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FYI

Lynda
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Re: Mandatory AIDS vaccinations


> Report Predicts Massive Resistance to Mandatory AIDS Vaccine
> Wes Vernon
> Thursday, June 21, 2001
> WASHINGTON - A new report predicts massive resistance to a mandatory AIDS
> vaccine is coming in the U.S. in the next few years.
> Millions of parents would refuse to have their children vaccinated by any
> variation of an HIV/AIDS shot, the Committee to Protect Medical Freedom
> said at a news conference Wednesday.
>
> The paper, titled "If AIDS doesn't kill you, the AIDS vaccine will,"
> declared an AIDS vaccine would have HIV in it.
>
> Among those supporting the findings of the study was Dr. Howard Umovitz, a
> prominent member of a group of scientists calling for an HIV/AIDS vaccine
> moratorium.
>
> Jim Turner, a Washington attorney and expert on the swine flu vaccine
> scandal of the 1970s, lent his support, as did Barbara Lee Fisher,
> co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center.
> Redmond Handy, an opponent of the military's mandatory anthrax vaccination
> program, also warned of what he sees as the dangers of rushing into a
> mandatory AIDS vaccine program.
>
> The thrust of the report, written by Clifford Kincaid, is that there's big
> money in rushing the an AIDS vaccine to market, some of it tied up in
> conflict-of-interest questions involving the promoters and their
> connections with companies that stand to benefit. More to the point, he
> says, there are indications that the vaccine, possibly to be administered
> to 11- to 12-year-old children, or perhaps earlier, contains a risk of
> inflicting the very disease it is intended to prevent.
>
> Promoting the idea of a mandatory AIDS vaccine is United Nations
> Secretary-General Kofi Anan, along with high-tech magnate Bill Gates.
> Kincaid challenges them to take the vaccine themselves if they are so
> certain it is safe.
>
> Some of the discussions on radio talk shows around the country indicate
> "the U.S. could witness massive civil disobedience against a massive
> mandatory HIV/AIDS vaccine. Parents want to know what is in the vaccine,
> and they should be told that it is a form of HIV that the government says
> can cause AIDS," the report alleges.
>
> Jon Cohen, author of "Deep Denial," published by the New York Academy of
> Sciences earlier this year, is quoted as saying that "medical products
> sometimes do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, causing illness
> rather than alleviating it. Such risk, of course, is common to all drugs,
> but at least many sick patients accept that they would have fared poorly
> even without the ill-fated drug treatment. Vaccines, in contrast, are
> administered to [healthy] people, often children."
>
> Which means the vaccine would be targeted at those without AIDS. Further,
> AIDS is most likely to be avoided by choosing a healthful way of life. The
> study asks: Does it make sense to subject innocent children or AIDS-free
> military personnel to a risk that could be greater than the that of the
> disease, depending on the habits chosen as they go forward in their lives?
>
> Polio and smallpox, for example, could strike without warning. The public
> has been warned about AIDS and how to avoid it.
>
> In anticipation of Wednesday's news conference, various health agencies
> have told Gannett News Service there was no plan to make the AIDS vaccine
> mandatory for any American.
>
> But Kincaid, the director of the Committee to Protect American Freedoms,
> says the proof is available at the Web site of the U.S. Military HIV
> research program, where it is openly stated that AIDS vaccines under
> development will be "licensed and used to protect military personnel."
> These shots are not voluntary in the military service, he says.
>
> Kincaid added that Dr. Deborah Brix, who runs the program, could have made
> the denial in the 30 days since he asked her in writing a series of
> questions about the program. His question included: "Who made the decision
> to use and mandate this vaccine on U.S. military personnel?"
>
> Barbara Loe Fisher, co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center,
> reports that a member of the federal committee that recommends vaccine for
> children had said that an AIDS vaccine would be tested and then forced on
> all 12-year-old children.
>
> Neal Halsey, M.D., chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)
> Committee on Infectious Diseases, reminded HIV vaccine researchers and
> developers at a meeting in February 1997 of an advisory committee of the
> federal Centers for Disease Control that CDC plans to target 11- to
> 12-year-old children for "universal application" of an HIV vaccine.
>
> The Kincaid study says "babies are being used as guinea pigs now." The
> National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, under the auspices
> of the federal Department of Health and Human Services, is sponsoring an
> HIV vaccine test on babies born to HIV-infected women.
>
> A spokesman for this program, where mothers have no ability to provide
> informed written consent, has admitted that "a small percentage of our
> trial applicants have become infected" and now have access to "the best
> medical care available."
>
> One cannot get any details as to who the "guinea pigs" are. Have they
> chosen to remain anonymous? "Or are their identities being concealed
> because they are dead or dying?"
>
> Dr. Umovitz, a member of a group of scientists calling for a moratorium on
> all HIV vaccine research, says coverage of "promising" vaccines is
> extremely misleading, and those being tested so far appear harmful and
> dangerous. Some undergoing trials increase the likelihood of infection and
> accelerate the disease. In a paper, he quotes Dr. Albert Sabin as saying
> the available data "provide no basis for testing any HIV vaccine in
> humans."
>
> U.N. leader Anan and Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has engaged in extensive
> research on AIDS, think an AIDS vaccine just may be a "secret weapon."
>
> But the Committee to Protect Medical Freedom concludes: "What if the
> theory driving the vaccine research is scientifically bankrupt? .. What if
> their war on AIDS proves to be a no-win war in which millions more die?
> Then the world will move on to the next crisis and the same people may
> still be in charge."

Sharon Rudd

Dear Lynda

You are so well informed! We, or at least I, would
like to read your source(s) first hand. If this is too
intrusive, please post to me off list. I've let many
subscriptions lapse, but it seems it is about time to
renew some. What do you recommend? Does anyone else
have suggestions for ways to keep aware of what is
REALLY happening? besides just "reading between the
lines" and subjectively interpreting everything.

11 and 12 year olds don't need to be vaccinated for
AIDS. Yup, civil disobedience might be the ticket. How
tiresome. Phooey! If it's not one thing, it some
other.

What is the correct quote of the paraphrase "All that
is required for the triumph of evil is that the good
do nothing."?

Sharon beware Kilroy is Watching

--- Lynda <lurine@...> wrote:
> FYI


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I subscribe to a bunch of online news sources and belong to several lists
that do news searches. Also I read lots of newspapers and magazines and my
cousin has a clipping service clip articles on subjects from native rights
issues to liberatarian issues and she is kind enough to share those with me.

Here's the link for the above referenced one:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/20/152903.shtml

And along those same lines: . Because children are leary of needles they
are now working on "needless" vaccines which they predict will be available
within the next 3 to 10 years. 1) A liquid flu "shot" that is swabbed on
the skin. 2) Genetically engineered tomatoes and apples that grow a common
virus vaccine inside them--object so your kids will "drink" their vaccines
in fruit or vegetable juice. 3) Special shampoos that immunize against
things like rabies and malaria. They are absorbed through your scalp.
Quotes from De-chu C. Tang, PhD and Schuyler Korban, PhD.

Lynda, who is glad she buys only organic foods, buys no GMOs and grows as
many fruits and veggies as she can herself!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Rudd" <bearspawprint@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Big Brother is it again!


> Dear Lynda
>
> You are so well informed! We, or at least I, would
> like to read your source(s) first hand. If this is too
> intrusive, please post to me off list. I've let many
> subscriptions lapse, but it seems it is about time to
> renew some. What do you recommend? Does anyone else
> have suggestions for ways to keep aware of what is
> REALLY happening? besides just "reading between the
> lines" and subjectively interpreting everything.
>
> 11 and 12 year olds don't need to be vaccinated for
> AIDS. Yup, civil disobedience might be the ticket. How
> tiresome. Phooey! If it's not one thing, it some
> other.
>
> What is the correct quote of the paraphrase "All that
> is required for the triumph of evil is that the good
> do nothing."?
>
> Sharon beware Kilroy is Watching
>
> --- Lynda <lurine@...> wrote:
> > FYI
>
>
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LisaBugg

>
> And along those same lines: . Because children are leary of needles they
> are now working on "needless" vaccines which they predict will be
available
> within the next 3 to 10 years.

But wait, I can remember getting shots without needles in the 70's. It was
an air gun like thing. Hurt too. I take it these didn't work very well??

Lisa

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In a message dated 06/28/2001 12:25:41 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
LisaBugg@... writes:


> Because children are leary of needles they
> > are now working on "needless" vaccines which they predict will be
> available
> > within the next 3 to 10 years.
>
>

Shouldn't this be needleless (or maybe needless is correct!)??

Nance



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

LisaBugg

> >
>
> Shouldn't this be needleless (or maybe needless is correct!)??
>
> Nance
>
>
>
ROTF, see what invented spelling can do for you. It can give you truth even
when you aren't looking for it. <VBG>

Okay, my contacts are now in. This should help matters.


Lisa

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In a message dated 06/28/2001 1:39:21 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
LisaBugg@... writes:


> > Shouldn't this be needleless (or maybe needless is correct!)??
> >
> > Nance
> >
> >
> >
> ROTF, see what invented spelling can do for you. It can give you truth even
> when you aren't looking for it. <VBG>
>
> Okay, my contacts are now in. This should help matters.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>

Oh -- I thought you were quoting someone/something else -- that's how it
looked in my email (pre-coffee anyway!).

At any rate, I think it came out right the first time!

Nance



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Lynda

Caused extensive bruising and something else, I don't remember what. They
still use them for some multiple shots for adults but generally don't use
them on children anymore.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "LisaBugg" <LisaBugg@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Big Brother is it again!


>
>
> >
> > And along those same lines: . Because children are leary of needles
they
> > are now working on "needless" vaccines which they predict will be
> available
> > within the next 3 to 10 years.
>
> But wait, I can remember getting shots without needles in the 70's. It
was
> an air gun like thing. Hurt too. I take it these didn't work very well??
>
> Lisa
>
>
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Sharon Rudd

What is a GMO?

Sharon

ps I don't think Big Brother ever even took a rest......!!

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Genetically modified or franken seeds. Plants they have altered in one way
or another.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Rudd" <bearspawprint@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Big Brother is it again!


> What is a GMO?
>
> Sharon
>
> ps I don't think Big Brother ever even took a rest......!!
>
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Are all these e-mails really necessary. It clearly tells you at the bottom
of half the ones you sent how to unscribe.

Lynda
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