
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[email protected]
In a message dated 8/16/01 6:48:06 AM, bach2yoga@... writes:
<< She cooked outside in the snow
because her son couldn't handle it inside. >>
My cousin my age who homebirthed five kids and lived in the country had a
wood stove she would put outside under the cottonwood trees in the summer
because it was too hot to cook inside, and in the winter they'd bring it back
in so it would heat the house.
Not related, but just a note that cooking outside isn't totally unheard of.
<g>
People here make bread in hornos (ORnos) in summer sometimes , an adobe oven
of sorts. You build the fire in it and then scrape it out and put the bread
in.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
<< She cooked outside in the snow
because her son couldn't handle it inside. >>
My cousin my age who homebirthed five kids and lived in the country had a
wood stove she would put outside under the cottonwood trees in the summer
because it was too hot to cook inside, and in the winter they'd bring it back
in so it would heat the house.
Not related, but just a note that cooking outside isn't totally unheard of.
<g>
People here make bread in hornos (ORnos) in summer sometimes , an adobe oven
of sorts. You build the fire in it and then scrape it out and put the bread
in.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd