Wendy Silver

I just wanted to correct my earlier typos!

I am not a QUILTER, but I am enjoying the posts, I find it inspiring to
hear how others are inspired. It only seems natural that an endless amount
of interests show up on this site. If you quilting enthusiasts would not
have shared, I would not have thought about quilting; the beauty, the art,
the comfort, the people that I have known who are or were QUILTERS.

Laura Yolo

The short version of my situation is that my dd's, 6th
and 8th grade, are attending public school due to the
custody agreement I have with my ex-husband. Dh and I
have chosen to homeschool/unschool our 9yo and 16mo
ds's. That choice lets you know my basic philosophy on
education. My dilemma is this: dd Ryan, 6th grade, is
an exceptionally bright person and very social. This
means she is not "performing" well in school. I just
got a phone call from one of her teachers(very nice
lady, by the way) letting me know that she only has a
29% in civics and a 41% in writers workshop because
she hasn't been turning in her assignments. This is
the norm for Ryan, she loses things or forgets to turn
them in, or doesn't feel like doing them. The funny
thing is these are two of her favorite classes.
Anyway, I guess my question is how do I help Ryan
"succeed" in public school when I don't agree with the
system, and homschooling is not an option? I should
also mention that as far as public schools go, this is
the best our district has to offer, and I know her
teachers quite well. Any help would be much
appreciated, thanks!:-)

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Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
Noah 3/9/92
Aidan 1/24/00

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> Anyway, I guess my question is how do I help Ryan
> "succeed" in public school when I don't agree with the
> system, and homschooling is not an option? I should
> also mention that as far as public schools go, this is
> the best our district has to offer, and I know her
> teachers quite well. Any help would be much
> appreciated, thanks!:-)

I would probably not help school be successful. I would help Ryan keep a
postitive self-image and keep the lines of communication open with her. I
would want to know what SHE wanted, good grades or just to slide by. Does
she want to have failing grades so she can homeschool? Frankly, at this
level, who cares what her report card says, as long as she's whole and
healthy and happy?

Laura Yolo

--- LisaBugg <LisaBugg@...> wrote:
> I would probably not help school be successful. I
> would help Ryan keep a
> postitive self-image and keep the lines of
> communication open with her. I
> would want to know what SHE wanted, good grades or
> just to slide by.

Thanks for this advice. Even though this is pretty
much how I feel, I still tend to buckle under the peer
presure of "grades" and "performance". I'm pretty sure
her answer would be just slide by.

> Does
> she want to have failing grades so she can
> homeschool?

I think on some level this is true. I also think
relationships are much more important to her than
tasks. She has lots of friends and enjoys the classes
but could care less about paperwork, except writing
assignments when they turn her on.

>Frankly, at this
> level, who cares what her report card says, as long
> as she's whole and
> healthy and happy?

Unfortunatly my ex-husband. But he lives far away and
it shouldn't take much effort to not mention her
grades to him:-) Thanks for the feed back:-)


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Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
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Aidan 1/24/00

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I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a divorced father whose kids
are undergoing great educational change as of late) - does it LITERALLY say
in your custody agreement that the children have to go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
what if you wanted a private school - is that out? What if you found a
charter homeschool (still considered a public school)?

That said - I totally agree with what someone else said about deciding what
her priorities are. Maybe you can talk to her about her future. What are her
goals? How does she need to live now to meet her future goals? Do her goals
include college? If so, what type? Community? University? Ivy League? I know
a lot of adults who really regret "slacking off" in highschool because it
made attending their first choice college impossible. Teens can't usually
plan for their futures this far in advanced to make the connection that
slacking off in highschool means missing out on the college experience of
your choice. Or at least not until it's too late. Maybe she has NO desire to
go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what her report card says.
The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess where a person is at so
they can get into college. Or graduate.

Another option - how old is she? Can she take her GED and get out early?
This is something I (a straight-A student) wanted more than anything. I
HATED school, it was holding me back from life! In my area only criminals
and pregnant girls took the GED so I chickened out but I *did* graduate a
semester early (in Jan instead of June) and got so much slack for that but
have never regretted it. It did not hinder me getting into college. It freed
me to learn what *I* wanted sooner rather then later.

Of course, if she likes the social aspect then she might not willingly take
(and pass) the GED or care to graduate early (and miss out on prom and other
senior "rites" - something I REALLY did not regret).

Nicki

Diana Tashjian

I know this may sound kind of dumb, but why does she need to "succeed" in public school? Is
she supposed to get A's? Does she need to please her Dad? What does "succeed" mean here?

Sorry if this sounds blunt but I'm trying to think how I would be if for some reason my son
was forced to go to ps. I think ( and, of course, I could be completely wrong!), that I
would still try to help my son figure out what he wants to do with it, what his goals are,
what he wants to get out of it, how he can cope with ps and still do/be what he wants, etc.
Maybe it's not possible...

Diana Tashjian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Yolo" <ljyolo@...>
> The short version of my situation is that my dd's, 6th
> and 8th grade, are attending public school due to the
> custody agreement I have with my ex-husband. Dh and I
> have chosen to homeschool/unschool our 9yo and 16mo
> ds's. That choice lets you know my basic philosophy on
> education. My dilemma is this: dd Ryan, 6th grade, is
> an exceptionally bright person and very social. This
> means she is not "performing" well in school. I just
> got a phone call from one of her teachers(very nice
> lady, by the way) letting me know that she only has a
> 29% in civics and a 41% in writers workshop because
> she hasn't been turning in her assignments. This is
> the norm for Ryan, she loses things or forgets to turn
> them in, or doesn't feel like doing them. The funny
> thing is these are two of her favorite classes.
> Anyway, I guess my question is how do I help Ryan
> "succeed" in public school when I don't agree with the
> system, and homschooling is not an option? I should
> also mention that as far as public schools go, this is
> the best our district has to offer, and I know her
> teachers quite well. Any help would be much
> appreciated, thanks!:-)
>
> =====
> Laura, blessed to be the mommy of
> Jenny 11/6/85
> Shaw 5/22/87
> Ryan 7/9/89
> Noah 3/9/92
> Aidan 1/24/00

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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Nicki Clark" <nicki@d...> wrote:
> Another option - how old is she? Can she take her GED and get out
early?
> This is something I (a straight-A student) wanted more than
anything. I
> HATED school, it was holding me back from life!


Another option is just to get out early. In my Junior year, I worked
out an agreement with the University of Oregon to admit me without my
high school diploma OR a GED. I took the SAT tests a year early, and
on the strength of my SAT scores I got in. With the help of a good
guidance counselor in my high school, I arranged with my high school
to get high school credits for my college classes and so I graduated
high school after my first year of college, going through graduation
with my regular class. I still remember the discussion I had with my
high school principle when the counselor and I presented my plan to
him. He was very concerned about me missing out on "your senior year,
the best year of your life". Bwahahahahahahaha
Interestingly enough, I just found some really bad poetry I wrote
during that last semester of public school, including the following
(pithy, but poignant) segment:

See the happy teens
going to their school
see them go to classes that
turn them into mindless fools
see them, aren't the happy
they wouldn't want to die
maybe they can tell you
why the suicide rate's so high


If the principle only knew! I was sooooo happy to escape. I guess an
unschooler was born... I found out later that the only reason he
wanted me to stay is that I was supposed to be a National Merit
Scholar, but I wouldn't qualify if I didn't stay in *his* school. I
was going to make his statistics look worse, so he didn't want me to
go. Bleh.

On another track, my DH was basically failing school and also hated
it. He left about the same time I did, but "dropped out". Then
someone convinced him to go through a local community college and he
took classes there and then got his GED. That's another route to
take. He enjoyed classes 100% more when he got to choose them.

Just some options...

Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) "A bee is pollinating my eye"
and Asa (10/5/99) "Asa eat buggy"
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Sharon Rudd

--- Laura Yolo <ljyolo@...> wrote:
> attending public school due to
> the
> custody agreement I have with my ex-husband

Dear Laura
.......there may be a clue in that statement. It may
not actually be a school issue at all.
OR it could even be hormones kicking in......? Is it
vacation time where you are? Some progress in
communication might be achievable now. Is there an
"alternative" school in your area or Grassroots type
Free Schools? Maybe an "umbrella" school would meet
the custody agreement? Perhaps Ryan has some ideas of
her own that could help.
You are in my prayers
Sharon



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--- Nicki Clark <nicki@...> wrote:
> I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a
> divorced father whose kids
> are undergoing great educational change as of late)
> - does it LITERALLY say
> in your custody agreement that the children have to
> go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?

It says they must be enrolled in a public or certified
private school.

> Maybe she has NO desire to
> go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what
> her report card says.
> The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess
> where a person is at so
> they can get into college. Or graduate.

She wants to be a wife, mother, and musician. She
doesn't really talk about college.

> Another option - how old is she? Can she take her
> GED and get out early?

She's only 11.5yo and in the 6th grade, so the GED is
not an option at this point:-) Thanks for the feedback!

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Jenny 11/6/85
Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
Noah 3/9/92
Aidan 1/24/00

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Clonlara is a private school. Check out their site www.clonlara.org . ~Rue

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Yolo [mailto:ljyolo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] I need some advice


--- Nicki Clark <nicki@...> wrote:
> I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a
> divorced father whose kids
> are undergoing great educational change as of late)
> - does it LITERALLY say
> in your custody agreement that the children have to
> go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?

It says they must be enrolled in a public or certified
private school.

> Maybe she has NO desire to
> go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what
> her report card says.
> The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess
> where a person is at so
> they can get into college. Or graduate.

She wants to be a wife, mother, and musician. She
doesn't really talk about college.

> Another option - how old is she? Can she take her
> GED and get out early?

She's only 11.5yo and in the 6th grade, so the GED is
not an option at this point:-) Thanks for the feedback!

=====
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Jenny 11/6/85
Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
Noah 3/9/92
Aidan 1/24/00

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Did you know you can be officially enrolled in a private school and
still homeschool? For instance - my dd is enrolled, officially, in a
private distance learning school called Laurel Springs. We're in NC
and Laurel is in CA. They supply the materials and a teacher (more of
a helper who suggests and keeps the records) but we still can veto
curriculum we don't like and do all the 'teaching' at home. I think
this is what's called being under an 'umbrella school'. There are
many of these schools with options of being totally online or not.

Wouldn't that fulfill the custody requirement yet still be able to
have the kids at home? Just thought that this could be
your 'loophole' around that agreement problem.

Jane



--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Laura Yolo <ljyolo@y...> wrote:
> --- Nicki Clark <nicki@d...> wrote:
> > I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a
> > divorced father whose kids
> > are undergoing great educational change as of late)
> > - does it LITERALLY say
> > in your custody agreement that the children have to
> > go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
>
> It says they must be enrolled in a public or certified
> private school.
>
> > Maybe she has NO desire to
> > go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what
> > her report card says.
> > The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess
> > where a person is at so
> > they can get into college. Or graduate.
>
> She wants to be a wife, mother, and musician. She
> doesn't really talk about college.
>
> > Another option - how old is she? Can she take her
> > GED and get out early?
>
> She's only 11.5yo and in the 6th grade, so the GED is
> not an option at this point:-) Thanks for the feedback!
>
> =====
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> Jenny 11/6/85
> Shaw 5/22/87
> Ryan 7/9/89
> Noah 3/9/92
> Aidan 1/24/00
>
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Right. Clonlara School is one of many. Laurel Springs is more
flexible and will suit the curriculum to the child's learning style.
Other schools include Oak Meadow, Trent and Abbington Hill - just to
name a few. Go to a search engine and plug in 'distance learning
schools' and you'll get a bunch of websites to explore.

Jane




--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Jon and Rue Kream" <skreams@m...>
wrote:
> Clonlara is a private school. Check out their site
www.clonlara.org . ~Rue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Yolo [mailto:ljyolo@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] I need some advice
>
>
> --- Nicki Clark <nicki@d...> wrote:
> > I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a
> > divorced father whose kids
> > are undergoing great educational change as of late)
> > - does it LITERALLY say
> > in your custody agreement that the children have to
> > go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
>
> It says they must be enrolled in a public or certified
> private school.
>
> > Maybe she has NO desire to
> > go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what
> > her report card says.
> > The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess
> > where a person is at so
> > they can get into college. Or graduate.
>
> She wants to be a wife, mother, and musician. She
> doesn't really talk about college.
>
> > Another option - how old is she? Can she take her
> > GED and get out early?
>
> She's only 11.5yo and in the 6th grade, so the GED is
> not an option at this point:-) Thanks for the feedback!
>
> =====
> Laura, blessed to be the mommy of
> Jenny 11/6/85
> Shaw 5/22/87
> Ryan 7/9/89
> Noah 3/9/92
> Aidan 1/24/00
>
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In what way do you find Laurel Springs more flexible? We use Clonlara.
They basically just handle the school system for us and leave us alone. We
are not required to use a curriculum. If there is someone even more hands
off (although I'm not sure how that would be possible) I'd be interested in
knowing more about them. Thanks ~Rue

-----Original Message-----
From: jforgey@... [mailto:jforgey@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: I need some advice


Right. Clonlara School is one of many. Laurel Springs is more
flexible and will suit the curriculum to the child's learning style.
Other schools include Oak Meadow, Trent and Abbington Hill - just to
name a few. Go to a search engine and plug in 'distance learning
schools' and you'll get a bunch of websites to explore.

Jane




--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Jon and Rue Kream" <skreams@m...>
wrote:
> Clonlara is a private school. Check out their site
www.clonlara.org . ~Rue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Yolo [mailto:ljyolo@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] I need some advice
>
>
> --- Nicki Clark <nicki@d...> wrote:
> > I am curious (as a divorced mother married to a
> > divorced father whose kids
> > are undergoing great educational change as of late)
> > - does it LITERALLY say
> > in your custody agreement that the children have to
> > go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
>
> It says they must be enrolled in a public or certified
> private school.
>
> > Maybe she has NO desire to
> > go to college at all. In which case, who CARES what
> > her report card says.
> > The ONLY point of those report cards is to assess
> > where a person is at so
> > they can get into college. Or graduate.
>
> She wants to be a wife, mother, and musician. She
> doesn't really talk about college.
>
> > Another option - how old is she? Can she take her
> > GED and get out early?
>
> She's only 11.5yo and in the 6th grade, so the GED is
> not an option at this point:-) Thanks for the feedback!
>
> =====
> Laura, blessed to be the mommy of
> Jenny 11/6/85
> Shaw 5/22/87
> Ryan 7/9/89
> Noah 3/9/92
> Aidan 1/24/00
>
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--- Nicki Clark <nicki@...> wrote:
In
> my area only criminals
> and pregnant girls took the GED > Nicki



What a lot of adventures are missed, educational and
otherwise, by worrying about false images.....such as
only bad guys do this or criminals take GEDs. or that
pregnant girls necessarily have some sort of
relationship with criminals. That is something parents
who are really supportive of their children can help
with. I think that FEAR is the greatest inhibitor.

Sharon

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-- Diana Tashjian <diana@...> wrote:
> I know this may sound kind of dumb, but why does she
> need to "succeed" in public school? Is
> she supposed to get A's? Does she need to please her
> Dad? What does "succeed" mean here?

I guess what I mean by "succeed" is help her do well
enough to keep the teachers off her back. If she
doesn't turn in enough assignments, the teachers get
on her case. I sure don't care if she gets A's or
pleases her father.

> Sorry if this sounds blunt but I'm trying to think
> how I would be if for some reason my son
> was forced to go to ps.

Don't apologize, bluntness doesn't offend me:-) And I
appreciate that you took the time to reply!

>I think ( and, of course, I
> could be completely wrong!), that I
> would still try to help my son figure out what he
> wants to do with it, what his goals are,
> what he wants to get out of it, how he can cope with
> ps and still do/be what he wants, etc.

This is what I'm trying to do, but last night after
the teacher called, I really felt the need for
advice/support. I had a nice talk with Ryan this
morning before school about what her goals are. They
are in this order, be in a Symphony Orchestra, and be
a wife and mom. She asked me "do I have to go to
college to do any of those?":-) We also talked about
turning in enough work to keep the teachers off her
back.

> Maybe it's not possible...

I sure hope it is, we have another 5-6 years of this!



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That is typical ps teacher and ps adminstrator propaganda that is put out
there to keep kids in schools. If only a certain "undesirable" segment of
the population does something then, in their minds, they can keep the folks
who don't want to be part of "that element" on the straight and narrow by
convincing folks that those are the only people who do that. Define that as
keeping money in the ps pocket!

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
>
> --- Nicki Clark <nicki@...> wrote:
> In
> > my area only criminals
> > and pregnant girls took the GED > Nicki

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Sorry...I realized when I was finished I had more to ay than I
thought................When I took the GED test in 1988 , I was 17..not
pregnant(..yet) and definitely not a criminal..just wanted to see if I was
ready to go to College because I hated everything about high school. I
received a state diploma after passing and it has never hindered any future
employment or education because here in Maryland they issue you a high school
diploma when you pass the test.
Both of my parents received their GED / diploma in Michigan and I don't think
it was the same there (but this was also in the 60's). But the piece of paper
meant nothing to them and neither had kept it. My father is a warehouse
worker but my mother got a good government job and makes an insanely high
salary with her GED. My original plan after having my children was that they
receive diplomas from their school ( as in ..not take the easy way out..the
test) and go on to college if they chose. After going out in the world and
meeting so many people with varied degrees of education, I saw little
difference between the "formally - schooled " and "self-taught". I want my
children to be happy and feel successful no matter what they do and from my
experience neither a diploma or degree actually ensures that.

Regina


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In a message dated 5/29/01 10:51:18 AM, ljyolo@... writes:

<< They
are in this order, be in a Symphony Orchestra, and be
a wife and mom. >>

Is there a youth symphony orchestra there? (There's one in Albuquerque.) A
private teacher who might get ensembles together?

MAYBE if she's good an adult orchestra would let her sit in for rehearsals,
at least, and maybe (depends on their policies) for performances. It
wouldn't hurt to ask. She might find a mentor that way, and she might get in
on some smaller performance stuff.

Did you say what instrument(s) she plays? (If so, sorry I missed it.)
Where are you?

Sandra

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In a message dated 5/29/01 12:54:06 PM, MDMomatHm@... writes:

<< I saw little
difference between the "formally - schooled " and "self-taught" >>

The formally schooled often have a huge student loan to pay off!!! <g>

Laura Yolo

--- jforgey@... wrote:
> Wouldn't that fulfill the custody requirement yet
> still be able to
> have the kids at home? Just thought that this could
> be
> your 'loophole' around that agreement problem.
>
Yes it would, and we have looked into that. But we
can't afford the tuition. Also we can't afford private
violin lessons, and violin is important enough to her,
to put up with the rest of ps.

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Aidan 1/24/00

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--- SandraDodd@... wrote:
> Is there a youth symphony orchestra there? (There's
> one in Albuquerque.) A
> private teacher who might get ensembles together?

Yes, she can audition for them this fall. Her ps
orchestra teacher also has his own swing band, and
contacts in the musical community here. He is very
supportive and is helping her get connected.

> She might find a mentor that
> way, and she might get in
> on some smaller performance stuff.

We're working on the mentor part.

> Did you say what instrument(s) she plays? (If so,
> sorry I missed it.)
> Where are you?

The violin, she's been in love with it since she was
3, but only started playing two years ago. She has
taught herself to play the piano by ear. She just
decided his weekend that she wants to learn the
clarinet as well. We're in Yakima, WA:-)


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Laura, blessed to be the mommy of
Jenny 11/6/85
Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
Noah 3/9/92
Aidan 1/24/00

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-- Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...> wrote:
> Dear Laura
> .......there may be a clue in that statement. It may
> not actually be a school issue at all.
> OR it could even be hormones kicking in......?

Yes on both counts! She thinks school is stupid and a
waste of her time, but feels like she needs to put up
with it for her orchestra time.

> Perhaps Ryan has some ideas
> of
> her own that could help.

We only have 3 weeks of school left! And Ryan's idea
this morning was to grin and bear it and turn in just
enough work to apease the teachers. Both of those will
be challenging for her, my non-conformist:-)

> You are in my prayers

Thank you! We'll take all the prayers we can get!

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Laura, blessed to be the mommy of
Jenny 11/6/85
Shaw 5/22/87
Ryan 7/9/89
Noah 3/9/92
Aidan 1/24/00

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--- Laura Yolo <ljyolo@...> wrote:
She thinks school is stupid and
> a
> waste of her time, but feels like she needs to put
> up
> with it for her orchestra time.
>

Dear Laura
Is there a community orchestra anywhere nearby? I
played with the Ocala Symphony (Florida) when I was
11. It was a wonderful experience. The older, more
experienced musicians just seemed to carry me along!
It didn't require an audition that I remember. And
nobody took time to rempremand me for anything (like
in a school situation). And what applause does for
the ego! Even 11 year old who was all teeth, elbows,
knees, and feet.

Sharon

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--- SandraDodd@... wrote:
> Is there a youth symphony orchestra there
> Sandra
>
I wrote a post with a similar suggestion, then read
Sandra's post....good idea Sandra.....and I'm gonna be
redundant and post anyway.

Is there a community orchestra there? I played with
the Ocala Symphony (Florida) when I was 11. What a
wonderful experience it was. The older, more
experienced musicians just seemed to carry me along!
There was no audition that I recall (this was 40 years
ago) and no one bothered to reprimand me for anything
(as would occur in a school situation). And what
applause does for the ego, even an eleven year old
that is all teeth, elbows, knees, and feet! I was the
only youngster. It didn't seem to bother anyone,
though, except my mother, who drove me to rehersals.
She had other things she wanted to do.

Good Luck
Sharon

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--- Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...> wrote:
I wrote a post with a similar

OH NO!! I wrote these two posts, then they disappeared
into cyber space and I thought never to heard from
again..and here they are!?????? Together. Dunno how
this happened. I'm SO SORRY
Sharon

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