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This is one of those situations that is so double edged. The school
systems and even our government say they want more parent involvement
with the schools and the children. But heaven forbid you decide that
you, as the parents, know what is best for you own children when it
comes to their education and deciding to school them at home. As a
parent, we love our children more than a teacher ever will. As a
parent, we know the likes and dislikes of our children; are better
able to equip them for life, teach them in a manner that is
constructive instead of destructive to their self image. You go
girl! Teach your son in a way that will bring you two closer
together more than just "working with his teacher".

Molly

Julie Stauffer

<<what we do with Wyndam but I consider it unschooling>>

You have also repeatedly posted that you send Wyndam to your mom's for
school. That is pretty much of the issue. Do we really want to dredge all
of this up again?

Julie

rumpleteasermom

No I didn't say I send him for school. I said he goes for 'school'.
It's his choice to do this, and what they do over there is between
them but I know that my mom does what he wants because I'm the one
that gets to hear about how sick and tired she is of studying trains.

But my point in asking the question earlier was this: We give Wyndham
what Wyndham needs. He has as much control as he can handle right now
and we are working very hard to help him get to a place where he can
assume full control of his entire life. For now, he gets to pick
things like what to read. But we control certain other things that
were causing him great harm, like certain aspects of his diet and the
quantity of TV he watches.

So perhaps this is another hot button word problem. When I say he
goes to 'school' over there the quote marks signify that that is what
we call it, but not necessarily what it is. I suppose we could
just call it the Alan Parsons Project instead.

Bridget

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Julie Stauffer" <jnjstau@g...> wrote:
> <<what we do with Wyndam but I consider it unschooling>>
>
> You have also repeatedly posted that you send Wyndam to your mom's
for
> school. That is pretty much of the issue. Do we really want to
dredge all
> of this up again?
>
> Julie

Fetteroll

on 4/27/02 4:25 AM, rumpleteasermom at rumpleteasermom@... wrote:

> When I say he
> goes to 'school' over there the quote marks signify that that is what
> we call it, but not necessarily what it is. I suppose we could
> just call it the Alan Parsons Project instead.

But it wouldn't help people understand what you're trying to say any better.

I think it helps others understand us if we use words in the way they are
probably interpretting them rather than trying to get everyone to remember
our special uses of the words.

I can call a dog a cat and deal with the resulting confusing and keep
reminding people I use words differently than they do, or I could just use
the words they use to convey the meaning I want and call and dog a dog.

Joyce

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<< When I say he
goes to 'school' over there the quote marks signify that that is what
we call it, but not necessarily what it is. I suppose we could
just call it the Alan Parsons Project instead. >>

You could, but it wouldn't be accurate.

Words do have limits.

If words are treated as unimportant, thoughts can't be very clear.

Sandra

rumpleteasermom

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Fetteroll <fetteroll@e...> wrote:
> on 4/27/02 4:25 AM, rumpleteasermom at rumpleteasermom@j... wrote:
>
> > When I say he
> > goes to 'school' over there the quote marks signify that that is
what
> > we call it, but not necessarily what it is. I suppose we could
> > just call it the Alan Parsons Project instead.
>
> But it wouldn't help people understand what you're trying to say any
better.
>
> I think it helps others understand us if we use words in the way
they are
> probably interpretting them rather than trying to get everyone to
remember
> our special uses of the words.


Well, that was the reason for my post. It never occurred to me that
school and 'school' (in the context I was using it) would not be
considered different. Mostly that is because many of the people I
know use the quote mark hand gesture to give connotations like that.
Until yesterday, I truly did not recognize that word choice as a
problem. I knew I had explained what goes on over there before so I
figured it was understood. Sorry for the confusion.

Bridget

Fetteroll

on 4/28/02 8:31 AM, rumpleteasermom at rumpleteasermom@... wrote:

> I knew I had explained what goes on over there before so I
> figured it was understood. Sorry for the confusion.

It's probably helpful to realize that maybe a dozen new people join the list
each week. So if we redefine a standard everyday word and want everyone to
know that when we use that word we're using our own definition not the
standard definition, we will need to redefined it every week and remind
people of our special definition or new people (and the old people who have
forgotten or don't notice who a post is from) will assume we're using the
standard definition.

> Mostly that is because many of the people I
> know use the quote mark hand gesture to give connotations like that.

My video must be disabled. I never saw the hand guesture ;-)

Personally I find that since all we've got is a written medium to convey our
thoughts, the more I stick to denotations rather than connotations the less
backing up and explaining I have to do.

Joyce